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[furtiveglance]

i am like confident enough in fire scum to self vote immediately tomorrow and spend the entire day pushing for my own elim if they're town lol

i don't think ive ever in my mafia career had anyone have this high of confidence on me being scum lol, especially not when im town

that makes it kinda hard for me to believe it comes from a genuine place but maybe you'd be the first

i also thought ari was kinda obvtown tbh

but ive played with her a lot

Sell me on Ari obvtown

me when i feel like i own the game

maybe i'm swayed not to want to murder tgp immediately

the dragons have been saved once again, thank u <3

TGP is lolcatting

[Gimli]

TGP's read on Shirou feels genuine to me.

TGP's progression on shirou is also the thing that made me townread him when I replaced in. His posts today are bad, though.

[furtiveglance]

Gimli I order you to put TGP at E-1 again

[Gimli]

Captain, TGP was the only vote I made this game and I didn't unvote

[furtiveglance]

lol

[furtiveglance]

Hold it.

CSF called TGP/Fire bussing but DIDN'T vote TGP???

[Gimli]

Was rereading TGP's big reads post and it's still the scummiest takes of D2. 1727, for reference. Was townreading him before that, but I was kind of town and nulltown on everybody.

[furtiveglance]

Call me a car for the rest of this day phase

[Gimli]

You seem too eager to close the thread, furtive. You just replaced in and I think, even though I agree we should flip TGP today, talk. Shirou hasn't tried solving yet and I didn't read the majority of D1 (cause I'm traveling and don't have a PC around me, this has all been phoneposting since I replaced in).

[Gimli]

*I think we should talk

[furtiveglance]

Ok.

[furtiveglance]

Gimli why are you townreading me?

[Gimli]

Aubrey was the towniest thing on D2 imo, you come in fires blazing, there are many hints of town in many of your posts and quite frankly I'm not sure you have a scum range where you replace in on D2 of a game like this and start to hard captain an elimination. Didn't play with scum you yet to be sure but I'm guessing your natural posting, presence and firey attitude don't come from scum

[Klick]

what about TGP prevents you from putting him in your higher tier? the way you've been talking about him sounds like he's a stronger townread

Is TGP's trajectory on Shirou something you're explicitly townreading or something you're not-scumreading? (I'm curious why you have TGP in italics instead of null!)

I find these opposite interpretations amusing!

So first of all, I'm going to define my categories:

I'm confident enough that this is town to take them out of consideration

Probably town, but I could see a world where I've gone wrong on the read

Dunno

Person of interest - decent chance of being scum

There's a theoretical fifth category of 'I'm confident that this is scum,' but that doesn't happen often. I'll probably go with

bold and red

if that happens.

I think TGP's progression on Shirou looks genuine and is entirely sensible as a town response to Shirou's play. I don't think it's impossible for his position to be faked, but it makes a lot more sense if he's town.

There's not much else that TGP has done to sway my read on him one way or the other.

[Gimli]

Klick you could be right, but there's more to TGP than the shirou progression. I disagree with CSF in this particular stance, but there's a bigger picture where TGP has been lacklustre and struggling to post anything sensible this gameday. Can't say much about D1 as I wasn't here and just read his ISO.

@klick: can you read 1727 and tell me what you think of those TGP reads? Does that read like town to you?

[furtiveglance]

Aubrey was the towniest thing on D2 imo, you come in fires blazing, there are many hints of town in many of your posts and quite frankly I'm not sure you have a scum range where you replace in on D2 of a game like this and start to hard captain an elimination. Didn't play with scum you yet to be sure but I'm guessing your natural posting, presence and firey attitude don't come from scum

What's my read on you at the moment?

[Gimli]

What's my read on you at the moment?

You're asking cause you're townreading me but you can't be confident

[furtiveglance]

What's my read on you at the moment?

You're asking cause you're townreading me but you can't be confident

Incorrect

I can't townread Lucian's ISO at all, I think you're mafia but you're giving me pause a bit

[Gimli]

Fireisred is townreading Lucian and from what I understood they know him better than you do (I think)

It doesn't matter now, we'll probably get lots of thread time for you to read me correctly

[Klick]

@TGP:

Can you go into more detail what your Shirou votes/suspicion on D1 were about? Did you think Shirou was >rand scum? If so, why? If not, why were you voting Shirou?

I realise some of this might make you repeat stuff you've already said, but there's some confusion about what your Shirou vote was actually about and it would be very useful if you could clarify.

[Klick]

Klick you could be right, but there's more to TGP than the shirou progression. I disagree with CSF in this particular stance, but there's a bigger picture where TGP has been lacklustre and struggling to post anything sensible this gameday. Can't say much about D1 as I wasn't here and just read his ISO.

@klick: can you read 1727 and tell me what you think of those TGP reads? Does that read like town to you?

I'm out with the kids for now but I'll respond to this later

My tldr response to the first bit is that nothing else has really stood out to me as alignment indicative either way but I also haven't looked that hard

[furtiveglance]

Fireisred is townreading Lucian and from what I understood they know him better than you do (I think)

It doesn't matter now, we'll probably get lots of thread time for you to read me correctly

[Shirou]

Gimli I order you to put TGP at E-1 again

Captain, TGP was the only vote I made this game and I didn't unvote

i'm the thread captain full stop

[Shirou]

captain is on vacation

captain thinks it's just a matter of someone town telling in [Aubrey, TGP, Klick, Toto, Gimli]

if there isn't 2 scum in that pool i'll backflip in post-game

there's just one thing bugging me in this game but if i'm wrong on it i think it does a lot of damage to say it...

[Gimli]

*Aubrey*