HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[Aisa]

1.01

Votecount 1.01

HighPrincessErinys (1):

Passenger.

Malakittens (1):

Flea The Magician.

Bellaphant (1):

Elements.

Radical Rat (1):

Bellaphant.

Eiralox (1):

Radical Rat.

Wayward Son (1):

BlueBloodedToffee.

BlueBloodedToffee (1):

ActionDan.

Flea The Magician (1):

HighPrincessErinys.

Save The Dragons (1):

Save The Dragons.

No Elimination (1):

Eiralox.

Not Voting (6):

Killing Joke, Enchant, Titus, Wayward Son, Andresvmb, Malakittens.

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate someone.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-01-20 01:00:00).

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Wayword

[Malakittens]

I am Miller.

That is all good night.

Well well well, if it isn't the early claim!

It has to be. It’s the only way to play Miller.

I am Miller.

That is all good night.

Well well well, if it isn't the early claim!

Miller is a required post 1 claim on this site

That^

I am Miller.

That is all good night.

Well well well, if it isn't the early claim!

Miller is a required post 1 claim on this site

News to this one but makes sense, outside of the possibility of fakeclaim and yadda yadda not important to consider right now.

I mean a potential cop could waste a check on me, but I’m come up guilty. My role is to weaken cop so it’s better for them to know not to waste a check on me.

D1 of a large, eugh.
VOTE: Malakittens
Miller go yeet.

Flea go yeeeet.

[Malakittens]

YO DAN

Yo!

It's nice to virtually see you again!

(Please be town )

(You too Mala! I'm still LI strong)

Yay! Welcome back!

I am as well!!

[Titus]

VOTE: Wayword

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Eiralox

[Titus]

Hmm.

[Wayward Son]

Early wagons are fun, except when you're on a ship (HMS Mutiny) out to sea!

I'm loyal Crew, served faithfully the entire time I've been aboard. I've only heard rumors of this Black Spot, and would never knowingly associate with anyone who practices it's dark arts.

Our Doll seems to be right on their predictions so far.

[Wayward Son]

I'd love to see a Tarot reading on the person afflicted with the Black Spot, if it (Black Spot) does turn out to more than just an old tale.

[Killing Joke]

@all

I think a 16 player setup usually has 12:4 town:scum which is scumsided heavily by default (before taking into account the impact of Theme and TPRs) and I think the Black Spot mechanic is part of a holistic design attempt to give Town better chances.

This makes me slightly skeptical of Mala's miller claim on a mechanical level, though I believe the sorting in 77 looks genuine, so it kind of evens out. I also disagree claiming is the only way to play miller.

Also because of this I'm fine policy chucking anyone who advocates for a mass claim D1/D2.

On an unrelated note, I'm also good policy chucking anyone who advocates for a "high info" lim without a mechanical argument at any point in the game. Dayplay 101:

Scummy+low poster lim > scummy+high poster lim > anyone else

@Bella

@Eiralox

@Mala

@Titus

Hey! How are you?

@HPE

Is 12 really all you have to say on the cards you drew? You can't elaborate any further about what they mean?

@Wayword

Can you say something that makes me want to Townread you because right now you're one of my three scum reads and 83 does nothing for me.

@Elements

Why the chess in 55? Is playing chess within a mafia game normal behavior from you?

[Wayward Son]

Can you say something that makes me want to Townread you because right now you're one of my three scum reads and 83 does nothing for me.

I don't know?

I can't find a good argument against any of the votes against me, so nothing there.

I think HPE's gimmick is fine, and probably more likely comes from a loyal Crew member than not.

That's really all I got right now.

[Titus]

Killing Joke, what site are you from? I've played on a lot, but most have a universal miller requirement that says you're not from here. I appreciate the bit about how you think. I'll return the favor.

I have no problem randomly voting someone while wagons are forming. I use it to get reactions and analyze vote patterns later (VCA). I look to get in people's heads and predict how they'll move on a sociological and psychological manner but I find meta less useful as that can be adapted while personality can't. The differences tell alignment.

No one has any real good reasons for votes yet as it's RVS.

StD's vote countering Wayward Son is interesting but I don't know what to make of it yet.

I'm a player that likes to get wagons going.

[HighPrincessErinys]

@HPE

Is 12 really all you have to say on the cards you drew? You can't elaborate any further about what they mean?

Hey, never said this one is a professional.

[Wayward Son]

VOTE: HPE
not rvs, going off vibes

Just a reminder, HPE asked you about this.

[Eiralox]

You are the one speaking oddly, murderous jester.


I am well, murderous jester.

Titus, if I ken rightly you're saying Dragons wanting to drown me could be to distract from Wayward? I'll let that cook.

Wayward Son, who don't you trust?

[Wayward Son]

I can go through the whole thread in a few minutes. Not gonna bother with ISOs now.

I don't mind the role playing going on, it kinda makes me want to think they're loyal Crew members.

KJ could be a good addition to the Crew with their aggression. If they be loyal.

Wagons are good, even on loyal Crew. The Mutineers can be caught out when jumping on them. Me being the leading wagon, I got nothing so far in analysis.

There are so many others, just standing around listening. I think they should be made to have a say. It very well could be those few that were huddled together in the dark earlier. I didn't get to see their faces.

p-edit Only the Captain

[Wayward Son]

The Captain is where my loyalties be. I have little trust in anyone right now. Those that are the loudest can be loyal, but Mutineers need to move things in their favor. Reserving judgement til later.

Of the quieter partners on this voyage, I'm especially suspicious of Passenger. I'm eagerly awaiting their next post.

[Bellaphant]

@titus, killing joke is Nancy and frog!
@killing joke, hi! Ask me a question? Who are your three scum reads?


