i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[UltimateGamer]

Why, what's your role?

I'd rather not claim if I can help it? It's just not one I've seen. Not SUPER crazy but when I saw it I was like "huh that's unusual"

It implies the existence of a different roll and claiming THAT could screw someone here up.

[Elements]

that's fun
want to vote McMenno?

[Gimli]

Anyway, who are we voting for Ranger today Gimli?

Please don't sheep me I'm awful. Im townreading ranger too so I'd probably go elsewhere with my vote today. Might as well sheep elements or furtive.

[Gimli]

I forgot if I think elements is town or not, this game has been locked for far too long

[UltimateGamer]

I forgot if I think elements is town or not, this game has been locked for far too long

Honestly this. I can't remember half of my reads from the day before.

[Elements]

You all thought I was town enough to not get shot by a vig, but scummy enough to not get killed by scum

[Gimli]

What do we think of quiet owl? His post at daystart was bad

[UltimateGamer]

What do we think of quiet owl? His post at daystart was bad

I agree their daystart wasn't great and their actions yesterday weren't thrilling me either. The more they were pressed the more "annoyed townie" side came out but... Still doesn't completely sit right with me.

[McMenno]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because I'd just target some townie that we weren't touching that night.

I thought my role seemed odd.

Anyway, who are we voting for Ranger today Gimli?

there's multiple kills. multiple scumkills! it makes perfect sense.

[furtiveglance]

What do we think of quiet owl? His post at daystart was bad

I'm trying to remember why I thought they were town

Been a long time

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: UltimateGamer
Conceding to a Ranger townlean, at least until she returns from her reread.

[UltimateGamer]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because I'd just target some townie that we weren't touching that night.

I thought my role seemed odd.

Anyway, who are we voting for Ranger today Gimli?

there's multiple kills. multiple scumkills! it makes perfect sense.

Wait am I missing something? How do we know there's multiple scumkills? I kinda assumed the multiple kills at night were from SK or vig.

[Elements]

UNVOTE:

[furtiveglance]

I might have scumsided more than I thought

VOTE: Quiet Owl

[McMenno]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because I'd just target some townie that we weren't touching that night.

I thought my role seemed odd.

Anyway, who are we voting for Ranger today Gimli?

there's multiple kills. multiple scumkills! it makes perfect sense.

Wait am I missing something? How do we know there's multiple scumkills? I kinda assumed the multiple kills at night were from SK or vig.

do you think the SK is strongman? we already have a flipped (heavily limited) vig, I don't think there's a second, especially not one that kills each night

[furtiveglance]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because I'd just target some townie that we weren't touching that night.

I thought my role seemed odd.

Anyway, who are we voting for Ranger today Gimli?

there's multiple kills. multiple scumkills! it makes perfect sense.

Wait am I missing something? How do we know there's multiple scumkills? I kinda assumed the multiple kills at night were from SK or vig.

The word scumkills usually includes/implies SK, at least to me

[UltimateGamer]

Ooooh okay if that's what they meant that makes sense

[Gimli]

VOTE: quiet owl

[UltimateGamer]

I think I'm okay with the quiet owl wagon. I'd wanna iso them again to make sure. I was pretty darn sure at one point yesterday and then kinda backed off and I don't remember why I kinda backed off.

[Titus]

Feeling rather ill. I'll try to look at some VCA though.

[imaginality]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

[/ quote]

I noticed kitten around fencesat on you/Ythan several times (998,1097, 1836).

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because

I'd just target

some townie that we weren't touching that night.

This whole paragraph is pointless speculation that won't be solved til postgame and doesn't matter either way. The use of "I'd" is interesting to me given the rest of the paragraph is third person - seems like a slip maybe? Though I do tend to place too much weight in those sorts of things. However I do think kitten's approach to your slot is suspicious.

VOTE: UltimateGamer

It was also interesting to note kitten around townread three known town players early on D1. Also townread bianca/Gamma and CSF who've also flipped town, and was quick to believe Titus and me on the mason claim. So seens like a player who tries to get town cred with good reads and let town (or other scum) drive mislims.

By contrast kitten said either Prince or MathBlade is scum, and "one of" Prince, McMenno or lycan.

I feel suspicious of Prince based on that. Also because I lean town on lycan.

With trying to read McMenno I don't know what's more likely, would kitten try to get McMenno limmed instead of themselves if McMenno is town or if McMenno is scum, for bussing credit?

Kitten seems to have studiously avoided giving a read on Ranger which definitely doesn't ease my suspicions of Ranger.

I think there are multiple scum among:

Math, Elements, furtive
UG, Prince, Ranger

Not sure whether to add Owl in, on the one hand kitten did seem to defend Owl and try to slow a wagon on Owl D1, on the other hand kitten's reaction to being suspected for the confused townread on Owl seems a bit like scum annoyed at being caught for the wrong reasons which would point to Owl being town?

[Elements]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

[Elements]

Probably shouldn't have done that
Oh well, this is what impulsiveness gets you
Time to go order a board game

[Gimli]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

Omg

I think he is town though, hope I'm wrong

[Gimli]

I think the way owl treated kittens might mean he is mafia with kittens but I'm going to argue this point later (a few RL days from now hopefully)