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[Taly]

everyone has a reason to vote penguin

oh do we now?

i need to go sleep now

i'll be back to post gifs at some point

VOTE: taly

sir you come for my life and then seal the deal with a gif

Just start bolding names and commit to the flashwagon

[Taly]

it's 1 AM and I'm a grad student who has therapy in 10 hrs

nighties

[Taly]

cause reads D1 are usually built off arbitrary measurements of sincerity that are too subjective to be as generalized as they are and some argue that it informs scum who best to NK

Now I think the exact opposite can be argued in town's favor, so i wonder why you wanted me to describe why it's a

bad

idea? that's an interesting narrow of dialogue options.

Ok I have to actually sleep now

[Taly]

@Taly i'm churros/bunno idk if you remember me

Yes, I remember you fondly, hello again

Kow has too many votes for this early. Got my eye on Penguin,red, Klick, and andante. Likely at least one scum on there.

I'm at work, so this is all I'll be able to say for the next fivish hours.

Then let's do something about it

VOTE: PenguinPower

[Taly]

Kow has too many votes for this early. Got my eye on Penguin,red, Klick, and andante. Likely at least one scum on there.

I'm at work, so this is all I'll be able to say for the next fivish hours.

Red and Andante seem okay rn
Other 2 idk

I don't like Gryff's post but Gamma's is not much better. This legitimises poor scum hunting

What do you think of

Gamma

taking

Red

and

Andante

out of that pool?

[Taly]

Question, why does this game feel so slow? There's literally only 2 posts I like so far, and the rest of yall are just like "sup I'm here"

I liked gamma going "I had this thought so I figured I'd say it" love that!!
and redFF's post seemed good, a bit of effort put in and I felt like it was trying to help me make sense of the "all should post reads" - yeah when in doubt I go "not AI"


and then we have everyone else.. like yall!!! LET'S PLAY MAFIA!!!! I'm excited!!!
Kowahbunga is probably 1 mafia
this game is too easy!! although... it is a little easier when I have friends talking/doing stuff lol

What were you expecting from page 1?

[Taly]

hi yeah thanks, im trying haha

[Taly]

Hmmm

VOTE: GamerGryff

[Taly]

Penguin

, has your read on

Kow

evolved beyond wagon competition?

[Taly]

Join me, mortal,

and maybe the gates of hell

will soon not open to consume us all.

[/center]

[Taly]

خرخرة الشيطان

[Taly]

FUCK I had a good question for

Kowa

and forgot due to site going down

[Taly]

Oh my god it's 2 AM

Biiiiiiiiiiiiii

[Taly]

Brick

, this is your third game ever, correct?

geraintm

you seem pretty unbothered.

[Taly]

I'll be straightforward:

In 123, you said nobody can give off a real scum ping in D1 to

Gamer

.

Later with 151, you agreed with

Herta

that it's easier to catch you as scum earlier.

You followed that up 152 with ending the day quickly and placed a vote.

This reads as deflective because you're comfortable with getting a pass for now off the basis of a real scum ping on you, but you're fine with eliminating another player without that.

The mismatch in expectation gave me pause.

[Taly]

Later with 151, you agreed with

Herta

that it's easier to catch you as scum earlier.

no, i said the exact opposite. i believe i am easy to spot a scum in the late game, but i suggest that someone checks me over tonight so we avoid all that because people have found me hard to play against as scum for some reason and i want to not have that happen this game

oh
you meant "checked" as in a night action

[Taly]

@PP

91

we got good traction on

gamer

me no want unvote

[Taly]

happy bday

andante

how do you feel about the votes on

gamer

?

-

pedit

seems we're on the same page

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@PP

91<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">we got good traction on

gamer

me no want unvote<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">What's the reasoning for a gamer vote?

I agree with

Gamer's

philosophy that a lot of noise can make it difficult to sort D1 and in reflection for later dayphases, but this and coupled with the indifference to

Kowabungah

wagon without really asserting a stance or push gave me "active but coasting" vibe.

So that gave me "I wanna poke" vibe.

Also, I was voting

Gamer

prior to

Geraint

, so it's never accurate to describe my vote as sheeping here.

[Taly]

LOL i am confused about something most of the time i open a mafia thread

[Taly]

I thought of waiting for

Gamer

to bite but there's no point now:

do you have any above rand reads,

Gamer

?

[Taly]

Andante

, it's heavy-handed to say I scumread players, my votes are more to solve right now than to

"I want to stupidly rush into things and kill players"

(Borrowing words from another person)

Plus, I'm satisfied with

Geraint's

reply, I misinterpret people over the internet often.

Gamer

, I fail understand how no-limming is ever productive because it forbids the town of evaluating their own conclusions. Furthermore, it gives less content to the NK.

I don't think it is fair of you to say

"if you eliminate me, you prove me right"

when I've only asked you what your reads are.

Also, I never said my intention was to end the day quickly.

