Open 873: PYP: Anime Music & Memes - Game Over!

[Taly]

Okay asking basic questions is not reaction testing.
Unless at some point you started making posts to incite people, but I didn't see much of that.

It seems our system has an inherent difference in mafia philosophy from you.

Gaia

[Cephrir]

Ok I don't think it's doing anything anymore so: I had a moderate gut ping on notty (which still persists if I'm honest) and I decided it would be fun to go on the attack and get some reactions

For my next trick,
VOTE: Ydrasse

Ceph, if it was just a gut ping, why were you also trying to shoot down my reasons for thinking that he was more likely town?

And what reactions were you looking for? Do you feel like you got anything out of it?

Because I disagreed with your reasoning. I did think he was scum, but even if I didn't, I would have nitpicked your thoughts process there because I found it odd and thought it might even be scum indicative for you

Do you really think that on like page 3, scum!notty would think that the best use of his time to get town read would be to do some meta work on the Taly slot?

Like, that does not seem like the natural thought process on how to spend time for scum.

Is in thread actively talking to players -> decides to stop posting for 20 mins to do some meta on a slot, and then not even use it to make a push -> unvote from the slot that.

It just does not seem like realisitic scum motivated plan.

Compared to the town process

Sees something that they find suspicious about a player -> go skim that player's opening games to see if it was scum indicative -> realize that it is a play style difference -> unvote.

Yeah, the town process seems more likely to me then the scum one.

It seems to have worked on you, so if he did think that he wouldn't have been wrong

[Cephrir]

I actually think that "scum him thought that just *saying* he was doing meta in order to get town read" was more likely then him actually dedicating his time to do that there. Which is why I went back and looked at that time to see if there really was a decrease in his posting leading up to him saying that he had done meta on them

I just severely disagree with this but I guess it's not very important

[Cephrir]

cephypoo did you ever explain your reasoning for thinking notty was scum

No and I'm probably not gonna

Fabricating a read would just be too hard!!

[Cephrir]

waves hand weakly at vote

Hi what's with the lack of motivation

[Bell]

Okay asking basic questions is not reaction testing.
Unless at some point you started making posts to incite people, but I didn't see much of that.

It seems our system has an inherent difference in mafia philosophy from you.

Gaia

Or I'm just scum,
who will never change their mind because they aren't interested in anything but a town death.

[Taly]

How long are you going to avoid that accusation? 440

Gaia

[Cephrir]

I have a problem... I have caught up, and I did not find a scum read :/

Trendy choices seem to be Notty and Taly.

I kinda think Notty is town? I liked that he appeared to stop and do some meta skims when he saw something that pinged him. It was well telegraphed too, like he voted in 82, made a comment about meta diving in 109, then largely disappeared from the thread for ~20 mins, before coming back with a new take on Taly in 122. That 20 min thread break would be an impressive touch if faked.

I am having a hard time sorting Taly, just because every post she makes seems to either misunderstand the post that is directed at her, or she is responding to posts directed at other people. I am not sure how to sort constant misunderstandings tbh.

I would request LLD and/or Peta to solve the game for me please.

@Peta, why are you voting Dunn?

Surely even if scum he really did the meta. Of course that would require a few minutes

Do you think Notty's meta conclusion holds water?

- Gaia

I would have to do the meta to answer that and I'm not gonna

[Cephrir]

I am townreading taly

[Ydrasse]

waves hand weakly at vote

Hi what's with the lack of motivation

taps head

[Bell]

What if, and follow me here, I was just making an observation and my plan was not to bait you.

[Bell]

I throw snowcones as town, but in general I don't try to bait people into making mistakes very often and when I do it's usually on a strictly mechanical basis where a misstep would probably point to them being scum.
Uh. I don't know if I've ever tried to bait someone as scum before.

[Cephrir]

waves hand weakly at vote

Hi what's with the lack of motivation

taps head

I don't speak this language

[Bell]

I do.
I think they're tired.

[Ydrasse]

my irl vibes are pretty bad today
ive been reading but im not absorbing a lot beyond surface level feeling

[Taly]

bell, you're not convincing me that this was an observation

you casted shade on us and someone we had a mutual clash with, (

notty

), 214 219, and when we vote you:
- justify your vote when we voted you in return (in part to get you to talk about the misread) 274
- you lead into a prejudice from previous games 383

and you hardly interact with the notty FOS, which reads like an easy pivot point, pooch

vicky

[Taly]

im yeeting us from th convo, got things to do

~taly

[unwnd]

waves hand weakly at vote

Hi what's with the lack of motivation

taps head

I don't speak this language

[Lady Lambdadelta]

waves hand weakly at vote

Hi what's with the lack of motivation

taps head

I don't speak this language

"No but for real"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

_giggles_

[Bell]

bell, you're not convincing me that this was an observation

you casted shade on us and someone we had a mutual clash with, (

notty

), 214 219, and when we vote you:
- justify your vote when we voted you in return (in part to get you to talk about the misread) 274
- you lead into a prejudice from previous games 383

and you hardly interact with the notty FOS, which reads like an easy pivot point, pooch

vicky

Your mutual clash was them announcing that you were boring instead of scum based on them reviewing other early game states of you.
Yes, it's fascinating that I've deliberately chosen to discredit myself. I can see why you would think that's scummy.
I don't think I understand your pivot point argument probably because you and I have different definitions of pivot. Unless you're arguing that my plan was to vote you and if I changed my mind I could vote Notty instead, but the crux of my argument was that you were both scum. I interacted with Notty more than anyone else in the game. So that's objectively wrong. I do understand roughly based on prior observations that you can be acerbic and inaccurate with your statements as either alignment. So I'm just going to not fixate too hard on the accuracy of your statements and focus more on your feels instead.

[Bell]

It was an observation though, it was an observation that you lacked curiosity about my alignment.

[unwnd]

How to engage this PList without inferring about meta every 5 seconds

[Bell]

Do you have a hammer and a loony toons setting for severe head injuries?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How to engage this PList without inferring about meta every 5 seconds

imagine everyone with their clothes off

or is that for being nervous

idk, do it anyway