HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[furtiveglance]

2.08

Votecount 2.08

HighPrincessErinys (3):

Titus, Killing Joke, Gamma Emerald.

Elements (3):

BlueBloodedToffee, Eiralox, Gimli.

Killing Joke (1):

HighPrincessErinys.

Eiralox (1):

Radical Rat.

Not Voting (6):

Enchant, Bellaphant, Flea The Magician, ActionDan, Malakittens, Elements.

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to eliminate someone.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-01-29 17:30:00).

Co-Mod Notes

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[Gamma Emerald]

Elements, basically, has shared no results. So anyone, you Rat, taking them at face value are weird in my books.

Titus had two freaking results, and both check out cos both Joke and Elements have claimed after Titus came in.

Joke claimed before?

[Eiralox]

And like, I want to wait for Elly’s reply before drawing a conclusion

Fair, I also want this.


I just have a feeling we're gonna be disappointed though.

[Eiralox]

Elements, basically, has shared no results. So anyone, you Rat, taking them at face value are weird in my books.

Titus had two freaking results, and both check out cos both Joke and Elements have claimed after Titus came in.

Joke claimed before?

I'm very sure Harely's 'We are Lyal Crew' came way before, yes. Lemme tabulate.

[Radical Rat]

Suppose Elements is telling the truth. Compare what we gain from having that knowledge to what scum gains.

Now suppose they're lying. Whoever they claim to have targeted can't be trusted anyway in that case.

Either way, someone gets forced into a position of claiming to validate the result, and scum's ability to kill PRs is bolstered. This is bad for Town and as such, until the result becomes relevant we do not need to know it.

[Gimli]

I think she botched the claim by assuming KJ would be a goon

Then this is very poorly phrased

Yeah okay but surely you understand what I'm saying

[Gamma Emerald]

TFW I’ve burned half my posts in around 24 hours
hopefully my new job mellows me out a bit
If I start doing single-post-reply catch-ups someone stop me pls

[Gimli]

2.08

Votecount 2.08

HighPrincessErinys (3):

Titus, Killing Joke, Gamma Emerald.

Elements (3):

BlueBloodedToffee, Eiralox, Gimli.

Killing Joke (1):

HighPrincessErinys.

Eiralox (1):

Radical Rat.

Not Voting (6):

Enchant, Bellaphant, Flea The Magician, ActionDan, Malakittens, Elements.

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to eliminate someone.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-01-29 17:30:00).

Co-Mod Notes

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• Squawk

Yes. Much earlier. I quoted recently too when Harley says they're VT

[Eiralox]

I am concerned because Elements expressed he was poisoned. I know we both visited KJ.

KJ visited no one.

I visit someone and determine who they visited and who visited them.

Elements should claim what he did.

Where? Link/Quote? Wtf Eira?

Titus soft innoed us and my only regret is that she’s not an AC.

Like seriously if people are still going to run us up even after getting soft inno’d and like I said, no one is listening to me/going to listen to me. If people are okay with adding us to the list of miselims and yes we massively contributed and yes we were wrong but if people are hellbent on miselimmig us, I don’t gaf. And Joker will probably get us miselimed since people are wrongly sr his playstyle.

VOTE: KJ


We’re VT. Joker was trying to bait the nk.

I'm a vanilla parity cop
pick two and learn if there is exactly 1 pr between them

Yup long long after

[HighPrincessErinys]

UNVOTE: KJ This one is no longer super sure on what to make of things and will be busy for the next few hours so uh. Will try and make sense of the situation more then.

[Eiralox]

Suppose Elements is telling the truth. Compare what we gain from having that knowledge to what scum gains.

Now suppose they're lying. Whoever they claim to have targeted can't be trusted anyway in that case.

Either way, someone gets forced into a position of claiming to validate the result, and scum's ability to kill PRs is bolstered. This is bad for Town and as such, until the result becomes relevant we do not need to know it.

Elements has no validated results, basically. They're going off Joke after they claimed.

So why are you believing them this much?

The only way to prove they are indeed what they say they are is to share the second result.

If they don't, we can't be sure. Simple As.

But you remain adamant they're right?

Without verifiable results?


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Killing Joke: I'm Loyal Crew

Elements: I'm a thing I know Killing Joke is Vanilla
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No results. Elements can be anything.

[Titus]

I think KJ is a mafia goon

And someone else is vt but I won't say who

I'm a vanilla parity cop
pick two and learn if there is exactly 1 pr between them

This is bad play IMO.

[Eiralox]

Bless the seas!

[Radical Rat]

Yeah, it's possible they're lying. In which case, why does them claiming the second target prove anything? Why can't they lie twice?

[Eiralox]

Why not?

It'll be fun.

[Titus]

Dumb question, but wouldn't the logical action be to target Mala and KJ? If that's the case, then why wouldn't Elements say that?

I'll pop in on occasion maybe. Feeling ill.

[Radical Rat]

I'm also not nearly as adamant as you make me out to be. I've simply weighed the options, and think that Town is more likely, and that going through and forcing out more claims is going to hurt more than it helps.

Best course of action is to accept the claim as it is for now, and come back to it if new information contradicts things.

[Eiralox]

KJ claimed.

Mala claims not to have believed.

Someone else asked why not Mala.

Elements said.... I'm gonna lie I don't remember but it was kinda a weird reason? But not something I'm really looking at in this case.

[Eiralox]

I'm also not nearly as adamant as you make me out to be. I've simply weighed the options, and think that Town is more likely, and that going through and forcing out more claims is going to hurt more than it helps.

Best course of action is to accept the claim as it is for now, and come back to it if new information contradicts things.

You do you.

I wanna find the muteys.

[Eiralox]

KJ claimed.

Mala claims not to have believed.

Someone else asked why not Mala.

Elements said.... I'm gonna lie I don't remember but it was kinda a weird reason? But not something I'm really looking at in this case.

*Elements claims.


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Enough!

[Gimli]

Best course of action is to accept the claim as it is for now,

Best course of action is throwing elements off the boat

[Radical Rat]

Dumb question, but wouldn't the logical action be to target Mala and KJ? If that's the case, then why wouldn't Elements say that?

I'll pop in on occasion maybe. Feeling ill.

That would have been optimal probably, but I don't think failing to play optimally is a scum indicator. Especially since scum could have also claimed to have done that, so it's more likely it just genuinely didn't occur to them.

[Eiralox]

Why you didn't target claimed Miller as well then

I don't scumread Mala

[Gimli]

Why you didn't target claimed Miller as well then

I don't scumread Mala

Lol

[Gimli]

Eira and Titus saved the gameday I think <3