Newbie 2109: Taco Hemingway | Game Over

[Weuler]

You, Space and Not Known is voting for him.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate, brother. Dionysus is at E-3.

Not Known 15, Space and CCGeek are voting Dionysus, putting Dionysus at E-2.
VOTE: CCGeek
I don't believe what I quoted was an innocent mistake.

[Weuler]

Don't try to use your Geass to get out of this CCG, we have sunglasses

[CCGeek]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate, brother. Dionysus is at E-3.

Not Known 15, Space and CCGeek are voting Dionysus, putting Dionysus at E-2.
VOTE: CCGeek
I don't believe what I quoted was an innocent mistake.

Well, it

was

a genuine mistake on my part. Not Known's vote skipped my mind when I made that post, as well as earlier when I put the vote on him. However, it really doesn't change much. It was the only "non-random" vote at that point available to me. With all the fluff that was being thrown around, I figured I might as well start a proper discussion. And, hey, it succeeded in a way.

Also IMHO, E-2 isn't really "bad" on page 1 of Day 1, and in fact, the person's reaction as well as the future development on the wagon outside RVS may provide an interesting point to analyze later in the game.

With that said, I'd prefer to not retract my vote for now, this discussion has the potential to evolve further.

[Weuler]

The result of the CCG wagon may be even more informative

[DkKoba]

Votecount 1.1

Pireneje - Taco Hemingway

Dionysus

(3): Not Known 15, Space, CCGeek

CCGeek

(2): Weuler, Fredrick A Campbell

Weuler

(1): AurorusVox

Fredrick A Campbell

(1): Wayward Son

Not Voting

(2): Dionysus, FroggyMaybe
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline ends in: (expired on 2023-01-22 16:03:39).
FroggyMaybe has (expired on 2023-01-13 21:44:19) to confirm their role.

[CCGeek]

The result of the CCG wagon may be even more informative

Ooh, can't wait!

[AurorusVox]

I would never let mere odds get in the way of my intuition

Surely stating that your intuition is horribly wrong doesn't get me pushed further, right?

In all seriousness, fluff aside, the only notable thing that has happened till now is Dionysus' response, saying that Weuler's pfp loads for him, in response to me. AKA responding to fluff when he could respond to existing game content (Space's vote on him) or drop his own vote.

Therefore, I shall VOTE: Dionysus.

How is him not voting any worse than you voting to no vote?
Also don’t like the “it’s not E-2”, “oh it doesn’t matter it’s E-2”, seems slippery

VOTE: CCG

[CCGeek]

How is him not voting any worse than you voting to no vote?
Also don’t like the “it’s not E-2”, “oh it doesn’t matter it’s E-2”, seems slippery.

I tried to contribute to starting the conversation, brother. What Dionysus did was respond to filler, when there was actual game content he could respond to. While yes, I didn't vote, the NV was also an attempt at prompting people to speak up. Get them involved. Speaking up against what usually defies convention.

Also istg, if a genuine but stupid mistake leads me to becoming the lim for today, I'll literally riot... that is exactly what had happened my last town game asw.
The "not E-2" mistake was a genuine mistake. Not sure how to make it more believable, but yeah. I changed my stance to "doesn’t matter it’s E-2", because:
1. I want a reaction out of the Dionysus slot before changing my vote and
2. It really doesn't matter it's E-2 in a D1 2-scum scenario. And 2 of those votes are RVS votes. I really want to repeat what I said in #28.

Honestly, I would've understood if this fuss was about me accidentally putting someone at E-1. But even in that case, on a D1, I wouldn't have withdrawn my vote, since the slot in question hasn't posted their thoughts yet.

[CCGeek]

Also, woo! I'm at E-2

[Weuler]

How is him not voting any worse than you voting to no vote?
Also don’t like the “it’s not E-2”, “oh it doesn’t matter it’s E-2”, seems slippery.

Honestly, I would've understood if this fuss was about me accidentally putting someone at E-1. But even in that case, on a D1, I wouldn't have withdrawn my vote, since the slot in question hasn't posted their thoughts yet.

You wouldn't have minded putting someone at E-1 at page 1 on day 1? You do realise that allows a scum to "accidentally" hammer?

[Dionysus]

I would never let mere odds get in the way of my intuition

Surely stating that your intuition is horribly wrong doesn't get me pushed further, right?

In all seriousness, fluff aside, the only notable thing that has happened till now is Dionysus' response, saying that Weuler's pfp loads for him, in response to me. AKA responding to fluff when he could respond to existing game content (Space's vote on him) or drop his own vote.

Therefore, I shall VOTE: Dionysus.

