Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a serious read
!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

[furtiveglance]

yes yes yes yes

A thousand times yes

I scumread you both and the voting fits

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok just wanted you to make that serious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if i flip town and furtive tries to eliminate Titus, murder Furtive first

[furtiveglance]

if i flip town and furtive tries to eliminate Titus, murder Furtive first

bet
call
done deal

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if i flip town and furtive tries to eliminate Titus, murder Furtive first

bet
call
done deal

you can't call me when you literally don't have the votes

it's like calling a bet with no money

[furtiveglance]

if i flip town and furtive tries to eliminate Titus, murder Furtive first

bet
call
done deal

you can't call me when you literally don't have the votes

it's like calling a bet with no money

v r e j

I'm using my own vote

Besides, you have the most votes

[Alisae]

Pookers you don't like Furtive either?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have been making the case for some time now that Shirou's antics come from a place of performative bullshit and not an actual town player so I'm going to explain a bit why by analyzing two sequences.

If you think I am wrong about this feel free to explain how these sequences actually make sense from a town player to me.

Spoiler: Shirou Ate

shirou doesnt even believe im mafia

hes just voting me to shut me up

EXACTLY actually

I think you flip town more often than you flip scum but I'm voting you because not only I'm never letting scum!you get one over me like this, even if you're town I'm just repaying the favor

you've been throwing the same shit in this thread since the game

started

I didn't even wanted to do this pooky but you're being unplayable levels of obnoxious this game and this is coming from ME, SHIROU

The game challenge mechanic makes it so that anyone that wants to can literally, not only figuratively as I often do, but LITERALLY force the game to go along with them

When I scream/spam in the thread people still have a CHOICE of who to vote, we don't here as long as you keep challenging whoever you want like this even if most aren't interested on it

if scum get punished but if town we're gonna talk in the dead thread

Spoiler: More Shirou AtE

If you negated challenge and Pooky did anything other than challenge my team it's in fact a scum claim from him considering how he has been acting so far

in fact has he SAID HE WOULD DO THIS? Go along with you?

Gamma this is important

DON'T LIE

Gamma it's literally a scum claim if he did

LITERALLY

You think he talks so much about hero arc blah blah self-voting blah blah if he's not deadly and unmistakably sure his solve is correct?

if he's considering right now that he's nearly yeeted it's literally just him backpedalling

These two pieces of AtE take place ~ 1 hour apart tonight. I believe they are both designed for AtE and not an actual mindset by Shirou because by their very content they are contradictory.


The first piece of AtE is a complaint that Pooky has made this game so toxic and so overwhelming for him that he is forcing a 1 for 1 trade with me to make it bearable for him to play or w/e. He claims the nature of the game is such that I am holding it hostage and being overwhelmingly obnoxious and that I must be ended for it to regain any semblance of normalcy.

The second piece of AtE is claiming that if I were to actually reconsider his slot and get cold feet on challenging him, I would be scum-claiming and should be autoyeeted.

These two emotions are in conflict. According to AtE1, I am a toxic obnoxious asshole who must be yeeted to make the game playable because I refuse to consider Shirou town. The second part says if I am actually reconsidering then I must be a backpedaling scumbag because how could someone who is that sure decide to change his mind?

Like what the fuck is that? So I'm a dickhead if I don't change my mind but i'm a scumbag if I do change my mind? Sounds like he just wants me dead no matter what. Why can't town!pooky change his mind on Shirou?

The goal of these two pieces of AtE are to make the case that Pooky should die

regardless

of what Pooky actually does.

My actions are not actually important here - his framing is that I should be killed regardless of what my actions are because I'm either scum, bad, or obnoxious no matter what path I take.

I don't see how this view can possibly come from a town player because like what does he actually want? He says in ATE part 1 that he thinks im probably town but i've made the game so unplayable for him and others that I must be yeeted because I refuse to ever reconsider him- and he says in ATE 2 that if I do reconsider then I'm backpedaling scum who is trying to get out of 1v1ing him with a direct challenge. This mindset doesn't make actual sense from town POV. What is Town Him actually supposed to want here IF he thinks I'm town? The obvious answer is for me[pooky] to give him[shirou] a chance to prove he's town.

What is the reasonable offer for him to make to me here? it's p simple I'll explain it below:



"Hi Pooky, I know you think I'm mafia, you're wrong, I am a pretty good scumhunter tho and I think ____ is mafia so I'm willing to make you a deal, you work with me just on this one lim, give me a chance to get a baddie and let's go from there ok? This game is nightless so it sucks ass to bus but I think you'll agree I should be given at least one shot to nail some bad guys"

Instead his entire narrative arc towards me is to paint himself as some kind of victim of my obnoxious push that overarches the entire game and makes it unplayable for him.

But look at what is actually happening in the game and you tell me if my "pressure" on him is actually making it unplayable for him.

