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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:17 pm

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In post 20, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 19, Doctor Drew wrote:I would like to point out that Not Known has yet to post here, obv caught scum and is scared to defend themselves.

And Furtive casually making sure the wifom is strong, that certainly is a thing.
1) Good point, I see you're an excellent scumhunter

2) This my first time in the 'Mayfair Club', so I...had to do it to 'em.

I have my moments.

Also, do your normally point people to your wiki of games played?
No. I recently made it
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:17 pm

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In post 23, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 22, Enchant wrote:I know only 3 people in this player list. Well, i didn't include myself and my mafia teammate.


So anyway, should we share PR picks? I think it helps town more than mafia.
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Gun to your head, Furtive scum......yes or no?
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:50 pm

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In post 22, Enchant wrote:I know only 3 people in this player list. Well, i didn't include myself and my mafia teammate.


So anyway, should we share PR picks? I think it helps town more than mafia.
I thought Enchant might have been being sarcastic here, but I'm thinking there could be some merit to sharing mafia picks. After all, Mafia already know what they are.

I did 2 town 1 mafia for my picks, and the mafia was a Strongman
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:27 am

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In post 23, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 22, Enchant wrote:I know only 3 people in this player list. Well, i didn't include myself and my mafia teammate.


So anyway, should we share PR picks? I think it helps town more than mafia.
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Gun to your head, Furtive scum......yes or no?
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In post 24, Aureal wrote:Explain why you think sharing role picks helps town, please?
So we know what setup we can have.
Mafia of course will also know though.

I think this knowledge useful to us more.


I don't really have mafia picks.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:02 am

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In post 28, Enchant wrote:
In post 23, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 22, Enchant wrote:I know only 3 people in this player list. Well, i didn't include myself and my mafia teammate.


So anyway, should we share PR picks? I think it helps town more than mafia.
*side eye intensifies*

Gun to your head, Furtive scum......yes or no?
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In post 24, Aureal wrote:Explain why you think sharing role picks helps town, please?
So we know what setup we can have.
Mafia of course will also know though.

I think this knowledge useful to us more.


I don't really have mafia picks.
Don't really? We were told to send in 3 roles, were yours all town?
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:05 am

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In post 22, Enchant wrote:So anyway, should we share PR picks? I think it helps town more than mafia.
Does it, really?
Well, yes, but not fully.
We should share ambiguous and Mafia-only picks, I think, EXCEPT ambiguous investigation roles.
But should we really share town-only roles? What's the benefit of that that outweighs the info we give to scum?
And identifying the invest roles is of course a big no because it could give extremely useful info to scum.

I submitted three roles.

Mafia Goon and two others.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:07 am

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I have 1 which can be only town.
1 which are more likely town, but CAN be issued to Mafia.
And 1 which is meme and can go in any team.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:31 am

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I think sharing setup info day1 is bad because it allows scum to better allocate night resources such as a roleblock or rolestop based on who they think might have an investigative role and who might be likely to target them. Sharing what roles we sent in day2 is something I have far fewer qualms about.
tl;dr sharing roles day1 reduces potential anti-scum swing by allowing scum an opportunity to have stronger counter play against town investigative roles n1
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:35 am

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In post 18, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 17, bugspray wrote:VOTE: furtive caught scum
Go on then

Back yourself
The light-hearted defence here heavily contrasts the more apparently serious previous posts. Are all serious responses to interactions which merit them. We do see a few more light hearted posts by furtive such as and but they are light hearted in response to light hearted things. The light hearted response to my serious accusation of caught scum is a notable change in emotional tempo.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:39 am

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The seriousness I mean in 8 is the matter of fact analysis of the lack of third parties and amount of scum in the setup which is something that should be obvious anyway. It makes for good busywork to appear you are helping town while providing nothing of substantial value.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:53 am

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I'm not really liking this. I don't see the wisdom in letting Mafia know any more about the possible setup, such as whether they could be blocked or such. And I don't really expect them to be truthful about what they submitted, so we could get bamboozled thinking we can't possibly have Mafia with certain abilities.

VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:53 am

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Spoiler: Pick which i made as meme:
JOAT (Neighborizer, Weak Neighborizer, Disloyal Neighborizer, Simple Neighborizer)


Other two i will hold for a moment.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:53 am

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In post 35, Aureal wrote:I'm not really liking this. I don't see the wisdom in letting Mafia know any more about the possible setup, such as whether they could be blocked or such. And I don't really expect them to be truthful about what they submitted, so we could get bamboozled thinking we can't possibly have Mafia with certain abilities.

VOTE: Enchant
I don't see you calling me mafia though.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:39 am

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Interesting response to an early game vote. Did I miss a rule saying you have to call someone Mafia before voting them?
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:57 am

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In post 38, Aureal wrote:Interesting response to an early game vote. Did I miss a rule saying you have to call someone Mafia before voting them?
Well yes, this vote is not really RVS and just sounds like excuse to vote something.

Other players expressed disagreement on
suggestion
more adequatelly.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:50 am

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In post 37, Enchant wrote:
In post 35, Aureal wrote:I'm not really liking this. I don't see the wisdom in letting Mafia know any more about the possible setup, such as whether they could be blocked or such. And I don't really expect them to be truthful about what they submitted, so we could get bamboozled thinking we can't possibly have Mafia with certain abilities.

VOTE: Enchant
I don't see you calling me mafia though.
gtfo with that weak and sassy deflection
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:06 am

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In post 40, bugspray wrote:
In post 37, Enchant wrote:
In post 35, Aureal wrote:I'm not really liking this. I don't see the wisdom in letting Mafia know any more about the possible setup, such as whether they could be blocked or such. And I don't really expect them to be truthful about what they submitted, so we could get bamboozled thinking we can't possibly have Mafia with certain abilities.

VOTE: Enchant
I don't see you calling me mafia though.
gtfo with that weak and sassy deflection
Ok

VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:07 am

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Yes there's a rule saying you have to call someone Mafia before voting them? OK, I await mod intervention on that. Not holding my breath though. :lol:

Do you really think I'm supposed to be no more suspicious of you and your suggestion without explanation than I was of Drew? Particularly given how its form shifted, and you're being inconsistent about what sort of picks you had?
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:08 am

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In post 40, bugspray wrote:
In post 37, Enchant wrote:
In post 35, Aureal wrote:I'm not really liking this. I don't see the wisdom in letting Mafia know any more about the possible setup, such as whether they could be blocked or such. And I don't really expect them to be truthful about what they submitted, so we could get bamboozled thinking we can't possibly have Mafia with certain abilities.

VOTE: Enchant
I don't see you calling me mafia though.
gtfo with that weak and sassy deflection
Seriously, I don't anyone at this point can honestly say they caught scum. They can however use the power of voting to analyze reactions.....and that reaction pings a couple things.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:08 am

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In post 42, Aureal wrote: Do you really think I'm supposed to be no more suspicious of you and your suggestion without explanation than I was of Drew? Particularly given how its form shifted, and you're being inconsistent about what sort of picks you had?
Explain this
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:09 am

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*I don't think....get used to these edits from me lol
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:13 am

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In post 42, Aureal wrote:Yes there's a rule saying you have to call someone Mafia before voting them? OK, I await mod intervention on that. Not holding my breath though. :lol:

You disagreed with my stance it's fine.

Voting me implues you think i am mafia. But there's nothing you said about this. So you just vote me because you disagree with my stance, without regard if i am mafia or town.

So my question is valid.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:16 am

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I think enchant and aureal cannot be SvS here
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:25 am

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In post 47, bugspray wrote:I think enchant and aureal cannot be SvS here
Hmm, you've never faked a fight as scum on D1?
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:46 am

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It doesn't look like an SvS fight
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