Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it just doesnt sound like what freedom sounds like in a pt at all

[Thestatusquo]

i'll be honest that i don't believe much in the psyche wagon at this point because it was a bit of a random read from me for the fact PP contributed the least in the entire game before replacing out, but alisae/me have been sharing some interesting stuff in the PT as well and i think maybe it's worth sheeping her

VOTE: psyche

my heart doesn't necessarily scream this is scum at all but /shrug

it's the best i can do atm

open wolfing "oh poor is me I guess I just have to get on this wagon but its probably town"

[Titus]

it just doesnt sound like what freedom sounds like in a pt at all

I rephrased everything to avoid quoting rules. You know I can't quote. I even referenced Freedom having a Furtiveglance scumread early on based on the PT.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea i know but from what i remember of freedom in a pt the dude just makes like 600 posts about random ass things that have nothing to do with the game at all. and you're telling me he posted 7 times and its all game related lol.

[Titus]

Not yet but I'm ok voting with him based on my prior slot thoughts + the VCs

Not yet but I'm ok voting with him based on my prior slot thoughts + the VCs

Have you read any of his posts?

His being Cakez or PP? None in main thread. Reading now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats from my memory of what he did in hdp like 2 years ago

i should probly look for some more recent games to see if hes changed or w/e

[Titus]

yea i know but from what i remember of freedom in a pt the dude just makes like 600 posts about random ass things that have nothing to do with the game at all. and you're telling me he posted 7 times and its all game related lol.

Yeah he had no one to talk to and he clearly had IRL as evidenced by his post count.

I used to be a bigger poster than I am today too.

[Lazy Shirou]

and if you're doing something like that feel free to correct me

corrected you stand then, this is just from my most recently finished town game white flag:

Also, Shurro you can stick your poe list up your ass afaic. Just a another reminder I want norwee town explanation. Please explain like im 5. Please point specific posts I should be townreading with some rationale. Anime gifs not allowed.

If all the reason you have to town read norwee is the reaction to your stun then I dont really think the way they reacted is in any way hard to fake as scum. So you are either confbiased or tmid, or you and norwee are partners. Which is my favorite theory.

You still need to explain why you were hard town reading them BEFORE the stunt, since as you have explained it was always part of the plan.

What gave you the confidence to pull that. I asked this before and you responded with something equivalent to “trust me bro”.

Like I don’t get the mindset.
Maybe you just have an inflated ego and are confbiased I just don’t see how it works other wise.

I want to reply on this before going into Gimli/Furtive.

I probably am kinda "confbiased" by this point because I've a good history of knowing more or less how to read Norwee. Could I get it wrong eventually? Can I be wrong right now? YES
. But mafia is a guessing game and right now all that I know about him points to him being town in this game.

It's true I'm trying to "hide" a bit some of the reasons and not going for ultra breakdown of every little thing I think is from his town meta/playstyle, I don't want to reveal everything about how I read him because then he could fake it all next time, I don't want that because it's pleasant to feel like you've a friend that you can read, it makes the game more fun when I feel at ease trusting him because I trust my methods on reading him so far.

I'll admit, in fact, that although I'm advocating quite a bit for town!Norwee here, he hasn't
been very
townie outside of his reaction to my push, but I still think the way he reacted to the push isn't from scum!him and there's some good posts like I pointed out there and here in his ISO. You can disagree, that's fine Toto, maybe I'm wrong
, but I've no choice but to trust my guns because they've kinda worked so far with him. I'm pushing it confidently because I believe preventing a miselimination on him is very positive for our odds of winning this game and that's it.

I've not been too wrong on him so far (there's a game I suspected him but never confident enough to lim him because there was always "scummier" slots in my vision), but this could be it. My next game could be it. I don't feel like I've properly "failed" on him yet by completely inversely reading his alignment but I could. I'm not infallible.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong? I don't think I'm, but I could be.

One of the best town players in this site that destroyed scum teams in D1 has his left post in the site as a pun that in the very end, he thinks there's quite a bit of luck
involved in mafia. I agree there's definitely games that even people that know me probably would suspect me because I was playing a bit differently for whatever reason. Mafia is hard, we can only often guess.

I'm guessing Norwee is town here. I've historically good guesses on him I believe. I could still be wrong though I guess.

That's it Toto.

It's hard to be sure of anything in this game but I try to push to the best of my abilities what I think is the correct answer.

[Lazy Shirou]

yea i know but from what i remember of freedom in a pt the dude just makes like 600 posts about random ass things that have nothing to do with the game at all. and you're telling me he posted 7 times and its all game related lol.

oh.

[Titus]

That being said if Psyche denies it, so sweat off my back. Trading 1 for 1 to get a scum is worth it given my IRL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea i know but from what i remember of freedom in a pt the dude just makes like 600 posts about random ass things that have nothing to do with the game at all. and you're telling me he posted 7 times and its all game related lol.

Yeah he had no one to talk to and he clearly had IRL as evidenced by his post count.