I can see some of the roles being swingy, so I'm kinda fine with the miller claim for now.

[Titus]

Titus, if I ken rightly you're saying Dragons wanting to drown me could be to distract from Wayward? I'll let that cook.

Correct but it could be wagons for wagons sake. Just something I have flagged as possibly determining later.

[Killing Joke]

@titus, killing joke is Nancy and frog!
@killing joke, hi! Ask me a question? Who are your three scum reads?


I can see some of the roles being swingy, so I'm kinda fine with the miller claim for now.

Yes and do you have any solid reads yet Town or scum?

I'd consider my Flea read solid and I'd end the day now to shoot them if given the option. My other two scum reads are more ambivalent.

I scum read Elements:

i am drunk

I can't tell if this is some sort of claim or a comment on the state of real life enchant

I'm assuming i have to include the previous moves and that should be kings bishop to c5

Elements' question to Enchant is a scum tell and Elements seems like they engaged with Passenger primarily to pocket them and bloat the thread.

Flea:

What do we do with a drunken sailor?
What do we do with a drunken sailor?
What do we do with a drunken sailor?
Err-lye in the mooorning!

Put 'im in the brig until he's sober!
Put 'im in the brig until he's sober!
Put 'im in the brig until he's sober!
Err-lye in the mooorning!

D1 of a large, eugh.
VOTE: Malakittens
Miller go yeet.

The slot's first post is +scum for like 5 different reasons and the song post seems designed to coast.

And--though I'm liking them the more they post--Wayword Son:

This happens right in the middle of cooking dinner. I call shenanigans.

I'll be back in a few hours with (maybe RVS).

See ya then.

Of all the votes out there right now, STD's case seems the best, but I'm leery.

@STD Why should I sheep you?

I think it's too early to be claiming to have reviewed any cases and I'm leery the slot's first post was a tactical delay because they realized scum posting takes more energy. I think they've already exited most player's scum range since these posts so that makes me less confident on them.

[Killing Joke]

@all

Any info out there on Wayword Son?

@HPE

Is 12 really all you have to say on the cards you drew? You can't elaborate any further about what they mean?

Hey, never said this one is a professional.

That's true. How do you expect to improve though if you won't try to deliver when an audience asks for more?

Killing Joke, what site are you from? I've played on a lot, but most have a universal miller requirement that says you're not from here. I appreciate the bit about how you think. I'll return the favor.

I have no problem randomly voting someone while wagons are forming. I use it to get reactions and analyze vote patterns later (VCA). I look to get in people's heads and predict how they'll move on a sociological and psychological manner but I find meta less useful as that can be adapted while personality can't. The differences tell alignment.

No one has any real good reasons for votes yet as it's RVS.

StD's vote countering Wayward Son is interesting but I don't know what to make of it yet.

I'm a player that likes to get wagons going.

That's too funny that you won the anonymous alt game by guessing my identity!

I agree you are good with VCA and you're proactive about getting info.

Something else you helped me realize is that sometimes I need to use my role sooner than I think and other times I need to wait for others to make plays first. I feel like I understood that in really simple games but in complex games I didn't get that until I watched you play.

If this helps any, I think Dragons can be pre flipped as Town. Does that change anything wrt your Wayword analysis?

[Radical Rat]

I think ye be readin' a bit much into Wayward Son's claim o' readin' cases. It be worth notin' Fenrir'd been votin' hisself at the time, and the "case" comment be keepin' with the spirit of ARRRGH VS.

I do think I agree with ye 'bout the Flea, though I question why ye wouldn't be votin' fae if ye feel so strongly 'bout it?

[HighPrincessErinys]

@HPE

Is 12 really all you have to say on the cards you drew? You can't elaborate any further about what they mean?

Hey, never said this one is a professional.

That's true. How do you expect to improve though if you won't try to deliver when an audience asks for more?

Hmm, suppose you're right. Let's give it a go then.

Financial loss, poverty, and lack mindset all encapsulate the present situation quite well, indeed, possibly more than the latter two keywords. Shortage on treasure does things to a crew... This would propel The Moon into a more immediate spotlight however, as the three cards can easily be interpreted as past present and future. Our past is a lack of booty, our present is the fear and anxiety of a possible mutiny, and the intuition required to find the mutineers, and our immediate future has hard, likely grueling, work in store for us. As for the Ace of Pentacles... This one must admit it's stumped, as it's not like there's career opportunities at the bottom of the ocean, nor is it going to start raining gold and jewels. The most it can think of is some kind of recruitment, but there's no way the mutineers could convince anyone not already in their treacherous clique to join them. We might just have to see what happens to know what the card alludes to.



In other news, this one will be waiting for more crew to turn up and say their piece (and for those present already to say more!) to start really digging into things.

[Elements]

@Elements

Why the chess in 55? Is playing chess within a mafia game normal behavior from you?

Haven't done it before, but I'd say it's in character

[Killing Joke]

I think ye be readin' a bit much into Wayward Son's claim o' readin' cases. It be worth notin' Fenrir'd been votin' hisself at the time, and the "case" comment be keepin' with the spirit of ARRRGH VS.

I do think I agree with ye 'bout the Flea, though I question why ye wouldn't be votin' fae if ye feel so strongly 'bout it?

Good question; there is a specific reason and it's because I thought about it and decided I wanted to talk to Harley first.

Hmm, suppose you're right. Let's give it a go then.

I haven't read your tarot reading in-depth yet but it looks +town on a quick skim. Thank you for posting it and I will read it again soon.

@Elements

Why the chess in 55? Is playing chess within a mafia game normal behavior from you?

Haven't done it before, but I'd say it's in character

That's what worries me, a very poor choice of words on your part. How come you aren't posting any reads lists yet? You did that already by now in the last completed Town game you played with me.