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Aristeia · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:29 am

In post 971, Shirou wrote:I've officially stopped thinking about Norwe's alignment since that 1v1 and I do wonder if it's gonna be another depressing Meuh situation

I do have better reasons to town read Norwe here though I think, so ?probably? not

he didnt even know the scum could nightkill

Aristeia · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:30 am

thats just too cute to fake

Shirou · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:32 am

Tbh Ari may be scum after all due to giving up so easily here, and saying stuff like "maybe Shirou is paying more attention to everyone posts rather than me" when she suspects me to be scum and not needing to be *

that

* attentive to other people actions even if I was trying to formulate evil plans or so in the background.

It doesn't feel like she has much will towards playing this and limming scum but at the same time...I can understand being demotivated to play this game, sure.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:33 am

In post 935, Aristeia wrote:i just want it to be known if i get flipped that i am not detached from this game. i probably am more attached and more aware of what every player in this game is doing than anyone except maybe shirou and una. whether you listen to me or handwave me as crazy detached lady is up to you.

what

Shirou · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:33 am

In post 976, Aristeia wrote:thats just too cute to fake

I don't think he can ever be scum even before that yes

but that post was more of a "I've been wrong on everything the past few weeks so what's the chance I'm wrong even on one of my most confident reads in my near 5 years in this site? maybe not unlikely because it's coming from

me

"

Lucian · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:34 am

I was kinda hoping Shirou would elaborate on his method of reading me after my recent posts towards him because he remains to be an enigma to me, but alright.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:34 am

In post 944, Aubrey wrote:We still have 5 non voters and a older Klick vote from Lucian. Where do y’all stand at this point?

I’d like to see votes or some form a determined action from people. Or is everyone cool with a Ari sacrifice here?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:34 am

I don't like being townread if it comes with the caveat of bullying.

Lucian · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:36 am

Ironically enough, Ari being "fine" with dying here is what is giving me pause but not enough pause.

Shirou, is there anything you'd want my commentary on that would help you solve me?

Aristeia · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:36 am

In post 978, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 935, Aristeia wrote:i just want it to be known if i get flipped that i am not detached from this game. i probably am more attached and more aware of what every player in this game is doing than anyone except maybe shirou and una. whether you listen to me or handwave me as crazy detached lady is up to you.
what

i was annoyed by std's characterization of me being detached

Shirou · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:37 am

In post 982, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't like being townread if it comes with the caveat of bullying.

Eh I'm not bullying you

I think it's an okay misconception to have about the setup, I do think it's also unlikely for it to come from scum!you though.

Shirou · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:39 am

In post 983, Lucian wrote:Ironically enough, Ari being "fine" with dying here is what is giving me pause but not enough pause.

Shirou, is there anything you'd want my commentary on that would help you solve me?

Unfortunately I don't think so, I think just watching you post about the game normally is the best way for me to change my mind on you if I'm mistaken

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:40 am

In post 954, Lucian wrote:
In post 952, Aristeia wrote:because i am fine with scum you beating this town.
At face value, this feels like lowkey gamethrowing, which. Hm.

In post 963, Shirou wrote:My mistake on Dance Game/MariaR was to fake a bit too much the confidence on it never being possibly town and that damaged my standing in the game and also messed up with my head.

I was considering Ydrasse one of the most likely slots to be scum if MariaR flipped town before I felt guilty about the flip and brought up her AtE. I also ended up pocketed by Meuh because at some point it felt like she was the unique player on my side/not mocking me post-MariaR flip and I just stopped caring about sorting her objectively until the last day.

So I'm not doing this here, but I would be
VERY
surprised if there's no scum in [TGP/Lucian/Una/Ari], perhaps enough to straight up win the game.

For what it's worth...I don't know, I think objectively Ari isn't a bad elimination but my heart keeps telling me that it's a miselimination or at least there's scum playing around this wagon.

I’m more scared of town!Ari making endgame than I am of scum!Ari endgaming, as weird as that sounds

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:41 am

Top quote is relevant to my statement actually

Shirou · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:41 am

In post 983, Lucian wrote:Ironically enough, Ari being "fine" with dying here is what is giving me pause but not enough pause.

She was also fine with dying on Dance Game though? She didn't try too hard.

Shirou · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:43 am

Ari what do you think of what I posted about TGP?

Aristeia · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:45 am

i have no confidence in reading tgp and i dont know if what you posted is ai or useful for sorting him at all.

Shirou · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:47 am

why aren't you trying to survive harder if town?

are you demotivated to effort? is it because of the weird mood of this game?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:48 am

I personally don't think TGP has been scummy so far, but i wouldn't say it's an confident read since there hasn't been terribly much content from him to judge.

Lucian · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:49 am

In post 989, Shirou wrote:
In post 983, Lucian wrote:Ironically enough, Ari being "fine" with dying here is what is giving me pause but not enough pause.
She was also fine with dying on Dance Game though? She didn't try too hard.

Wasn't she towncasing Norwee there in hopes to get people off him? Or did I imagine that?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:50 am

In post 994, Lucian wrote:Wasn't she towncasing Norwee there in hopes to get people off him?

Yep, but it was an herculean task. If she had succeeded: instant scummy award.

ISO · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:50 am

this feels like the town answer:

In post 993, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I personally don't think TGP has been scummy so far, but i wouldn't say it's an confident read since there hasn't been terribly much content from him to judge.

this feels like the scum answer:

In post 991, Aristeia wrote:i have no confidence in reading tgp and i dont know if what you posted is ai or useful for sorting him at all.

Aristeia · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:50 am

In post 992, Shirou wrote:why aren't you trying to survive harder if town?

are you demotivated to effort? is it because of the weird mood of this game?

i am motivated to survive as either alignment so whether i do survivalistic things is not really alignment indicative.

i understand how to convince people not to vote me but doing it in my previous games have been unpleasant and caused people i like to not want to play with me anymore. i decided to stop doing that as a result.

Aristeia · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:52 am

In post 989, Shirou wrote:
In post 983, Lucian wrote:Ironically enough, Ari being "fine" with dying here is what is giving me pause but not enough pause.
She was also fine with dying on Dance Game though? She didn't try too hard.

well me dying in dance game would be good for my team because it led to you forcing maria, make vpb look bad and set my team up for endgame.

i play to my win conditions.

Shirou · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:53 am

In post 994, Lucian wrote:
In post 989, Shirou wrote:
In post 983, Lucian wrote:Ironically enough, Ari being "fine" with dying here is what is giving me pause but not enough pause.
She was also fine with dying on Dance Game though? She didn't try too hard.
Wasn't she towncasing Norwee there in hopes to get people off him? Or did I imagine that?

She tried a bit once she was within hammer range I guess, but she shrugged off for the longest time a gamestate that increasingly turned into the direction of her death more and more. She didn't even seriously try to make Norwe town read her in the PT I think.