Mafia 83 - Game Ended Scum Win!

[hasdgfas]

I'd be ok with a lynch. Being that Reclusion is mason it removes the possibility that she is SK (or atleast, I think it's safe to assume that), and I can see the mod having the unconfirmed mason as scum for the second time he does it.

I've had a bad feeling about Hasd all game, but he's looking better lately.

Why are you ok with a lynch of someone who's not here to defend themselves?

[Xtoxm]

If I think someone is scum, what difference does it make if they are here or not?

Already claimed, too.

[hasdgfas]

If I think someone is scum, what difference does it make if they are here or not?

Already claimed, too.

there's much more to defending themselves than claiming, Xtoxm.

[qwints]

I'm ok with a lynch of reclusion/her replacement if people actually believe they are scummy. It would provide evidence for my claim.

But we definitely shouldn't lynch til we get a replacement.

[MafiaSSK]

Bump

[bionicchop2]

Bump

lol.

mod

- vote count please and status of replacement(s).

I haven't seen a case made against reclusion yet by anybody yet except for saying Reclusion is not cleared.

[chazworthington]

Ok, I'm back. Sorry my LA went longer than expected.

I really don't like the pushing for Reclusion when we don't have a player. If we're going to go that route, I'd rather lynch k7.

With respect to the case against Reclusion: The only thing that really strikes out to me is asking for a temporary replacement. Makes me think Reclusion had a role that she didn't want to abandon. If that's true I'm more tempted to label Reclusion the SK since that's a harder role to get. On the flip side, we know the SK hit N2 when Reclusion supposedly wasn't around. And we're all in agreement that Jebus was targeted twice N3 when Quintz didn't hear from her?

Assuming Reclusion isn't lurking, then the NKs would indicate Reclusion isn't the SK. If she's scum, then that clears Cow although Qwintz won't be entirely cleared at that point. I don't think this is enough for me to vote for her.

@Cow: Can you please answer my question in post 640?

@k7: You asked if there were questions. I've asked some, you haven't answered. Please do so.

[Xtoxm]

If she flips scum mason qwintz is clear. And I can't see him faking this, if scum are going to fakeclaim mason they may aswell claim confirmed innoocence as if one dies the other is caught. Can't see Qwintz being scum, and he looks good to me anyway.

[bionicchop2]

I haven't seen a case made against reclusion yet by anybody yet except for saying Reclusion is not cleared.

Would somebody pretty please address this. List reasons for voting Reclusions.

[hasdgfas]

@Cow: Can you please answer my question in post 640?

Sorry, missed the question earlier(and technically it wasn't a question).

I'd like bionic to state why he thinks it's LyLo instead of just following your logic. It's not necessarily not believing it, it's that I'm a bit wary of someone who so readily followed another's logic

[bionicchop2]

@Cow: Can you please answer my question in post 640?

Sorry, missed the question earlier(and technically it wasn't a question).

I'd like bionic to state why he thinks it's LyLo instead of just following your logic. It's not necessarily not believing it, it's that I'm a bit wary of someone who so readily followed another's logic

Stop making believe I haven't already explicitly outlined my thoughts on the matter.

No comments? No errors in my logic? Disagreements? Thoughts as to hunt for scum or the SK today?

I pretty much agree with your longer post. We are in a psuedo-lylo with an unpredictable night regardless.

If we lynch town, then the SK will probably be gunning for mafia (3 town: 2 mafia: 1 sk probable). If the SK is lynched, then it is down to 1 kill at night with likely 2 mafia, 4 town going to 2:3 the next day. If mafia is lynched, the we have a 4:1:1 which could possibly turn into 2:1:1 by day.

I had previously come to the same conclusions as you regarding the remaining suspects, with the obvious exclusion of myself and inclusion of you as potential SK.

It is simple math which you could have figured out if you made any effort instead of asking me several times to restate what I have already stated.

If I believe 2 scum + 1 sk, then we are left with 2 mafia out of 6 players if we don't lynch one. If 2 killing roles are still alive, there is potential for 2 mafia out of 4 players when the night phase ends which equals a loss. Technically it is more along the lines of mislynch and lose (still depends on night phases), but I don't think anybody is proposing a no lynch.

[MafiaSSK]

Still need 1 more vote for a vote count. And still finding a replacee.

[bionicchop2]

Still need 1 more vote for a vote count.

oh.

14:I will post votecounts when asked.

Didn't know there was a number requirement.

[qwints]

Well then, I request a vote count

[XReyoX]

Vote Count

Hasdgfas (1): Bionicchop2
Killa Seven (1): qwints
Reclusion (1): Xtoxm
Xtoxm (1): chazworthington

Not voting (3): Killa Seven, Hasdgfas, Reclusion

7 alive, 4 votes to lynch

[chazworthington]

So where exactly are we at this point? Is the deadline still the same?

[MafiaSSK]

Sadly so.

[bionicchop2]

OK, so deadline on the 28th (3 days). Many of us will be busy in the upcoming days. I know I will be LA on 27/28th. How many of you would be willing to change your vote or consider an alternative?

After just completing a game with K7 lurking close to victory as a serial killer in a large theme game, I have become very wary of him. My new lynch order would be Has / K7 / Xtoxm / chaz / reclusion / qwints. With the numbers reduced and probable 2 scum / 1 sk, I would feel pretty good lynching anybody in the top of my list. I am most comfortable with Has right now. Chaz and reclusion are sort of interchangeable because they aren't too suspicious to me right now.

I would like to know what the thoughts of others are and what we can do to accomplish a lynch. There is a possibility I may not post Thurs / Friday, so faster responses are better.

[hasdgfas]

WHY DO WE HAVE A DEADLINE OVER A HOLIDAY WEEKEND? Gah.

I'm going to be V/LA from the middle of tomorrow through sunday

vote: killa seven

Also, why haven't we had any news of a replacement when we wanted one from the start of the day?

killa seven has gone from annoying lurker to scummy because of how much nothing he's posted.

[bionicchop2]

killa seven has gone from annoying lurker to scummy because of how much nothing he's posted.

This will be the last game I play with him. From now on I /in only if K7 cannot join. I also will not replace into any games with him playing.

[qwints]

killa seven's lurking has been ridiculous. He is clearly paying attention to the game without contributing.

[MafiaSSK]

WHY DO WE HAVE A DEADLINE OVER A HOLIDAY WEEKEND? Gah.

I'm going to be V/LA from the middle of tomorrow through sunday

vote: killa seven

Also, why haven't we had any news of a replacement when we wanted one from the start of the day?

killa seven has gone from annoying lurker to scummy because of how much nothing he's posted.

Because no one is willing to goddamn replace into any of my games.Also any support of modkill for K7?

[bionicchop2]

Also any support of modkill for K7?

I don't think players should have any influence over a modkill.

If we were to choose modkill, we are choosing to end the game.

If we want K7 gone, we should lynch him. He was allowed to live this long, so the mod should not bail the players out. If we let him continue his meta as his peers, then he has every right to play it within the rules.

If he broke a rule, then modkill.

If he has not, then I would say modkill is not called for.

[hasdgfas]

Also any support of modkill for K7?

I don't think players should have any influence over a modkill.

If we were to choose modkill, we are choosing to end the game.

If we want K7 gone, we should lynch him. He was allowed to live this long, so the mod should not bail the players out. If we let him continue his meta as his peers, then he has every right to play it within the rules.

If he broke a rule, then modkill.

If he has not, then I would say modkill is not called for.

:goodposting:

[qwints]

I agree with bionic. K7 should not be modkilled unless he breaks a rule.



He should, however, be lynched for scummy lurking.