"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
pooky should die because i townread alisae and he scumreads alisae and im right and hes lying scum for having a different read on alisae than me.
but if pooky flips town then my read is wrong and his read is right and we should flip alisae.
it completely doesnt consider that Pooky!town could be wrongly scumreading Alisae!town
also it makes no sense to believe in your read so much that you think someone who doesnt share the read is scum for having a different read but also think their read is right and your read is wrong in the event that they get flipped as scum.
its such prototypical cartoon villain mustache twirling villain shit. like you are just trying to set up a town flip to another town flip while laughing to yourself
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
your other piece of reasoning is that i am scum for "spamming" up the game
this doesnt consider any other motivation i could have for posting a lot
such as like being really happy to play or having fun or having a lot of free time
it also has no meta basis in reality for example analyzing volume difference between my town/scum games which p much always skews towards me posting way more as town than scum.
i dont actually think you believe me posting more = me being scum. i think its just a thing you threw in because you wanted to complain about how much i was posting.
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
In post 1829, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it completely doesnt consider that Pooky!town could be wrongly scumreading Alisae!town
No it doesn't, because it's simpler to look at the game in terms of opposing reads for me. Are you suggesting that considering you/Alisae T/T would just revert my thoughts on the game to 'hmm could be anything really, anyone could be mafia'?
Your professed read on Alisae was so strong that based on your experience with em, I thought on the offchance that I was wrong about you, you would be right about em.
In post 1832, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont actually think you believe me posting more = me being scum. i think its just a thing you threw in because you wanted to complain about how much i was posting
At the time the game was borderline unreadable. I think spamming up the game is a valid and real scum strategy
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
I'm gunna push back on the claim that the game was ever borderline unreadable.
There's been lots of posts in this game yes but I think there has been next to no spam. The signal to noise ratio in this game is actually ridiculously high and I don't know why you would complain about that as town, but it sure does seem like a convenient thing to repeatedly mention as scum, which is weird because I've seen you play town a bunch in games that had plenty of posting in them and I don't think I've seen you have that particular complaint before.
i.e. it feels like the situation is the same that I've seen furtive in before but he's reacting differently which makes me think theres a motivational shift.
Like describing valid game posts as "spam" is a tactic I've seen scum take a lot to control thread narrative but I think its absurd here because what spam has happened in this game? Lots of substantive game posts is not spam.
Like we've played together 3 times now and my posting patterns are exactly the same in those games in that they are quite high but you sniped at me for it here whereas you've never even mentioned it before so along with the whole just complaining about no one "doing anything" when you're not doing anything yourself and there is nothing to DO seems like they're convenient hooks for you to latch on to in order to avoid doing or saying anything substantive while still remaining engaged in the thread.
Off the top of my head I can't really think of any strong stance you've taken this game whatsoever that wasn't directed at someone who was pushing you except for these OOG complaints about spam and no one "doing anything" both of which you've immediately backed off of when I pushed back on them.
In post 1841, Thestatusquo wrote:Off the top of my head I can't really think of any strong stance you've taken this game whatsoever that wasn't directed at someone who was pushing you except for these OOG complaints about spam and no one "doing anything" both of which you've immediately backed off of when I pushed back on them.
I've had stances on Cakez/Pooky unprompted
As for being reactive towards Freedom/Alisae, sometimes scum pushing you is how you get the best reads
In post 1843, Thestatusquo wrote:so you have takes on 2 players in the game? Maybe 4 if we include the universe of people who are directly saying you're scum?
I think I made a readslist at one point
I think you and Gamma are town
STD could be town I'm not sure how to read him ever
Haschel can't get a read on
PenguinPower haven't seen in a bit
T-Bone is just talking about Shirou and winding me up, could be town because he feels like Cosmos
my problem is I think you're trying to fake the "townie who is annoyed at the game state" thing but you're not pulling it off because I would expect a townie to react by a stalled game state by trying to reevaluate and push things to find stuff out but you don't seem interested in finding things to help you sort so much as complain about stuff that is ostensibly keeping you from sorting but imo should actually be helping you sort because theres a whole bunch of stuff to sort here.
IMO this differentiates you a little bit from Alisae who is also doing the whole "I'm completely lost" thing but actually does seem to be trying to do a few things to maybe get unlost which I think is the most townie thing they've done this game.
In post 1845, Thestatusquo wrote:my problem is I think you're trying to fake the "townie who is annoyed at the game state" thing but you're not pulling it off because I would expect a townie to react by a stalled game state by trying to reevaluate and push things to find stuff out but you don't seem interested in finding things to help you sort so much as complain about stuff that is ostensibly keeping you from sorting but imo should actually be helping you sort because theres a whole bunch of stuff to sort here.
IMO this differentiates you a little bit from Alisae who is also doing the whole "I'm completely lost" thing but actually does seem to be trying to do a few things to maybe get unlost which I think is the most townie thing they've done this game.
I don't think I can read harder into the same stuff
My thoughts aren't clear or confident at all and this game is weird
In post 1795, Thestatusquo wrote:I like i just looked back and i see shirou was in the "possible 2 wolves here" pile but i guess i didn't clock it really because again it seems to me like they've been on the same side in most arguments so i am actually not sure why i didn't notice this at the time because that read feels weird too.
There are 13 other players and I've sorted at least half of them into a lean town or scum so that's a completely incorrect statement of my play Furtive and I feel like you should know better.