Am I actually voting for Shirou? Is lots of people lining up to vote shirou? The answer is a resounding no - it is literally impossible for this to happen. It's pretty easy for him to simply ignore me and scumhunt on his own.

He complains about the structure of the game being that I can simply hijack it with challenging him immediately. Except like why is this a concern? I can't challenge him right now and if he developed a scumread on someone, he can simply challenge them before I challenge him. In fact he can even declare to me something along the lines of "DO NOT CHALLENGE ME POOKY I WILL CHALLENGE SOMEONE ELSE FIRST AND IT SHOULD BE THE SAME TO YOU"

If he wanted to make sure I don't challenge him or interfere with his desire to play the game his way.

Instead he feels incredible pressure and says I am being unplayable levels of toxic to him. Which like ok but how does that make sense?

If there is anything you do read this last part of analysis

Why is Pooky calling Shirou scum over and over again

"I didn't even wanted to do this pooky but you're being unplayable levels of obnoxious this game and this is coming from ME, SHIROU"

why is he saying that to me.

I am not voting for Shirou. I can't vote for Shirou. In fact the likely lim person today is me, not Shirou. so why is it that he considers my pressure on him unbearable and making the game obnoxious and toxic for HIM.

Put yourself in his shoes. Why is Pooky saying this making HIM feel the need to pull out all this ATE.

If Pooky is

mafia

then this pressure literally means NOTHING to him because Pooky flips before Shirou does.

If Shirou is

uninformed

of Pooky's alignment and actually thinks Pooky could be scumclaiming by backpedalling or w/e nonsense he wrote - then he shouldn't CARE about Pooky's pressure because the pressure can't

actually do anything to him

Shirou can't be voted right now! Pooky is like 2-3 votes from flipping. There's no actual need to deal with scum!pooky, just flip him and laugh at him.

I believe Shirou

knows

that I am flipping as town and that is why my pressure on him is like an unbearable anvil to him - he knows what I flip as and he is pissed off he can't convince me that he is town and he's going to have to bear that and that's why he's been so upset at me saying he's scum.

because he knows that I am going to flip as town and theres a good chance he gets flipped right afterwards if people listen to me.

That's why he's screaming that I'm making the game unplayable levels of toxic or obnoxious or w/e then he has the excuse that I deserved to be limmed for being an obnoxious asshole post my flip and I shouldnt be listened to.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pookers you don't like Furtive either?

yea

[furtiveglance]

if i flip town and furtive tries to eliminate Titus, murder Furtive first

bet
call
done deal

you can't call me when you literally don't have the votes

it's like calling a bet with no money

Spoiler: meme

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I said if you try to murder Titus after my town flip you doofus

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes yes yes yes

A thousand times yes

I scumread you both and the voting fits

the point I am making is that you are making a linked scumread - you are saying Titus+Pooky = a scumteam and Titus is voting me because she is scum motivated to save her scum teammate[Pooky]

So if I flip as TOWN

you should not be pushing Titus anymore because the very basis of your linked scumread fell apart and you need to re-evaluate Titus.

If you just ignore my townflip and push Titus anyway you're scumclaiming.

This literally has nothing to do with my scumread on Shirou/Alisae

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you just go "well I was wrong on Pooky but Titus is obvscum" so lets yeet Titus that shows you're not really playing this game from a place of figuring things out - you're just checking off boxes of people you think you can vote out.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can you explain why you scumread me?

[furtiveglance]

I do scumread Titus either way, but if you flip town I'll push for the flips you want first

[furtiveglance]

can you explain why you scumread me?

Mostly for your progression on Alisae who I townread, I also think you're trying to spam up the game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're trying to spam up the game

why is this scum indicative for me

[Alisae]

Mostly for your progression on Alisae who I townread

elaborate

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Mostly for your progression on Alisae who I townread

so you townread Alisae, but you're willing to yeet Alisae if I flip town.

You think my progression on alisae comes from a scum player, but if I flip as town then it must be better than your read on Alisae?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like why is it that Pooky!town is misreading Alisae!town is not a consideration for you? and why is my read better than yours?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm having a really hard time understanding how you can simultaneously believe:


(1) I have a good townread on Alisae, Pooky's scumread on Alisae makes Pooky scum because my read is right and only a scum would have the progression Pooky has on Alisae.
(2) but if Pooky flips scum, my townread on Alisae was wrong and Alisae is now mafia and needs to be yeeted.

[furtiveglance]

Mostly for your progression on Alisae who I townread

so you townread Alisae, but you're willing to yeet Alisae if I flip town.

You think my progression on alisae comes from a scum player, but if I flip as town then it must be better than your read on Alisae?

I don't think you flip town so I'm willing to promise anything

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so why promise anything at all

[Alisae]

We want to give off the illusion that we care about dead player's reads
duh