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[giuseppina]

please no end day or anything

please

won’t really be around until later haven’t read up just saw e-2

[Lucian]

Lucian. If you haven't read Baton Pass beyond the flips why am I second in your "feared scum players" list?

Well I know you endgamed as scum in that game, and I know RC was bulletproof town in that game. Even without reading anything you did that game, can't be bad at scum if you did that.

I am also vaguely aware of the events in C9++. I know there was a double cop claim in that game and that scum swept. Mena talked about that game in Autumnal Mafia. (God, that game was so long ago...)

And I was partly keeping up with TM2021 flag game, where I remember Mena saying you were extremely good at scum, and I reckon he would know, since C9++.

I feel like... I have heard of some other Good Scumgames of yours, or commentary from someone, but I can't place it. I am aware of your capabilities, even though I've never actually witnessed them.

[Aristeia]

and I am really sorry if my read on you is wrong

Why aren't you explaining why I'm scum? If you think so and are fine with being flipped here?

because i am fine with scum you beating this town. i would be your biggest cheerleader in fact

[Lucian]

And there's also the thing that not may players at this table are very... scary as scum. >_>

[Lucian]

because i am fine with scum you beating this town.

At face value, this feels like lowkey gamethrowing, which. Hm.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don’t let her scum smooth talk lead you astray Dats.

[Aristeia]

because i am fine with scum you beating this town.

At face value, this feels like lowkey gamethrowing, which. Hm.

gamethrowing involves intent

[Shirou]

and I am really sorry if my read on you is wrong

Why aren't you explaining why I'm scum? If you think so and are fine with being flipped here?

because i am fine with scum you beating this town. i would be your biggest cheerleader in fact

waw rude²

[Aristeia]

and I am really sorry if my read on you is wrong

Why aren't you explaining why I'm scum? If you think so and are fine with being flipped here?

because i am fine with scum you beating this town. i would be your biggest cheerleader in fact

waw rude²

every town that has ever miselimmed me has lost :/

[Shirou]

Didn't read first reroll of the beetle game,

Subject: Micro 974.1: Dung Beetle Redux (Game Over)

am I required to read the original roll

were they town in there

also I'm not Flavy, but I welcome you to guess again if you wish.

you probably should read the original roll it's quite interesting

yes they were

huh! have i played with you in the past few weeks?

inb4 "oh yeah he forgot completely about it"...except there's also this:

OH YOU'RE BUNNO OKAY OKAY EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW

like iirc you were powerful in beetle but not much more than that

So it

does

feel like TGP remembers more about the beetle game than he is trying to argue about, however he

has

read both games except he only forgot completely about one? It feels selective faulty memory to me, if he didn't remember both games it would be more believable but only remembering one of them is rather weird especially when trying to say you remember little of it but saying things that shows otherwise.

There was also this cute post by TGP in the beetle game I guess, kinda contradicts with his current stance on me a bit:

but not much more than that

Subject: Micro 974.1: Dung Beetle Redux (Game Over)

smoke = pookey

mirros = nancy

tgp thanks for the heal but I'm not sure I want it like I said

i'm trying to figure you out

scum wouldn't do this but you're also supposed to be a 1000iq scum player so hm

[Shirou]

Also, TGP having a huge problem with me having a "facade" with Norwe feels weird considering this:

Subject: Micro 974.1: Dung Beetle Redux (Game Over)

first, my scumlean on bunno was a facade - i townread him, and wanted to give him an opportunity to operate on dr. zenkava

[Shirou]

It doesn't feel like TGP had a huge problem...*gasp*, lying a bit as town but he suddenly has a huge problem with me doing it here?

[Shirou]

All of this

CAN

be a coincidence and "yeah TGP just forgot about only one of the games that were played in a row" and "yeah he just changed his mind completely about what's acceptable to do as town in 2 years, especially consideirng he wasn't too active during this period".

However, I think there's good reason to at least never let TGP slot endgame here.

I mean

never

.

[Shirou]

My mistake on Dance Game/MariaR was to fake a bit too much the confidence on it never being possibly town and that damaged my standing in the game and also messed up with my head.

I was considering Ydrasse one of the most likely slots to be scum if MariaR flipped town before I felt guilty about the flip and brought up her AtE. I also ended up pocketed by Meuh because at some point it felt like she was the unique player on my side/not mocking me post-MariaR flip and I just stopped caring about sorting her objectively until the last day.

So I'm not doing this here, but I would be

VERY

surprised if there's no scum in [TGP/Lucian/Una/Ari], perhaps enough to straight up win the game.

For what it's worth...I don't know, I think objectively Ari isn't a bad elimination but my heart keeps telling me that it's a miselimination or at least there's scum playing around this wagon.

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think i mocked you post mariar flip :< sorry if i did but i don't remember doing that

[Shirou]

I don't want to stop the Ari wagon though because I do think that it can be scum and stopping a scum elimination feels bad and I don't need to be blamed more k'thx.

[Shirou]

i don't think i mocked you post mariar flip :< sorry if i did but i don't remember doing that

Sorry maybe I'm being unfair, I feel like I was just too self-concious about it so the few people that did that directly or indirectly made me few like it represented "the majority/everyone" feelings on the matter

Either way I'll forever remember the Dance Game as "Black Flag TM 2021 but gone wrong", where I try to hard carry the game but unlike Black Flag I was wrong on the next scum and the game feel into chaos just like Black Flag would if I wasn't right about Auro there

[Shirou]

I think Dance Game was a pretty good lesson to me. maybe.

[Aristeia]

I don't want to stop the Ari wagon though because I do think that it can be scum and stopping a scum elimination feels bad and I don't need to be blamed more k'thx.

"she can be scum"

[Shirou]

So I'm not doing this here, but I would be

VERY

surprised if there's no scum in [TGP/Lucian/Una/Ari], perhaps enough to straight up win the game.

Okay, actually, not "very surprised". I'm exaggerating a bit. With my

current

information I think there's scum there with very good odds but I can't know what kind of posts people inside that bracket will post in the future/after this post.

I guess that was also one of my mistakes in Dance Game and a few town games "

totally gone wrong

" of mine, I try to solve the entire thing on day 1 or so and even if I'm right on

something

I'm never right on the

whole

thing, and as I often get NK'd early (for being too townread, not for having good reads) I end up without the possibility of being able to solve with most of the content in the game (because like, day 1 alone is most of the time much smaller/less solvable than the rest of the days together).

[Shirou]

I don't want to stop the Ari wagon though because I do think that it can be scum and stopping a scum elimination feels bad and I don't need to be blamed more k'thx.

"she can be scum"

My bad. I was thinking of "the wagon" so I typed "it" but you're right it should be "she" there.

[Shirou]

I've officially stopped thinking about Norwe's alignment since that 1v1 and I do wonder if it's gonna be another depressing Meuh situation

I do have better reasons to town read Norwe here though I think, so ?probably? not

[Shirou]

so, I kinda approve of Ari's wagon but I would be more interested on one of [Lucian/TGP/Una] rather than her at the moment.

I don't want to go back to voting Una yet but I wonder if she's my unique option for today other than Ari, I'm curious to see what @Pina has to say about my stuff on TGP.

[Shirou]

That's all of my heavy D1 contribution most likely, back to fluffling and low efforting

[Save The Dragons]

lucian and ari seem unpartnered to me, do you think they could potentially be partners?