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[fireisredsir]

well i don't agree with that

[furtiveglance]

well i don't agree with that

'splain it to me

[fireisredsir]

do you think voting is the difficult part of being mafia? voting is very easy to do. you just type the tags and then put a name in the middle

it has given very consistent nuanced thought and has often been one of the first to point out something about the game that was insightful and correct

including i think even being the first to suspect tgp

that's not easy to fake as mafia, and just the general eagerness to engage with the game without any real need to show itself as town in the way that certain people require (such as the people demanding that it vote)

it's all just very pure imo

[furtiveglance]

If anyone's doubting how heavily invested I am in this game...

I'm reading people's ISOs with this song playing on a loop:

This is very intense

[furtiveglance]

including i think even being the first to suspect tgp

I don't think this is accurate, can someone fact check?

[furtiveglance]

do you think voting is the difficult part of being mafia? voting is very easy to do. you just type the tags and then put a name in the middle

it has given very consistent nuanced thought and has often been one of the first to point out something about the game that was insightful and correct

including i think even being the first to suspect tgp

that's not easy to fake as mafia, and just the general eagerness to engage with the game without any real need to show itself as town in the way that certain people require (such as the people demanding that it vote)

it's all just very pure imo

Can you point to decisive stances that it has taken?

[fireisredsir]

i do appreciate the thorough reading, i did find it somewhat frustrating a couple days ago or whatever when it felt like you were taking strong stances on things without having actually read the things that were relevant

so ty. imo if you're town then this approach makes you findable

[furtiveglance]

i do appreciate the thorough reading, i did find it somewhat frustrating a couple days ago or whatever when it felt like you were taking strong stances on things without having actually read the things that were relevant

so ty. imo if you're town then this approach makes you findable

To me, I did read what was relevant

But I'm sure you can understand that with such a large game you can't read everything

[fireisredsir]

Tgp is probably town for that.

eh scumreading someone who is active and generally being townread by the game is a pretty good way to occupy your time as a scums

is it something more than ‘i don’t think a scums would push shirou here’?

(also if i squint the responses to first two quotes thegoldenparadox commented on feel like

hmm

very similar? to posts i had just made

but may be a coincidence of course as discussed earlier

but like, the toto is towny and then the look shirou is scummy for having a secret read when i have just said a toto post was good asked about sircakez’s secret read,

maybe i am meant to say, ah maybe it is scummy and sircakez’s having a secret read is scummy! or maybe i am meant to think, ah similar thoughts! thegoldenparadox is probably town! or maybe simply a coincidence

but there have been A Lot of posts since thegoldenparadox last posted and those are the ones he chose to comment on)

these are the posts im referring to which came directly after tgp's re-entrance to the thread (he didn't post between 90 and 614)

i should include the caveat of "first to suspect outside of rvs". i think people may have suspected tgp for his early posts and possibly for his disappearance, but this was the first serious game-related contribution that he was making once we got out of the early stages and giuseppina was the first to point it out as suspicious

[fireisredsir]

i do appreciate the thorough reading, i did find it somewhat frustrating a couple days ago or whatever when it felt like you were taking strong stances on things without having actually read the things that were relevant

so ty. imo if you're town then this approach makes you findable

To me, I did read what was relevant

But I'm sure you can understand that with such a large game you can't read everything

i can't understand tbh ive read this game like 3 times

but i have too much free time

[fireisredsir]

do you think voting is the difficult part of being mafia? voting is very easy to do. you just type the tags and then put a name in the middle

it has given very consistent nuanced thought and has often been one of the first to point out something about the game that was insightful and correct

including i think even being the first to suspect tgp

that's not easy to fake as mafia, and just the general eagerness to engage with the game without any real need to show itself as town in the way that certain people require (such as the people demanding that it vote)

it's all just very pure imo

Can you point to decisive stances that it has taken?

why are decisive stances a requirement for someone to be town? again, i don't think that's the aspect of its play that is difficult to fake as mafia

you can argue that taking decisive stances is pro-town because it moves the game forward. but i don't think that "someone who doesn't take decisive stances is mafia" is valid if they are moving the game forward in other ways by being present and commenting on posts and providing thoughts and engaging with people

[fireisredsir]

oh neat i just made my 5000th post im a jack of all trades now

[furtiveglance]

1 day after your scumday

[furtiveglance]

Tgp is probably town for that.

eh scumreading someone who is active and generally being townread by the game is a pretty good way to occupy your time as a scums

is it something more than ‘i don’t think a scums would push shirou here’?

