Open 870 | White Flag Mountainous | Postgame

[furtiveglance]

if furtive is town it's gotta be in fire/gimli

perhaps even if furtive is scum (fire partner)

My issue is that if fire is scum with not Gimli, who is either voting Gimli with me or waiting to? I townread CSF and Norwee who are the only other voters. Toto recently came in and said Gimli is town so I don't think he pairs with fire. Similarly, Lycanfire expressed reluctance to vote for Gimli. That leaves Klick. So unless it's exactly Fire/Klick, I think Fire is town

[Lazy Shirou]

furtive, serious talk.

from anime man to real photography man.

if i vote gimli today and it flips town/doesn't end the game, do you promise to vote fire tomorrow in a way that everyone can treat you as confirmed scum with fire if you don't?

if you say yes i can go along with you today and you must vote fire tomorrow if this doesn't end the game.

it's a deal.

[Lazy Shirou]

if you're that confident on gimli being scum, and i'm confident on fire being scum, if we're both town shouldn't we strike a deal of giving a shot at each other reads?

[furtiveglance]

furtive, serious talk.

from anime man to real photography man.

if i vote gimli today and it flips town/doesn't end the game, do you promise to vote fire tomorrow in a way that everyone can treat you as confirmed scum with fire if you don't?

if you say yes i can go along with you today and you must vote fire tomorrow if this doesn't end the game.

it's a deal.

I simultaneously don't like deals and don't remotely think that [Fire, Gimli] are 2 town

[furtiveglance]

In fact if Gimli didn't end the game, Fire would be one of my top candidates anyway

[Lazy Shirou]

i've already said it but gimli is where i may look next if fire flipped town and you're town as well, i think the game can end with gimli but you must PROMISE to vote fire tomorrow in a way that everyone has ever right on calling you confirmed scum with him if you don't.

your theory would have been proven wrong if gimli is town. i can see what you say about gimli not being exactly similar to his town meta here, but he's also on vla i guess

[Lazy Shirou]

I simultaneously don't like deals and don't remotely think that [Fire, Gimli] are 2 town

ok so do you AGREE to the deal?

are you absolutely promising to vote fire tomorrow if gimli flips town? if you don't i and anyone else has every right of calling you confirmed scum with fire and the "blame" isn't on me if i misread you?

[furtiveglance]

Why would I care about people calling me scum with someone else in a WF setup? Bit of a moot point but still.

I think Fire and Gimli will probably be the next 2 votes deal or no deal. Why are you trying to extract a promise?

[Lazy Shirou]

because i don't trust you to vote fire tomorrow and the fact you are yelling that gimli always ends the game but isn't accepting my deal is weird

i can accept the inverse deal, and always vote gimli tomorrow if fire flips town here.

[furtiveglance]

The very fact that you're obsessing over a 'deal' is what's making me apprehensive

[Lazy Shirou]

you talk with a lot of confidence that gimli is lockscum or something but you're hesitating

i'm not hesitating i think fire wins this game in so many universes, not always but a lot of the time. he was informed of tgp being scum, i can absolutely not shake that feeling when i look at his posts from before. he knew it, he was trying to position himself from the start.

not to mention tgp weird treatment of his slot

[Lazy Shirou]

The very fact that you're obsessing over a 'deal' is what's making me apprehensive

i literally made a deal like this in TM 2021 black flag and said that if Auro didn't flip scum i was self voting

auro was fucking scum

fire may not be perhaps but i absolutely need to kill that slot and if he's town reevaluate how i look at d1/d2 here

i don't think i've ever made those kinds of deal as scum either, it's just not worth it

[furtiveglance]

Ok, deal. I think Fire/Gimli were going in either order regardless, but fine

[Lazy Shirou]

so are you voting fire with me first or are we killing gimli first? up to you.

[Lazy Shirou]

i obviously want fire

[furtiveglance]

Gimli has more votes

[Lazy Shirou]

VOTE: gimli

let's go pls don't go back on your word if town

[Lazy Shirou]

i think there's also decent odds it ends with just gimli but eh

i think fire is the scum here in most universes

[Lazy Shirou]

if they're busing each other that would also be hilarious but very unlikely and borderline throwing

[furtiveglance]

Someone finish it

[Toto]

I don't like this talk about lining up the lims.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In the immortal words of a previous game. Maybe Shirou is just crazy.

[Lazy Shirou]

I don't like this talk about lining up the lims.

have done it before, only as town so far in fact:

Subject: TM 2021 - Black Flag Nightless

Fair enough. Just seemed like a weird reaction test or something. It didn’t jive with what I had.

Why do you think people are so willing to sheep you?

Whatever

Math

.

Discussion time is over,

now it's Mafia Texas time where I bet all my chips on my reads.

I would rather lose this game because scum pulled off something unexpected than to keep like this.

My entire chain for anyone with an interest is:

Auro

>

Shirou

>

Flopz

>

MathBlade

Mena/AL/Chennis

probably still have at maximum one scum so I suggest Math if things come to the worst. I don't think they will though.

[Lazy Shirou]

Subject: TM 2021 - Black Flag Nightless

I'm scum

Autumn

.

Scum.

Now vote

Auro

already, and hard catch me tomorrow, and you win the game.

Very simple plan right?

I don't think I'm getting limmed today without a

self-vote

, although who knows by this point.

[Lazy Shirou]

In the immortal words of a previous game. Maybe Shirou is just crazy.

how am i crazy when i'm killing both people you wanted

norwee you can't stop scumposting

i was town reading your play earlier in d1 but you feel so disengaged of the game.