Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[MegAzumarill]

Dawn 4 Begins!


VC 8.0.0


Not Voting (7) Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Magician, Firebringer, Past Present Future, T-Bone, Cat Scratch Fever, Enchant

With 7 alive it takes 4 to eliminate
Deadline (expired on 2023-01-11 13:19:33)

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Well.

I don't think CSF is scum at all. This is the read I am least willing to budge on.

I don't think Magician is scum at all. He particularly doesn't make sense as Solar, with how Junko handled the Porkens wagon. I thought there was a reason he didn't make sense as Lunar as well but I've forgotten it, I'll look back at that later. But like Scarf and Junko were both towny town town.

I don't think T-Bone is scum at all. He's very very unlikely Solar with how he handled the Porkens wagon. I don't exactly have reason to clear him as Lunar, but I believe he's playing this from a town mindset.

Enchant and PPF both FEEL towny to me. At least one of those has gotta be wrong, and I'm not confident enough on either of these reads to clear them at this stage. Bella thinks PPF is scummy and kind of always has since D1? We had a chat where she kinda said she saw the logical reasons I think the slot isn't playing that sensibly from a scum perspective, but that hasn't stopped her from getting bad vibes from them all game. And I find that to be valid and worth considering. Whereas Enchant is in that technically-possible-but-doesn't-feel-like-scum realm that he's probably never gonna leave.

I don't think Firebringer's very towny at all and if we're aiming for scum indiscriminately then I think this would be our best bet.

[Enchant]

We are horrible wrong about something

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I'm of the opinion that the Porkens wagon reactions are the biggest key to finding Solar, and Dawn 1 is where Lunar is going to be found.

[T-Bone]

Very surprised by the flip. That's unfortunate from a get rid of Lunar perspective. I'm about 50/50 on whether PPF is the last Solar or if I have an incorrect town read.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

VOTE: Firebringer
I want to flip here today and I suspect he'll flip Lunar.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

The idea just came to my mind that 3 Solar 4 Lunar is a possibility here
I'm not amazing at balance but 3 with a NK every other night vs 4 with no NK seems potentially runnable?

[Firebringer]

im a sheep for enchant.

[Magician]

I don't think Magician is scum at all. He particularly doesn't make sense as Solar, with how Junko handled the Porkens wagon. I thought there was a reason he didn't make sense as Lunar as well but I've forgotten it, I'll look back at that later. But like Scarf and Junko were both towny town town.

I love being cleared for no good reason.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

That wasn't intended to be justification for your slot being town, just like none of the other parts are justification either

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I don't have any info from my role

I remember thinking save the dragons (ydrasse) and frozen angel (firebringer) were probably unaligned because they had that heated convo about dragons not wanting to learn mech. I still think fb is solar. Really not sure who the last lunar is

That said, i think we can lim either scum today. There's been 4 Nights, assuming worst case scenario and lunar arsonists - 4 douses on people still alive should give us 3p if they activate tonight. It's more important to hit scum of either faction i think. Can someone check that?

[T-Bone]

I think you're right.

[Past Present Future]

I don't have any info from my role

I remember thinking save the dragons (ydrasse) and frozen angel (firebringer) were probably unaligned because they had that heated convo about dragons not wanting to learn mech. I still think fb is solar. Really not sure who the last lunar is

That said, i think we can lim either scum today. There's been 4 Nights, assuming worst case scenario and lunar arsonists - 4 douses on people still alive should give us 3p if they activate tonight. It's more important to hit scum of either faction i think. Can someone check that?

I was thinking the same thing especially since STD replaced out soon afterwards.

[Past Present Future]

VOTE: Dingle

Radical and Dingle both pushed my slot early day 1 with Mastina.
Mastina was Town
Radical was Solar
Dingle can be Lunar

I’m very surprised Prof flipped town but there’s was a VC where he was at E-2 with MMR on the wagon. @Dangle why do you think Prof thinks it’s you? I’m worried since I wrongly tr you last time and Prof caught you?

[Past Present Future]

VC 1.0.15




professotic (7) Mastina, Bunnyonce, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Past Present Future, Scarfmanship, Yume, MMR [E-2]

Mastina (4) Frozen Angel, T-Bone, Radical Rat, Maid Cafe,

scarfmanship (1)furtiveglance,
Frozen Angel (1) Radja,
Bunnyonce (1) professotic,


Not Voting (3) Enchant, Ydrasse, Mathblade,


With 17 Alive it takes 9 to Eliminate
Deadline: (expired on 2022-11-01 13:00:17)

Moral of the story is I guess, bad to ignore VCA.

[Past Present Future]

like you can make up shit all you want but you can't tell me, reading post 93, that she was talking about mastina's read being alarming alarming in different ways. that's not how it's worded. if she made a mistake writing it, she messed up, it has nothing to do with my awareness of the game and im not going to sit here and get insulted by someone who said something they didn't mean and should own that

This definitely doesn’t sound like scum theatre. Fire and Ydrasse not aligned.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I remember thinking save the dragons (ydrasse) and frozen angel (firebringer) were probably unaligned because they had that heated convo about dragons not wanting to learn mech. I still think fb is solar. Really not sure who the last lunar is

This was my reason for thinking Firebringer couldn't be Lunar

I'm kinda running out of options though. And I already thought STD didn't make sense as scum period for that interaction, and was wrong. That makes me unwilling to rule out Firebringer as Lunar from the interaction. I don't think anything FA did makes the slot unlikely Lunar. I don’t think anything Firebringer has done makes him unlikely Lunar. It's just the STD interaction that I've already read incorrectly once, and so with limited options for Lunar, I feel as though that could be the weak point in my thinking at the moment.

