Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[Alisae]

it does really feels as if someone is scum siding hard this game and i just hope it's not me

I am the 6th wolf

[Lazy Shirou]

can i be the 7th

[Lazy Shirou]

where would your thoughts be if psyche is town tho alisae

[Alisae]

I genuinely do believe I should probably never reach end game unless I somehow come across the right answers but like that doesn't mean I'm going to make it easy for anyone

[Lazy Shirou]

i don't think you seriously considered that possibility yet

p0edit: hm

[Alisae]

where would your thoughts be if psyche is town tho alisae

my thoughts are fuck me

[Lazy Shirou]

I genuinely do believe I should probably never reach end game unless I somehow come across the right answers but like that doesn't mean I'm going to make it easy for anyone

hm?

if psyche is town isn't tomorrow basically endgame?

[Lazy Shirou]

like, ELO?

[Alisae]

I genuinely do believe I should probably never reach end game unless I somehow come across the right answers but like that doesn't mean I'm going to make it easy for anyone

hm?

if psyche is town isn't tomorrow basically endgame?

...

[Lazy Shirou]

you hadn't realized that tomorrow is ELO if psyche is town?

[Psyche]

im awake again!
but im a little burned out

[Alisae]

I think my play has probably singlehandedly costed village the game then...

pedit: No Shirou I haven't realized that

[Alisae]

sorry...

[Lazy Shirou]

calm down psyceh has decent odds of being wolf i think

[Lazy Shirou]

maybe...?

prob?

???????????

[Psyche]

I think psyche is the best flip in the game because I can’t read it and if it’s flip tells me if I need to look for 3 wolves or 4. I literally always want to flip it.

this is typical of why i think alisae is scummy. never actually pushes scumreads identified as scumreads, apparently doesn't have them. same pattern was evident in their pooky vote in the earlygame. haven't digged into how the slot ended up on the furtive wagon but i'd bet it's the same thing. more egregious here since iirc the slot specifically created this exact dilemma between supposed null reads using an item.

[Lazy Shirou]

oh wow psyche is actually gonna post content?

[Psyche]

I think my play has probably singlehandedly costed village the game then...

pedit: No Shirou I haven't realized that

oh woe for you, so tragic

[Alisae]

I wanna feel resigned and just be like "kill me" but that's not really helpful either (and also I'm a villager) i think the only thing I can do is just try to make it right and keep going...

[Lazy Shirou]

People who I feel quite certain are town:
Enchant
Shea
pooky

People who at least put on a decent show of it (I can't rule out that they're scum, but imo there's no good case for it):
gamma
SirCakez
T-Bone
Shirou
Save The Dragons (caveat: this one's iso is imo around as fluffy as mine!)

People I could make an unsatisfying case for as scum:
Haschel Cedricson
Titus (though I think I'm plenty close to a read on this slot)

People who I could easily case as scum but yknow whatever:
NorwegianboyEE
Alisae

are those still your reads psyche?

did titus flipping town change anything?

[Psyche]

to add more context to what i mean, here's a sequence that has not sat right with me:

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

why do you have your panties in a knot over 1 singular vote
if anything villagers should be open to the idea of using their vote to apply pressure
it's not like the vote is going to make or break your wagon

I don't get the issue

really weird framing here

address the concern
VOTE: pooky
not rly interested in this PvP mindset bullshit of attacking back and my main concern is I don't see how what you are describing is wolf indicative at all

as posed doesn't seem to root vote in a scumread, which i don't like. even as a pressure vote, pressure's weaker w/ implication that a post is scummy.
alisae seems to make a whole thing of aligning beforehand with idea of votes as pressure tools rather than positional signals. but that stance provides a certain extra flexibility to scum; their votes get harder to read but can still be held to out of stubbornness.
that a pressure vote would come after this ode to pressuring also feels potentially contrived. easy to dispel if alisae's got a pattern of this kind of thing in other games or theory discussion.

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

why do you have your panties in a knot over 1 singular vote
if anything villagers should be open to the idea of using their vote to apply pressure
it's not like the vote is going to make or break your wagon

I don't get the issue

really weird framing here

address the concern
VOTE: pooky
not rly interested in this PvP mindset bullshit of attacking back and my main concern is I don't see how what you are describing is wolf indicative at all

mmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No actually
what's the point of responding like this
these are basically just nothing responses that if anything what you think of the post.
so like what's the point?

im laughing at your openwolfiness and telling you i know you're a wolf just wait your turn

Well if you don't give me any room to solve your slot and treat me like an enemy then really you give me no room to try to find the innocence in your slot

And this is so oddly inflexible. Your ability to read pookie *really* depends on whether they can answer this question? Seems more plausible to interpret this as a contrived way to commit to the vote w/o having to commit to a scumread. A null explanation though could be that this is just an expression of frustration and/or attempt to fortify the pressure vote. But I have trouble stomaching it.

UNVOTE:

ok i'll sheep you for now std i trust u
VOTE: cakez

and i'm supposed to interpret the sequence w pooky as a high-pressure interrogation so u can sort town from scum but now all the gas is gone and it's cool to put cake at L-1 w/o any clear plan for actually sorting them.

[Firebringer]

Hyperpost Meta vs Board of Mis-directors vs 3.02

Pysche (4): Alisae, Shirou, PookytheMagicalBear, Save The Dragons,
Alisae (1) : Thestatusquo,
Shirou (2) : T-Bone, SirCakez,

Not Voting (5): Psyche , Haschel Cedricson, Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE , Enchant,


With 12 Alive, It Takes 7 to Eliminate.
Deadline for challenge is (expired on 2023-02-11 10:45:00)

Mod Notes:

[Psyche]

Anyway I'm happy to put cakez out of his misery.
I have a challenge in mind I would like to make after this one

distanced from but perfectly happy to hammer, purposeless mysteriousness about actual reads. wait no, not reads, just intended challenges which as we now know is something different.

suspect that this whole game alisae will back lims on the basis of achieving catharsis and clarifying null reads while always being a step away from solving the game

People who I feel quite certain are town:
Enchant
Shea
pooky

People who at least put on a decent show of it (I can't rule out that they're scum, but imo there's no good case for it):
gamma
SirCakez
T-Bone
Shirou
Save The Dragons (caveat: this one's iso is imo around as fluffy as mine!)

People I could make an unsatisfying case for as scum:
Haschel Cedricson
Titus (though I think I'm plenty close to a read on this slot)

People who I could easily case as scum but yknow whatever:
NorwegianboyEE
Alisae

are those still your reads psyche?

did titus flipping town change anything?

woah yall really flipped titus over me? so kind. no, so impatient. egh.

[Psyche]

titus flipping town doesn't change my reads too much. just sort of disperses suspicion i had for slot to others, probably people leading it. has "all according to keikaku" vibes, especially with me lined up. it's 140 pages and town is still pigeonholed into limming people for not being readable.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it does really feels as if someone is scum siding hard this game and i just hope it's not me

nobody can scumside harder than me

i feel like theres 9 wolves in this game tbh