Ugh, I wish people read my posts.

[Taly]

Herta

, enlist me. Ask me questions or tell me to do something.

You're the most familiar to me on this list.

[Taly]

Herta

, enlist me. Ask me questions or tell me to do something.

You're the most familiar to me on this list.

I'm going back and forth on Gamma. She seems subdued to me. In my experience she's much more aggressive.

I thought the post about making reads lists was okay, I guess, but in retrospect I wonder if it wasn't front loading content given we haven't seen much since.

Am I missing something?

I haven't thought much about

Gamma

because I don't think they've produced much of note relative to other players.

Gamma's

tone range is large independent of alignment.

This is also a prompt for

Gamma

to interject.

Kow has too many votes for this early. Got my eye on Penguin,red, Klick, and andante. Likely at least one scum on there.

I'm at work, so this is all I'll be able to say for the next fivish hours.

Red and Andante seem okay rn
Other 2 idk

I don't like Gryff's post but Gamma's is not much better. This legitimises poor scum hunting

What do you think of

Gamma

taking

Red

and

Andante

out of that pool?

This post. What is your answer to your question?

I posited SvS defense somewhere but figured distancing was more likely for scumbuddies early in the game, and other than fluffiness, I don't have a reason to suspect

Gamma

, so it seemed reachy to follow that.

[Taly]

I'd remove

Brickwall

, their syntax relative to their experience does not ring as scum-indicative. I can't explain it better, so take it with a grain of salt.

Why

Shirou

?

I don't have additions at the moment.

I like

Penguin

for town, I'd gatekeep that.

[Taly]

What argument do you have for

Haschel

or

redFF

to be in that pool?

[Taly]

im emotionally wrecked after therapy and can afford, and am taking a mental health day

so someone just hmu with questions so there isnt stagnation

i feel pretty satisfied with

gryff

reads UNVOTE: , this doesnt reflect a read per se, the vote just has lost its purpose.

[Taly]

*puts Brickwall into a box and Gamma into another*

[Taly]

Hi taly, how can i jog your memory for that question you wanted to ask me?

what are your reads or thoughts outside of

Andante

? your ISO is centered around that read so far

[Taly]

Taly, what are your thoughts around Geraintm's post 294? He gets checked N1 but holds off and performs an action N2 instead. Looks clean but clever scum play?

I mean,

Geraint's

assertion about previous games is true regardless of his alignment here, so it's a fluffy post. Both town and scum like to give their histories based on what most often happens to them -- I do this too. For it to hold water is circumstantial. I'd rather

Geraint

focus less on how others react to him and him reacting to others.

[Taly]

VOTE: kow

not liking the uptick in vanities

Do you think

geraintm's

posts are vanity?

[Taly]

oh shit

[Taly]

Yeah Gryff reads as hard town to me

Is it really just the lack of fear from getting scumread that supports this?

Gamma

, how do you feel about

Kow

?

i'm def not trying to effort too much here mhm

wanna vibe

do u guys wanna vibe

only if you're town

shirou

sad if not

[Taly]

I'm losing conviction in any wagon like every other non-micro game I play in.

There's a lack of scumreads presented in the thread, may reread the game.

[Taly]

Shirou

majority of your posts regarding reads are

Andante

-town, can you give more than saying it is meta?

[Taly]

Gamma

-scum's a bit more exaggerated and performative. I detected genuine annoyance from

Gamma

with

Brickwall

.

What were the slights about

Gamma[/n] pre-

Brickwall

interaction,

Shirou

?

[Taly]

i fucked up the bold tags, yall can vote me now

[Taly]

Making a more proper response to your recent points Andante
But were people even calling Penguin town? I've read back twice recently and don't remember that being much of a point of discussion but it's entirely possible that I just filtered that info out

I recall saying so earlier and nothing's caused me to doubt that. I'm not following your suspicion there.

[Taly]

I'm juggling a lot with

Geraintm

because I do want to push for non-self-specific content but I don't think a vote will accomplish that.

What bothered you with

Gryff's

posting?

pedit

i think that's it from me, see you all?<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">i saw your question about gamma taly but i'm leaving you to think about why i'm not replying yet

ooh, spicy, k noted

[Taly]

happy bday

shirou

(im heading off tonight)

[Taly]

I don't understand the logic behind no limming D1 but the only time I've seen scum in memory argue for it is later in game or with non-normal mechanics.

Might start a vanity

[Taly]

*squints at

klick

really hard*

[Taly]

Kow

, let's just say we do no-lim, what is the benefit if you don't give content outside of the

Andante

tunnel?