Well, up until this post there was no proper game content to respond to, only fluff. None of the votes on me were serious (because I have "sus" in my name? Come on). However you are pinging me with this with trying to rush an elimination so quickly on day 1. VOTE: CCGeek

[Dionysus]

Actually, UNVOTE: CCGeek as don't want to rush one myself but my fos is on your for now.

[Weuler]

Also istg, if a genuine but stupid mistake leads me to becoming the lim for today, I'll literally riot... that is exactly what had happened my last town game asw.
The "not E-2" mistake was a genuine mistake. Not sure how to make it more believable, but yeah.

I have no trouble believing you accidentally missed Not Known's vote. After all they don't have an avatar so easy to miss. I do, however, find your reasoning for not minding E-1 or E-2 to be odd.

[Not Known 15]

Town(by exclusion)FroggyMaybe, CCGeek, AurorusVox, Space, Weuler, Wayward Son


Scum:Dionysus, Fredrick A Campbell

VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

(Their reactions to Dionysus being E-2 are awful)

[Weuler]

Town(by exclusion)FroggyMaybe, CCGeek, AurorusVox, Space, Weuler, Wayward Son


Scum:Dionysus, Fredrick A Campbell

VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

(Their reactions to Dionysus being E-2 are awful)

Could you explain the difference between Campbell's reaction and Aurorus's reaction?

[Dionysus]

Town(by exclusion)FroggyMaybe, CCGeek, AurorusVox, Space, Weuler, Wayward Son


Scum:Dionysus, Fredrick A Campbell

VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

(Their reactions to Dionysus being E-2 are awful)

What is particularly awful about my response? Having someone E-2 so quickly is advantageous to scum.

[Space]

Also don’t like the “it’s not E-2”, “oh it doesn’t matter it’s E-2”, seems slippery

This seems misinformative to me.
The "it's not E-2" is not what was said, it was CCG typing one thing and then after getting called out on it admitting his mistake.
The "oh it doesn't matter it's E-2" was not his excuse either with the actual quote being

Also IMHO, E-2 isn't really "bad" on page 1 of Day 1, and in fact, the person's reaction as well as the future development on the wagon outside RVS may provide an interesting point to analyze later in the game.

With that said, I'd prefer to not retract my vote for now, this discussion has the potential to evolve further.

Although I can understand how Aurorus might come to to these conclusions, I will be voting them. VOTE: Aurorus

Also the fact that my first vote got taken seriously I find is a little funny. :P

[Space]

The excuse I read from CCG's post was that they were ok getting it to E-2 to see how Dionysus/others would respond to it, in case anyone is curious.

[Dionysus]

Also the fact that my first vote got taken seriously I find is a little funny.

I assume the person you think took this seriously was me but I didn't.

[Space]

No, the person I saw who took it seriously was CCG surprisingly.
Mainly thinking of this quote (Bolded Text):

In all seriousness, fluff aside, the only notable thing that has happened till now is Dionysus' response, saying that Weuler's pfp loads for him, in response to me. AKA responding to fluff when he could respond to

existing game content (Space's vote on him)

or drop his own vote.

[Dionysus]

No, the person I saw who took it seriously was CCG surprisingly.
Mainly thinking of this quote (Bolded Text):

In all seriousness, fluff aside, the only notable thing that has happened till now is Dionysus' response, saying that Weuler's pfp loads for him, in response to me. AKA responding to fluff when he could respond to

existing game content (Space's vote on him)

or drop his own vote.

Fair. I was myself surprised I was expected to respond to this. Curious to see what CCG has to say now

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Spoiler: post 28 by CCGeek

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate, brother. Dionysus is at E-3.

Not Known 15, Space and CCGeek are voting Dionysus, putting Dionysus at E-2.
VOTE: CCGeek
I don't believe what I quoted was an innocent mistake.

Well, it

was

a genuine mistake on my part. Not Known's vote skipped my mind when I made that post, as well as earlier when I put the vote on him. However, it really doesn't change much. It was the only "non-random" vote at that point available to me. With all the fluff that was being thrown around, I figured I might as well start a proper discussion. And, hey, it succeeded in a way.

Also IMHO, E-2 isn't really "bad" on page 1 of Day 1, and in fact, the person's reaction as well as the future development on the wagon outside RVS may provide an interesting point to analyze later in the game.

With that said, I'd prefer to not retract my vote for now, this discussion has the potential to evolve further.

CCGeek said his saying it was E-3 was a genuine mistake. In the same paragraph, he said he was trying to spark discussion (presumably by saying it was E-3 when it was E-2).

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I suspect:
Space is town.
CCGeek is mafia.
Not Known 15 is mafia with CCGeek.

[DkKoba]

FroggyMaybe is being replaced.