(also if i squint the responses to first two quotes thegoldenparadox commented on feel like

hmm

very similar? to posts i had just made

but may be a coincidence of course as discussed earlier

but like, the toto is towny and then the look shirou is scummy for having a secret read when i have just said a toto post was good asked about sircakez’s secret read,

maybe i am meant to say, ah maybe it is scummy and sircakez’s having a secret read is scummy! or maybe i am meant to think, ah similar thoughts! thegoldenparadox is probably town! or maybe simply a coincidence

but there have been A Lot of posts since thegoldenparadox last posted and those are the ones he chose to comment on)

these are the posts im referring to which came directly after tgp's re-entrance to the thread (he didn't post between 90 and 614)

i should include the caveat of "first to suspect outside of rvs". i think people may have suspected tgp for his early posts and possibly for his disappearance, but this was the first serious game-related contribution that he was making once we got out of the early stages and giuseppina was the first to point it out as suspicious

Ok

I just think the style of this is such that (intentional or not) people won't read it and think 'dayum I gotta vote this TGP, sounds scummy af'

They'll think more like 'wow giuseppina sure is thinking' (that's the intention I think)

Also. The vote didn't come until MUCH later

[furtiveglance]

do you think voting is the difficult part of being mafia? voting is very easy to do. you just type the tags and then put a name in the middle

it has given very consistent nuanced thought and has often been one of the first to point out something about the game that was insightful and correct

including i think even being the first to suspect tgp

that's not easy to fake as mafia, and just the general eagerness to engage with the game without any real need to show itself as town in the way that certain people require (such as the people demanding that it vote)

it's all just very pure imo

Can you point to decisive stances that it has taken?

why are decisive stances a requirement for someone to be town? again, i don't think that's the aspect of its play that is difficult to fake as mafia

you can argue that taking decisive stances is pro-town because it moves the game forward. but i don't think that "someone who doesn't take decisive stances is mafia" is valid if they are moving the game forward in other ways by being present and commenting on posts and providing thoughts and engaging with people

Difficult =/= risky. If giuseppina is mafia this game, I'd categorise the game as 'difficult but safe'. Taking stances is riskier because you get scumread for it.

Why are you saying giuseppina is town because what it's doing is difficult to do as mafia? It's an experienced player. Besides, I don't think it is that difficult by the looks of things. It said it studied psychology or something

[fireisredsir]

i agree that it didn't actively try to convince anyone to vote tgp but it didn't do that for anyone

it's just a playstyle thing it isn't scummy

you can go read other games to see the same style if you want to

[petapan]

Replacing giuseppina.

[furtiveglance]

No comment I guess. I am not allowed to comment on anything about that replacement, for instance its timing. That would be against the rules

[furtiveglance]

i agree that it didn't actively try to convince anyone to vote tgp but it didn't do that for anyone

it's just a playstyle thing it isn't scummy

you can go read other games to see the same style if you want to

If you're just gonna call everything 'meta neutral', what's the townread for? Just shading TGP?

[fireisredsir]

Difficult =/= risky. If giuseppina is mafia this game, I'd categorise the game as 'difficult but safe'. Taking stances is riskier because you get scumread for it.

Why are you saying giuseppina is town because what it's doing is difficult to do as mafia? It's an experienced player. Besides, I don't think it is that difficult by the looks of things. It said it studied psychology or something

i think that was philosophy lol

but i just don't see any reason to scumread? like if this is a playstyle thing (it is) then you have to look past that and see what could indicate that the player is playing from an informed point of view or not

imo the signs indicate that it is playing from an uninformed point of view bc it feels like it is constantly sifting through the posts and trying to piece together the puzzle

and i don't see any signs that indicate that it is playing from an informed point of view

im saying that your argument that it is playing safe and not taking stances are not scum indicative in this case

[furtiveglance]

I meant philosophy yeah

You can disagree but if I'm right you gotta give me the daps

[fireisredsir]

sure okay

id be super impressed by its play if im wrong and i would give credit to people who weren't fooled by it

i really can't see it tho

[furtiveglance]

sure okay

id be super impressed by its play if im wrong and i would give credit to people who weren't fooled by it

i really can't see it tho

There's a chance that I'm just scumreading the style and if I'm right it was a guess

But my read was also partly POE

[fireisredsir]

poe is also somewhat concerning me because im starting to feel like people who were in my poe (you/shirou) are feeling more like town

that was why i started reconsidering on norwee earlier

[furtiveglance]

poe is also somewhat concerning me because im starting to feel like people who were in my poe (you/shirou) are feeling more like town

that was why i started reconsidering on norwee earlier

Norwee keeps towntelling/townslipping in his ISO