Mini 2286: Legends of the Hidden Temple IV (Explorers Win!)

[Yume]

Very well, then you do the same and shove you 'mastina is scum' theory in the trash.

If your sole reason for reading someone as either alignment after 3 eliminations is meta, you are not acting in town interests and may as well still be in RVS.

Mastina is scum - because meta.

VS

Mastina is scum as she is inactive here, in a game where the 3 caught scum have been inactive I suspect she's also been demotivated and is attempting to stay under radar knowing she has someone who will defend her to a frankly ridiculous extreme without consideration of other options at all. You are defending someone who is just spewing information and speculation instead of actual read content.

She's also sick! That's why she's not around! You are basically scumreading her because she's inactive due to illness!

[Yume]

And don't say 'I am not' because you admitted you are.

[Haschel Cedricson]

The list of players eligible to be eliminated today consists of

Cephrir
Save The Dragons

Yume
mastina

mastina: (1) furtiveglance
Cephrir: (1) Yume
Save the Dragons:
Yume:

Not Voting: Aisa, mastina, Save The Dragons, Cephrir, Nancy Drew 39, Flea The Magician, Gamma Emerald

With 9 players in the temple, it takes 5 to eliminate.

[Yume]

i want a perfect game dear

Then vote Ceph.

[Yume]

I am leaving for the night. I need to destress and calm down.

[Cephrir]

i want a perfect game dear

(Also at this point we legit do have an autowin. Trust Nancy, trust Yume, and with me as town, we can lim literally everyone else as need be to brute force a win. Every name you add to the town list to trust, the easier the autowin is. But idk who those are since I haven't read the game, presumably there are people who have been hard-spewed-town by this flip; I'd need to actually read the game to know who those are.)

Here's something concrete. This post. This post is why I townread her. You said you played with her, Flea, so you should know that she makes this kinda post as town. If you don't, then either we have vastly different experience with her or you refuse to see it, in which case it's on you.

You're townreading her for having a plan where she herself survives to endgame, which is exactly what scum would need in this situation, and it flies in the face of everyone's reads but yours to think it's remotely realistic

[Flea The Magician]

(Also at this point we legit do have an autowin. Trust Nancy, trust Yume, and with me as town, we can lim literally everyone else as need be to brute force a win. Every name you add to the town list to trust, the easier the autowin is. But idk who those are since I haven't read the game, presumably there are people who have been hard-spewed-town by this flip; I'd need to actually read the game to know who those are.)

Here's something concrete. This post. This post is why I townread her. You said you played with her, Flea, so you should know that she makes this kinda post as town. If you don't, then either we have vastly different experience with her or you refuse to see it, in which case it's on you.

I've seen her pull this as scum as well.
Brute Force the win by being the de facto town leader and not letting anyone question her.
Mastina operates in confidence. Her language use is confident and as a leader. She lays a path and follows it.

I'm aware she's unwell, she's still in the game. Shes still posting - and she's posted some chonky posts which are literally information and speculation.

She's able to give elimination wagon breakdowns and identify who the people on them are.
She's capable of at least outlining her reads and why beyond mechanical information.
So why isn't she?

[Yume]

Yes, because she makes that kinda post as town in my experience! Prove me wrong! Show me games where she did so as scum!

Because she's sick! I'd like to see you do deep analysis when you're sick!

[Flea The Magician]

And don't say 'I am not' because you admitted you are.

Where?

[Flea The Magician]

Yes, because she makes that kinda post as town in my experience! Prove me wrong! Show me games where she did so as scum!

Because she's sick! I'd like to see you do deep analysis when you're sick!

You realise i've had about 9 months off mafia because of various shit happening?
And I regularly do. Usually tanked up on my medications and non-lucid because of it - weirdly enough because if I ain't well enough to do that, I don't play.

[furtiveglance]

(Also at this point we legit do have an autowin. Trust Nancy, trust Yume, and with me as town, we can lim literally everyone else as need be to brute force a win. Every name you add to the town list to trust, the easier the autowin is. But idk who those are since I haven't read the game, presumably there are people who have been hard-spewed-town by this flip; I'd need to actually read the game to know who those are.)

I didn't like this post because of how it put mastina herself among the towniest players, when that isn't my opinion.
Here's something concrete. This post. This post is why I townread her. You said you played with her, Flea, so you should know that she makes this kinda post as town. If you don't, then either we have vastly different experience with her or you refuse to see it, in which case it's on you.

[Yume]

Here:

Very well, then you do the same and shove you 'mastina is scum' theory in the trash.

If your sole reason for reading someone as either alignment after 3 eliminations is meta, you are not acting in town interests and may as well still be in RVS.

Mastina is scum - because meta.

VS

Mastina is scum as she is inactive here, in a game where the 3 caught scum have been inactive I suspect she's also been demotivated and is attempting to stay under radar knowing she has someone who will defend her to a frankly ridiculous extreme without consideration of other options at all. You are defending someone who is just spewing information and speculation instead of actual read content.

[Yume]

She is inactive due to illness. You're scumreading her for being inactive. Therefore, you're scumreading her for being ill.

[Flea The Magician]

That's me saying shes inactive, and likely demotivated because of the perfect game so far. Honestly if I had someone like you being so willing to throw themselves in the way, so convinced of my alignment, I'd just lurk it out myself tbh.

[furtiveglance]

(Also at this point we legit do have an autowin. Trust Nancy, trust Yume, and with me as town, we can lim literally everyone else as need be to brute force a win. Every name you add to the town list to trust, the easier the autowin is. But idk who those are since I haven't read the game, presumably there are people who have been hard-spewed-town by this flip; I'd need to actually read the game to know who those are.)

I didn't like this post because of how it put mastina herself among the towniest players, when that isn't my opinion.

Here's something concrete. This post. This post is why I townread her. You said you played with her, Flea, so you should know that she makes this kinda post as town. If you don't, then either we have vastly different experience with her or you refuse to see it, in which case it's on you.

Sorry about that I typed in the quote

[Yume]

Well, the usual time has passed and she's not around.

VOTE: mastina

[Flea The Magician]

She is inactive due to illness. You're scumreading her for being inactive. Therefore, you're scumreading her for being ill.

Thats not me saying it, thats you chaining information together.

Something you'll learn about me, I'm stupid levels Autistic. I say what I mean, nothing more, nothing less.

[Yume]

That's me saying shes inactive, and likely demotivated because of the perfect game so far.

No, because of illness.

[Flea The Magician]

Thats your thoughts, not mine.

Shes unwell, bummer, hope she's better soon and I genuinely mean that as someone who is ill regular. it fucking sucks.

You're in the game. Play the game or don't be in the game. Its as simple as that.

[Yume]

But whatever arguing with you is pointless. I gave my reasons for townreading her. You rejected them and called them trash. Nothing more needs to be said. Next time you ask someone their reasons, don't be dismissive when they're given to you.

[furtiveglance]

Well, the usual time has passed and she's not around.

VOTE: mastina

Whiplash

But I think this is a good choice

[Flea The Magician]

But whatever arguing with you is pointless. I gave my reasons for townreading her. You rejected them and called them trash. Nothing more needs to be said. Next time you ask someone their reasons, don't be dismissive when they're given to you.

Maybe have reasons that are better suited for Day 4, instead of Day 1 reasoning.

[Flea The Magician]

ALso kinda the point of the game is to dismantle peoples reads and opinions to see what their motive is.

"Meta" can't be dismantled.

[Yume]

I did. You dismissed them too.

[Yume]

ALso kinda the point of the game is to dismantle peoples reads and opinions to see what their motive is.

"Meta" can't be dismantled.

So? I use it because it works for me.