[Taly]

the velocity is surpassing my read rate

but i townlean

kow

, i really doubt scum doubles down on takes that have been widely suspected or rebuked as objectively suboptimal play

[Taly]

hey

klick

, we differ greatly in how we solve

i could use some interaction at the moment

[Taly]

the velocity is surpassing my read rate

but i townlean

kow

, i really doubt scum doubles down on takes that have been widely suspected or rebuked as objectively suboptimal play

What about kow do you townlean?
I'm currently conflicted on something, like are you townleaning the fact Kow keeps pushing for a no lim?
Kow said he's played mafia for 15 years...

I'm townreading the fact that

Kow

has had sustained pressure and isn't bending to anyone else.

It's similar to the reason

Klick

townread

Gryff

but I feel this case holds more water.

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">wait, PENGUIN!!! this is going so fast lol I do want your thoughts, do you think Shirou town? or is vote here ok?<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">sorry - the post in between taly's and mine kinda through off the meaning...if you and taly are town on kow then I'm fine with lumping him in the do not yeet pile.<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">I'm still completely fine with yeeting shirou...prefer klick.

What do you think

Klick

-scum is trying to do right now?

[Taly]

VOTE: Lazy Shirou openly saying you think someone is town and then voting them because they won't comply with your request feels like borderline blackmail...

well, i'm a literal terrorist

klick can confirm that i blackmail people frequently in mafia games

we just got out of white flag game where i kinda blackmailed furtive to vote someone in the next day if i voted with him on that day

blackmail me shirou-kun

[Taly]

i mean, you're correct

Shirou

, i tend to "look busier" as scum than as town rather than "being busy"

but im also pretty bad with reading games in full when the plist is above micro-size, without hyperposters

(i actually have not read most posts in full past page 10, just really conversations ive prompted in some form)

im also not doing the whole "stick-to-1-game" trend anymore, and i got more shit to do IRL, wallposting days are behind me for the foreseeable future.

If you want to discern a more alignment-specific behavior to this "fake read", how about you

push

me to give content or

direct

me somewhere?

(because im kind of skimming otherwise)

[Taly]

Shirou

is shitposting? We reading the same game?

Also I just read the implication of a claim and do not think it is productive to speculate its validity right now.

I also don't think it's ever wise for town to want to get checked because it removes agency for town PR to actually discern the alignment of a more null read.

Same issue I had with

Geraint

[Taly]

I prefer playing town than scum.

*side eye Shirou*

pedit

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

Shirou

is shitposting? We reading the same game?<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">Also I just read the implication of a claim and do not think it is productive to speculate its validity right now.<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">I also don't think it's ever wise for town to want to get checked because it removes agency for town PR to actually discern the alignment of a more null read.<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">Same issue I had with

Geraint

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">Did... Did you not read the first half of their posts?

I did read some posts but retained little to nothing immediately after.

[Taly]

IL be kn tmrw
Had a strong dissociation/derealization bit this morning, just became verbal

[Taly]

firepuppy

ok im better now

[Taly]

the only picture of

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eak

iest

that has graced you is this masterpiece

[Taly]

WHERE IS THE GREEN?

DAMNIT

[Taly]

informed

shoot firepupper

[Taly]

herta

i see a lot of

shirou

associating you with

gamma

and

gryff

but you haven't engaged with that directly

[Taly]

informed

shoot firepupper

WE DID IT REDDIT!!!!!

you're lucky it only works at night

[Taly]

So ive read like the first like 5 pages.
andante is weird try harding almost feels forced.
gamma pushing for reads list was also weird like....in general why is this thing important to push page 1.
Taly i like the most so far and maybe its the sass from taly talking. Which is weird cause i feel this read is just a tone read that is just mood taly in not alignment indicative but im feelin taly town and i skimmed iso fine with that.

VOTE: Gamma
get in the scum pt and talk to me

wish I could :sigh:

On another note
VOTE: GamerGryff

curious, what about

fire's

vote on you prompted you to vote

gryff

?

pedit

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

herta

i see a lot of

shirou

associating you with

gamma

and

gryff

but you haven't engaged with that directly<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">It's like watching someone stuck in a ditch spinning their tires.

what is your read on

gamma/gryff

rn?

pedit # 2

more votes on herta !

you've had this scumread for half the game so far and i still dont know your thought process behind it

what do you think about the idea that

shirou

pushed

herta

scumread not long after you posited

kow/herta/x

?

so now u call urself LHF.<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">as a dear bear would often say:<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">W i l d

fire

you're passing the vibe check for fun and wanting to be here but what about s o l v i n g

gamma

feels fine, i say that without reading the points against that slot tbh, im relying a bit with meta on how

gamma

operates, and that is they usually bloat or flanderize their convictions more as scum.

gamma

-town is more subdued in my experience and that aligns closer to this.

im also side-eye'ing of the slots already giving out associatives

[Taly]

jury is still out

the progression from fluff to heavy solving doesnt strike as sincere as i cant find a link to it, but after thinking about previous games with

shirou

it seems NAI

pending on whether to pursue

[Taly]

VLA until Monday, not a fan of the lim :/ An ISO on

Brick

would be good