I used to be a bigger poster than I am today too.

titus he doesnt need someone to talk to

in hdp he was just monologuing to himself or something

[Lazy Shirou]

like, i think my reply to Toto there is exactly what i want to say here in regards to all this

[Thestatusquo]

and if you're doing something like that feel free to correct me

corrected you stand then, this is just from my most recently finished town game white flag:

Also, Shurro you can stick your poe list up your ass afaic. Just a another reminder I want norwee town explanation. Please explain like im 5. Please point specific posts I should be townreading with some rationale. Anime gifs not allowed.

If all the reason you have to town read norwee is the reaction to your stun then I dont really think the way they reacted is in any way hard to fake as scum. So you are either confbiased or tmid, or you and norwee are partners. Which is my favorite theory.

You still need to explain why you were hard town reading them BEFORE the stunt, since as you have explained it was always part of the plan.

What gave you the confidence to pull that. I asked this before and you responded with something equivalent to “trust me bro”.

Like I don’t get the mindset.
Maybe you just have an inflated ego and are confbiased I just don’t see how it works other wise.

I want to reply on this before going into Gimli/Furtive.

I probably am kinda "confbiased" by this point because I've a good history of knowing more or less how to read Norwee. Could I get it wrong eventually? Can I be wrong right now? YES
. But mafia is a guessing game and right now all that I know about him points to him being town in this game.

It's true I'm trying to "hide" a bit some of the reasons and not going for ultra breakdown of every little thing I think is from his town meta/playstyle, I don't want to reveal everything about how I read him because then he could fake it all next time, I don't want that because it's pleasant to feel like you've a friend that you can read, it makes the game more fun when I feel at ease trusting him because I trust my methods on reading him so far.

I'll admit, in fact, that although I'm advocating quite a bit for town!Norwee here, he hasn't
been very
townie outside of his reaction to my push, but I still think the way he reacted to the push isn't from scum!him and there's some good posts like I pointed out there and here in his ISO. You can disagree, that's fine Toto, maybe I'm wrong
, but I've no choice but to trust my guns because they've kinda worked so far with him. I'm pushing it confidently because I believe preventing a miselimination on him is very positive for our odds of winning this game and that's it.

I've not been too wrong on him so far (there's a game I suspected him but never confident enough to lim him because there was always "scummier" slots in my vision), but this could be it. My next game could be it. I don't feel like I've properly "failed" on him yet by completely inversely reading his alignment but I could. I'm not infallible.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong? I don't think I'm, but I could be.

One of the best town players in this site that destroyed scum teams in D1 has his left post in the site as a pun that in the very end, he thinks there's quite a bit of luck
involved in mafia. I agree there's definitely games that even people that know me probably would suspect me because I was playing a bit differently for whatever reason. Mafia is hard, we can only often guess.

I'm guessing Norwee is town here. I've historically good guesses on him I believe. I could still be wrong though I guess.

That's it Toto.

It's hard to be sure of anything in this game but I try to push to the best of my abilities what I think is the correct answer.

You have money, yes? Send me a message outlining the things you look for that you are using to read him this game and maybe we can find some understanding here.

[Thestatusquo]

Doesn't have to be all of it, but I want SOMETHING substantive that you can point to in this game and other games.

[Titus]

The only problem we run into is T v T and we're not believed. Otherwise

T v Scum Psyche who denies: Great we get Psyche scum with scum data.
T v T: We're not believed. We get info from scum chaining furtive me Psyche.
T v Scum Psyche: Tells the truth, we aren't believed. Psyche scum flips. VCA data.

So whatever.

[Titus]

T v Scum Psyche where we're belived and I flip is literally the worst scenario as scum Psyche could get away. So I don't care to defend it any further and would like to talk about reads.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea i recognize i can just be wrong about how freedom is


tell me about why you think psyche is mafia?

[Lazy Shirou]

You have money, yes? Send me a message outlining the things you look for that you are using to read him this game and maybe we can find some understanding here.

i think that's a waste of money (that i need to for team swaps) but if it does help us arrive at the right answer i could consider it

the problem is that i'm not even sure you are town shea, if you can convince me you deserve to not be in my PoE i could do it

if you're town i want to help you see why i think you're wrong in this game so far (and therefore am here talking to you) but i'm also not wasting money/effort on this if i believe you've decent odds of being scum as i do rn

[Titus]

Mostly PP is why I have doubts but I really don't. Like I said, not a good challenge. If I was rating my preference is psyche, Ali, Shiro but none are good.

[Thestatusquo]

I don't care if you think I'm town or not. You're not getting me eliminated either way.

[Titus]

*I really don't think Psyche is scum.

[Titus]

I don't care if you think I'm town or not. You're not getting me eliminated either way.

And this is why NorwegianboyEE has done jackshit ftr.

[Thestatusquo]

I think psyche is town.

I could vote titus but this engagement from her feels pretty town to me too.

I think shirou is scum and I think alisae is scum, I'm not sure which has a higher probability though.

[Thestatusquo]

I don't care if you think I'm town or not. You're not getting me eliminated either way.

And this is why NorwegianboyEE has done jackshit ftr.

Can you explain further?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Excuse me?