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Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:54 pm

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i can be wrong

we all always can be wrong on all sort of things despite what evidence tell us, but the arguably best accuracy reads townie on this site recommended using statical probability about scum reads still

even he, that received the title of "ex-deus machina" for solving entire games on day 1, kinda seemed to believe there's luck involved no matter what in mafia games from his pov

there's always the possibility of what u are seeing is coincidences. RL intereferences. Mood. it's a mystery without necessarily the smoking gun or hard evidence, but when i look at fire/furtive posts in this game i just imagine a council of all town players i admire in my mind and they're all telling me both need to die asap

there's like, crack theories/explanations for those nightkills in this game that no one seems to suspect yet but without looking at meta or going for what is statistically less likely from the get-go, i think the behavior fire/furtive have showed here is so statistically more likely to come from scum than town that
i'm surprised it doesn't seem more of a consensus view

idk

i want to be motivated to play this but i can't when i feel like it's a matter of people just dropping the votes
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Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:56 pm

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VOTE: Fire
I never was voting Shirou today.
Scum shoulda nightkilled either of us when they had the chance.
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Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:56 pm

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In post 2650, Lazy Shirou wrote: i'm surprised it doesn't seem more of a consensus view
maybe it's in fact consensus it's just blegh they aren't dead yet

no one has said anything interesting/i hadn't thought about already since the start of this dayphase

if we can't have a somewhat hardsolve with 100 pages of game content idk man maybe there's something wrong bc many games with this much players aren't as big as that and still result in town wins

p-edit good norwe kill him pls
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Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:01 pm

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I've read some but not all

Don't hammer before I can say my piece.

Going to sleep now
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Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:04 pm

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im worried about the possible world where furtive is town

makes this a loss when it really shouldn't be
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Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:05 pm

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In post 2654, fireisredsir wrote: im worried about the possible world where furtive is town

makes this a loss when it really shouldn't be
'possible world'

No matter the result of this game, I will have things to say in post. Seriously the scumreads on me are next level BS and I can't wait for postgame or dead thread to console me
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Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:06 pm

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ill feel p silly about getting lucian wrong but i think most of those worlds involve scum gimli
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Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:07 pm

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In post 2655, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2654, fireisredsir wrote: im worried about the possible world where furtive is town

makes this a loss when it really shouldn't be
'possible world'

No matter the result of this game, I will have things to say in post. Seriously the scumreads on me are next level BS and I can't wait for postgame or dead thread to console me
can you please explain why it is so BS

like more BS than the scumreads on me

you know i was pushing tgp the entire time i was in the game as well, right?
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Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:08 pm

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I might as well say for posterity which ISOs I read so far:

Ari/Fire
Lucian/Gimli
Norwee

And it's given me a massive headache

Don't hammer tonight, let me think on this.
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Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:09 pm

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In post 2657, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2655, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2654, fireisredsir wrote: im worried about the possible world where furtive is town

makes this a loss when it really shouldn't be
'possible world'

No matter the result of this game, I will have things to say in post. Seriously the scumreads on me are next level BS and I can't wait for postgame or dead thread to console me
can you please explain why it is so BS

like more BS than the scumreads on me

you know i was pushing tgp the entire time i was in the game as well, right?
Your ISO is characterised by a continuation of Ari's push on Shirou. I just read it. You DO push TGP a bit on D2, but it's together with Shirou
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Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:10 pm

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In post 2655, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2654, fireisredsir wrote: im worried about the possible world where furtive is town

makes this a loss when it really shouldn't be
'possible world'

No matter the result of this game, I will have things to say in post. Seriously the scumreads on me are next level BS and I can't wait for postgame or dead thread to console me
Lol.
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Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:10 pm

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i don't think i ever wavered on tgp being scum to my memory at least

i just continued to try to sort and solve elsewhere as well
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Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:11 pm

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In post 2660, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2655, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2654, fireisredsir wrote: im worried about the possible world where furtive is town

makes this a loss when it really shouldn't be
'possible world'

No matter the result of this game, I will have things to say in post. Seriously the scumreads on me are next level BS and I can't wait for postgame or dead thread to console me
Lol.
Btw, you're basically POE town at this point. There are too many scummy slots for you to be Mafia. So you have a responsibility to vote correctly and guide others. Don't just say lol and sleepwalk into a loss.
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Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 2119, fireisredsir wrote: im usually not an omgusser but i think if we lim everyone voting me we prob win ngl
In post 2120, fireisredsir wrote: free townpojnts to the first one who actually explains their reasoning
i literally don't remember making these posts lmao but i think they were right

nobody ever explained either
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Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 2661, fireisredsir wrote: i don't think i ever wavered on tgp being scum to my memory at least

i just continued to try to sort and solve elsewhere as well
'Possible'

You know what, I'll stay up for a bit longer.
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Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:13 pm

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Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:14 pm

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I just think what ur saying is funny, i actually like ur play otherwise and find it to be a bit townie.
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Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:23 pm

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I think Shirou is actually town for the Norwee nonsense and the TGP/Lucian scumreads. There's a point around 842 onwards when Shirou votes Lucian and then TGP votes Ari shortly afterwards...might be the key to the whole thing.

Shirou, I'm choosing integrity over pride. If you played me and win then fair play. All I can do is say what I think and hope I'm right.
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Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:36 pm

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Cakez/CSF looks very town. I'm willing to locktown the slot

Toto actually looks townier than I first thought on replacing in. I don't think he fits as a TGP partner.
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Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:45 pm

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In post 2598, Klick wrote:
In post 2566, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2556, Klick wrote: My tinfoil is that furtive/Shirou both bussed and are now bussing each other not intending for either of them to be followed

I don't think this is actually particularly likely but it definitely crossed my mind
My dude

I have seen you play very well
Wait a second is this even true
I thought you thought I played terribly in Cosmos
When did I play well
C9++

You shot Mafia N2 and most/all of your reads were right

I think I did a bad job of explaining myself in Cosmos, but yeah not your best game
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Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:47 pm

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I think Klick is town from his posting. Only thing giving me pause is not voting TGP yesterday and then hammering after the hammer

But that would be weird as either alignment I think, probably weirder as Mafia

The crossing off actually looks really good and Fire/Gimli yesterday is similar to where a lot of people are now
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Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:53 pm

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i keep considering if it could just actually be norwee and then changing my mind

the std kill is weird to me tho
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Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:00 pm

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I think giuseppina is Mafia

I don't know why she's been townread.

Entire ISO is intellectual posturing and has barely voted/given clear reads

Someone talk to me about giuseppina
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Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:00 pm

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furtive has mostly felt like town to me even though i think a lot of his mindset has made no sense

aubrey i think i could never confidently townread his iso in this game and he was in that kind of weird loose vague spot where he didn't feel like he was taking firm stances on reads that he believed in and the way he and tgp approached each other felt like it could be partnered.

but i also have at times thought that there isn't really a solid reason i have for scumreading aubrey he just kind of felt like he was in a place where scum could probably be. and i think thats a kinda dangerous read to have
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Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:00 pm

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oh. lmao

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