Regardless I think Firebringer is likely to flip any flavor of scum so it's not hugely relevant. But still!

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

VOTE: Dingle

Radical and Dingle both pushed my slot early day 1 with Mastina.
Mastina was Town
Radical was Solar
Dingle can be Lunar

I’m very surprised Prof flipped town but there’s was a VC where he was at E-2 with MMR on the wagon.

I'm not sure what you're trying to suggest with this comment. I've already discussed the fact that MMR had a prof push previously. It was originally why I thought Prof was unlikely Lunar.

@Dangle why do you think Prof thinks it’s you? I’m worried since I wrongly tr you last time and Prof caught you?

Prof openly admitted in this game that he starts with a 'hero solve' and then puts together evidence from there. I don't know why he decided we were scum. I don't have any confidence in Drapion's scumhunting ability. I don't think Drapion's scumread on Bella in Lost was based on much of substance either, despite being accurate. I explained as much to Bella at the start of this game, and she didn't see it until we got a little while into this game. Because in Lost she was scum who got caught by his PR, and in this game we're town and he incorrectly tunneled us all game.

It's also worth noting that like 80% of the content in this game has come from Klick, and Bella's a lot less active in this game than she was in that game. She's also town here.

[Firebringer]

plot twist: i am solar and all of u are recruited except for PPF.

[Past Present Future]

I'm probably overreacting.

Mastina is a slot I'd like to sort later. I think this is just what she does and if it's entirely random she's scum but if it makes some sense she's probably town. I am leaning toward the latter.

I don't think that you are overreacting.
138 definitely reads like shade, to me, coming from FA.
It's completely understandable and NAI to not understand the mech in a closed setup.
VOTE: FA
-Rubella

I think this looks like chainsawing. I will deny this if this turns out to be false but the way MMR jumped to STD’s defense the way that they did, does not look to me like Fire’s a buddy.

[Past Present Future]

she is purposefully refusing to engage with me to avoid giving more context for the logical case/reasoning I have for my vote on her and to not have to drop her fake confbiase

there is absolutely no other reason not to.

I'm not moving away from her until I find something even more promising or if I get something actually promising from her

I dunno.

Every other post isn’t Math scum and it’s content.

So she is delivering something readable and it isn’t the scum tunnel and quit she’s done in the past

Granted that content

might

be scum content

But it’s loads better than what was previously done

I think that this fits with my opinion of mastina right now.
Her content has improved and I think that this might be either town!mastina letting go or scum!mastina changing her play.
I'm leaning towards the former, though the main thing that I'm still a bit annoyed about is that we haven't seen the results of the FA meta research.
But I'm probably just impatient, given that if mastina was to do that, I'll probably feel more convinced of town!mastina.
But then, I can't read mastina and I have to admit this.
-Rubella

math posts feels genuine

this feels distancing

why people read MMR as town?

Another post that looks unaligned with MMR.

[Past Present Future]

don't give me this bullshit

fucking hell

the upside is i don't know if scum would make a post that disgusting so maybe i'm coming around to you being town

If I wanna be blunt I don't care what's your read about me at this point. Maybe later when it's more relevant I will respond to your concerns about what I have to say again.

I'm just not capable of sorting of people of your type and I don't mean that in an offensive way to you. It's a game and people play it with different calibers.

I just don't have my older days patience and energy to go in cicrlces about something so obvious when the other side is completely disconnected from it, nor I can read it in any ways alignment indicative so it just gives me a headache. so I prefer to move on and look on other angels like MMR weird jump on the case and the back track

So whatever

if you want to say we're different, that's fine. i play pretty differently from everyone on site and i can live with that.

if you want to insult me, i'm not going to be happy. Don't insult me.

im sorry. im not trying to make this uncomfortable or be mean or whatever, that's not me. so i'm sorry. gonna go away for a bit.

UNVOTE:

And then STD replaced out RIGHT AFTER THIS. Why would STD have replaced out if this was actually scum theatre? He was clearly tilted because FA caught him. Fire can only be town or Solar.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

don't give me this bullshit

fucking hell

These two posts are in response to professotic, not FA

I believe it's obvious that STD is legitimately angry with FA
I don't believe this disqualifies FA from being STD's partner

I don't personally feel confident sorting at all based on the STD interactions, because I already confidently read STD as town based on them and was wrong. So I'm looking for other evidence that suggests FA/Firebringer wouldn't be Lunar, and I'm not convinced there's anything else substantial to back that idea up.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

It's not a distinction that massively matters to me when I have confidence that Firebringer's a scum flip regardless of the flavor

[Past Present Future]

don't give me this bullshit

fucking hell

These two posts are in response to professotic, not FA

I believe it's obvious that STD is legitimately angry with FA
I don't believe this disqualifies FA from being STD's partner

I don't personally feel confident sorting at all based on the STD interactions, because I already confidently read STD as town based on them and was wrong. So I'm looking for other evidence that suggests FA/Firebringer wouldn't be Lunar, and I'm not convinced there's anything else substantial to back that idea up.

He replaced out because of it. In what world do you possibly get scum theatre from that?