HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[Aisa]

1.07

Votecount 1.07

Save The Dragons (4):

Killing Joke, Wayward Son, ActionDan, HighPrincessErinys.

HighPrincessErinys (3):

Passenger, Save The Dragons, Enchant.

Killing Joke (2):

Flea The Magician, Radical Rat.

BlueBloodedToffee (1):

Titus.

Enchant (1):

Elements.

Andresvmb (1):

Malakittens.

Elements (1):

Bellaphant.

No Elimination (1):

Eiralox.

Not Voting (2):

Andresvmb, BlueBloodedToffee.

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate someone.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-01-20 01:00:00).

Mod Notes

• Elements is V/LA for the weekend.
  
• My avatar looks so weird without a hat considering getting a pirate hat

[Killing Joke]

Hey Titus,

What's up?

Sorry I got prodded. Real life. Meant to comment. Gut VCA says KJ and StD is T v T.

Gut says this is BS, since when do you defend players based on VCA when 0 slots have flipped? What kind of game are you playing here Titus?

[Flea The Magician]

@flea, I don't think we've played together, although I've read a bit about you and larping elsewhere! I tend to do well one on one so have a drink and chuck question or two at me?

yeah I'm a keen LARPer ^_^
Turns out its not a dehydration headache which means it's probably an OSDD headache so this is going to be foggy af for a day or two.

Has anyone in particular underperformed who you were expecting more from today?

[Killing Joke]

And in case your wondering: no, Dragons doesn't coast as Town, it's just AtE they're spewing. Dragons is actually a really good Town player.

[Save The Dragons]

Prepare to be disappointed lol

[Save The Dragons]

Like I don't think it's unreasonable to want answers to my questions or have people explain themselves but apparently you think I shouldn't expect that

[Save The Dragons]

You're in for a rude awakening when you realize things I've been saying aren't town things or scum things

They're std things

And then you would realize that you scumreadinf me in past games may not have been because you caught me, but because you got lucky

Knowing I am town here and you're trying to use meta incorrectly does not make you a very scary player so I dunno why I would fear you

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You think KJ are town, StD?

[Save The Dragons]

I see town and scum things from them

[Killing Joke]

Anyone who hears a voice in their head like

"Aww yeah Dragons is just misunderstood and totally telling the truth here"

Can improve their scumhunting overnight by simply locating the source of that voice in their psyche and severing it from their soul.

That isn't the voice of reason or compassion speaking to you, that's the voice of big goofy blunders which causes you to get high before your dance performance and then bomb your solo variation and end up losing your contract for next season.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: KJ

[Titus]

VOTE: High Princess Energy

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Titus, respond to my last post please?

[Titus]

You think KJ are town, StD?

Thought this one was for StD.

Early 1 v 1s tend to be T v T.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Sorry, I meant the one that I responded to you with.

I'm tired, my words are not working properly.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Pedit - OK, so why vote me when I just unvoted StD who you think is town?

This one...

[Flea The Magician]

Having only read the top 3 posts on page 16 since my last but 1 post I think I should VOTE: enchant

Why?

You really vastly underestimate this one's willingness to ride the wagon. There isn't really anything this one can do to convince you "Actually, it was NOT hesitation!" though, it imagines.

i feel like you're picking the easiest argument to argue.

did you provide analysis? do you have a reason why my posts are scummy?

This one's said it before, alot of it is just surface-level or outright filler. A good number of your posts are just extensions of things that could've been one post, which a decent amount of time itself doesn't really say anything. You're really just coasting along in this one's opinion, even in your fight against Joker.

So the issue is the quantity not quality?

My Read on Flea is that fae have a decent chance at being scum. I don't wish to entirely reiterate their correspondence with Nancy as clearly its a sore spot for both of them and admittedly I did not read specific meta, but understand in a general sense they have a long history.

111 is a scummy post. Voting a claimed miller is not RVS, and placing it there neuters its power. I happen to be biased about "town cores" since I view the practice of actively trying to force these flawed, moreover, to do so at the expense of scumhunting normally very distasteful. Let us take this post as is so we can establish this is Flea's priority and keep it in mind.

Spoiler: Flea: Post 111

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@Flea. any reads so far other than Mala?
~Harley

I mean, Mala is an RVS vote and there's too many people for me to parse at this point - I'm also doing the semi-concious posting thing. I'm hoping to get you and Joker read as a priority, same for Mala as I know between you and Mala at least a solid towncore can be formed. Titus is also a priority to read because if she's town as well then we're laughing because it's a solid towncore.

