Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Val89]

Correct.

[skitter30]

I'm not sure what your pointis then, i feel like that scenario is not super likely?

[Val89]

Granted I've had a very Merry Christmas, and I may feel different with a hangover, but it's seems about as plausible as unwnd, having decided to IV was townie enough to deserve protection, and having gotten a save from his pov, suddenly deciding the only read he felt different on from D1 was that IV wasn't as townie after all.

Also add in the fact that MB wasn't

only

softing doc, and the softs that Ydra was putting out prior to that point were pointing to protective enough for me to think she was about to claim doc:

I do also happen to think Ydrasse has been dropping heavy hints she knows why there was no kill. It's why I asked your opinion on her since you didn't appear to be accounting for it...

The reaction from her is odd, I'll grant you that.

...and it's something I think worth looking at.

In before someone is all "look, scum!val is trying to open the PoE", but fuck it, Mathblade has been trying to railroad this town since rep-in, and something isn't right here.

[skitter30]

So scum-math reps in
Claims doc which his pred wasnt and his partner was angling towards
Clears a townie
And gets into a massive fight with his partner
And flips him
?

[Freedom]

It's also possible that mafia are informed of the other thing I'm informed and haven't said.

I guess this could be true.

[Val89]

So scum-math reps in
Claims doc which his pred wasnt and his partner was angling towards
Clears a townie
And gets into a massive fight with his partner
And flips him
?

Yes.

And rides the "conftown" to scum victory, gg. Tea, biscuits, probably a scum nommie.

Heck, you could do that and say stuff like "We always lim Ydra before skitter" knowing there is a double dose of towncred on the way if we go for it, and if not, push for the lim of the real protective while saying "I could hammer a VT I scumread" (Ie: everyone else) and nobody would bat an eye, right?

I agree it's a bit out-there, but I've made out-there plays: Pooky-Ydra have made out-there plays in the past. Your turn: Why do you think unwnd though the conftown he just saved was the only read he was questioning?

[skitter30]

Because there was no reason to think iv was conftown/no way to know if unwnd was the source of the nk

Now that there's no other claims that might explain it
It looks more likely
But i still wouldnt call it conftown

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[MathBlade]

@Val I am not railroading. I literally said who my faves are and who I am willing to hammer.

Skitter’s theory also requires me to no kill before I replace into the game?

So pretty sure that’s not it.

[MathBlade]

Granted I've had a very Merry Christmas, and I may feel different with a hangover, but it's seems about as plausible as unwnd, having decided to IV was townie enough to deserve protection, and having gotten a save from his pov, suddenly deciding the only read he felt different on from D1 was that IV wasn't as townie after all.

Also add in the fact that MB wasn't

only

softing doc, and the softs that Ydra was putting out prior to that point were pointing to protective enough for me to think she was about to claim doc:

I do also happen to think Ydrasse has been dropping heavy hints she knows why there was no kill. It's why I asked your opinion on her since you didn't appear to be accounting for it...

The reaction from her is odd, I'll grant you that.

...and it's something I think worth looking at.

In before someone is all "look, scum!val is trying to open the PoE", but fuck it, Mathblade has been trying to railroad this town since rep-in, and something isn't right here.

I was literally trolling to have the open memorable lmao.

I appreciate sus cover but I should flip before elo and explain why I sus FB so hard.

[Herta]

This is fine.

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Ydrasse]

this is the goofiest choice but i'd rather be limmed while we have the numbers
i'm going to be >:( about it though

also i think if you suspect shenanigans, uh, the fact that we have two roles claiming with their whole chests to block kills... while we have like, nothing but no kills, is uh. well. it's a choice lol. especially when the main (?) people suggesting it currently/pushing for it are the people who are either (1) in the vt pool that was being bandied about to be limmed today or (2) pr role able to do said nk shenanigans/"able to do them"

[Ydrasse]

also i think that saying it's incriminating that i once played a game where i nked is like the absolute least charitable way to like. talk about things.
i have done it before. no one else is capable.
it's shady

[innocentvillager]

idk if you're talking about me there but I keep bringing it up because Pooky (mostly) orchestrated it in that game and Pooky we know is scum this game. I may have insinuated a while ago that I think you and Pooky just wanted to relive that once but that was just a random narrative lolshot - the main indicative thing just being really that we know Pooky is scum.

[innocentvillager]

If it wasn't clear, based on that, I don't think that the nk incriminates you more than anyone else.

So who be shady then? Seems like you're talking about specific pipo there.If it was me, hopefully that clarifies my stance 4u.

[innocentvillager]

especially when the main (?) people suggesting it currently/pushing for it are the people who are either (1) in the vt pool that was being bandied about to be limmed today or (2) pr role able to do said nk shenanigans/"able to do them"

This looks like word salad to me can you be more specific (maybe put some names if that helps)

[skitter30]

ydra can be scum but i think no-killing n1 is wild
but if that happened math has to be scum with her here

[Ydrasse]

especially when the main (?) people suggesting it currently/pushing for it are the people who are either (1) in the vt pool that was being bandied about to be limmed today or (2) pr role able to do said nk shenanigans/"able to do them"

This looks like word salad to me can you be more specific (maybe put some names if that helps)

val89, and herta, being vts that seem okay with me dying specifically.
fb voting alongside them.

like i guess i have the perspective of like "well im going down but these people seem really happy to push me over first"

[Ydrasse]

the difference between this game and that was that i had a role that was from the start publicly known by everyone lol
like everyone knew mafia doctor, the claim and no kill was necessary to try and establish myself there was an actual reason
here what would be the move. "yeah lets do something weird because we can" is silly

and i also literally do this every game these days lol
it's fun to tease like "oooh im important you cant do anything about it" and then it's true and im like hehe >:3c

and this is what ydr said about that game where she was scum with spookybear

Ok that is actually wild

If scum actually nokilled it would indeed incriminate ydra there

+ i would be less confident in math and you

But, like, there would have to be a reason to no kill, like what would they be getting out of it? Trying to conf math's slot is maybe the only thing i can think of

what i gathered from this is that it's ... incriminating that i did something in a different game once with different circumstances lol
like i have a capacity to do it therefore it happened here but that doesn't seem like something anchored to /this/ game

[MathBlade]

ydra can be scum but i think no-killing n1 is wild
but if that happened math has to be scum with her here

I doubt ydrasse is scum. Why inno you when it’s a free miselim (if you’re town)?

She could have picked anyone else if lying.

I am back to Fire + Skitter and Fire blocked Ydrasse I think

[skitter30]

that doesn't even make sense

[innocentvillager]

And actually i'm not sure it really incriminates ydra, i don't really see any motivation for her being part of this

mmmmmmMMMMMMMMMmmmmmMMMMmmmm
sHe also said this after

[skitter30]

?

[Ydrasse]

i think the fact that it was said to begin with is -_-
like i guess i dont get where the original thought could even come from because it doesn't make sense to me

[Ydrasse]

idk if im being crabby or not though like i want to be the brave soldier following on my sword to save everyone here but it makes me so annoyed to do LOL