Fulfilling this objective is immediately sought in post 191. But I question (among other things) this bit:

149 be spicy from the Joker, wanna see how this progresses given I can't work out what the reads are coming from this... o.O Definitely interesting though :3

Which reminds me @Joker still wanna know what was scummy about that post, I ain't having your slot cruise by on my ability to read Nancy.

Why? Why bother at all? the priority is to read Nancy is it not? To determine the alignment of the Hydra by exploiting the meta (and I say meta here because if you think you can read a slot historically well and accurately it is by your knowledge of their meta) of one of the heads. Flea later will vote the slot because of Frog in post 232 and its about here where the slot is irrevocably damaged for Flea.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. And I feel that's what Flea has done. There should be enough material to form a meta read on Nancy, I do think she has had content to analyze and enough posts to form an emotive read if that's how you want to get there. I myself am mostly reading the slot through Nancy's postings now and think (contrary to HPE) that 265 and 267 were particularly towny.

I can see this, and I'm finding it hard to believe Flea can't because Frog, no matter how distracting he is, prevents them from doing so.

[Flea The Magician]

I quite like this analysis if I'm honest.

I'm going to preface this with: I am not a fan of meta; and generally my practice of reading hydras is if one head is rotten, the slot is rotten. This is a thing I do that honestly frustrates and annoys a lot of people.

I agree with you on forcing towncores to be damned awful, the thing for me is if I can get players I know, and if I can determine they're town, then I will start to sanity check things on them. This is very much a personal playstyle and slightly unorthodox from what I can work out. Ultimately the towncore I was looking for is not for the game, it's for me. I will reiterate again, I hate D1 of larges. There's a lot of people and a lot of things to track, so to manage that for myself to avoid getting overwhelmed I go for the people I know and have some confidence in my ability to read.

While my priority is to get my read set on Nancy, I'm not going to put aside completely another player. If I determine that slot to be town, that's two people I am trusting to read immediately. Joker is still in that slot, I am going to interact. I am not going to ignore a single player without danged good reason. Faster I can get a read, the faster I can start looking around at other players. Frog showed red, red it is.
Except because I know Nancy, because I do consider her a good friend I wanted to still read her, instead of my usual line of "yeah screw it, hydras red." I opted to give her some grace, that and if we were both town honestly we'll wipe the game.

You'll notice in my 232 I said I had tried to be nice about sorting the slot, and you've mentioned nothing about what to me was a continual effort to act as though he as above me as well as a number of frankly awful accusations. The slot being irrevocably damage there is absolutely incorrect. You'll note in 264 that I try and reach out to Nancy and even saying I want to be able to read her over Joker due to the damage he has done. Again in 288 I say again they need to show me they're town, and at that moment they weren't. 249 is the point I condemn the slot and confirm/finalise that in 297.

265 is NAI.
267 I do not consider TAI.
I am not going into this whole thing again, but the reasons are stated several times by me both prior to this and in response.
Part of why I'm not going into it is because I don't wish to cause any further conflict with Nancy.

[Flea The Magician]

Of course I split the post in the wrong place...

[Flea The Magician]

huh thought I responded to the 111 thing fully. There was a reason I added it in.

Voting a claimed miller is absolutely RVS. I voted Mala for a random ass reason with no serious intent behind it. Which power is neuterd by my vote, do you think?

[Flea The Magician]

Can improve their scumhunting overnight by simply locating the source of that voice in their psyche and severing it from their soul.

As someone with OSDD and several voices in my head that like to interact and even mess with me...
Less of this please.

[Save The Dragons]

And in case your wondering: no, Dragons doesn't coast as Town, it's just AtE they're spewing. Dragons is actually a really good Town player.

also

i never said i was coasting, someone else said i was coasting and i asked that individual to explain

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: High Princess Energy

And what's this for?

You really vastly underestimate this one's willingness to ride the wagon. There isn't really anything this one can do to convince you "Actually, it was NOT hesitation!" though, it imagines.

i feel like you're picking the easiest argument to argue.

did you provide analysis? do you have a reason why my posts are scummy?

This one's said it before, alot of it is just surface-level or outright filler. A good number of your posts are just extensions of things that could've been one post, which a decent amount of time itself doesn't really say anything. You're really just coasting along in this one's opinion, even in your fight against Joker.

So the issue is the quantity not quality?

It's both, this one would say, but now that its noticed its VERY curious if StD will answer this one's question about what he saw in KJ that made him for them. Maybe more interested in that than the coasting at this point because its a kind of weird thing to say and then just drop quietly.

[Bellaphant]

UNVOTE:

[Passenger]

Hello I am here I have read up to page 16 but I can only post tomorrow

I scumread KJ, and STD and I tr Bella