Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[Lazy Shirou]

People who I feel quite certain are town:
Enchant
Shea
pooky

People who at least put on a decent show of it (I can't rule out that they're scum, but imo there's no good case for it):
gamma
SirCakez
T-Bone
Shirou
Save The Dragons (caveat: this one's iso is imo around as fluffy as mine!)

People I could make an unsatisfying case for as scum:
Haschel Cedricson

Titus (though I think I'm plenty close to a read on this slot)

People who I could easily case as scum but yknow whatever:
NorwegianboyEE
Alisae

Titus wasn't at the "middle" of your readlist, it was near the damn bottom, but you just get here after titus flips town and tries to shade the wagon

woah yall really flipped titus over me? so kind. no, so impatient. egh.

[Lazy Shirou]

i think you got in an awkward position right now where you're forced to push norwe bc your intended push on alisae doesn't quite work anymore due to the replace out

[Lazy Shirou]

i think you got in an awkward position right now where you're forced to push norwe bc your intended push on alisae doesn't quite work anymore due to the replace out

to be clear, bc he had those two in the bottom of his readlist

it's just puzzling to me why he isn't pushing me yet but maybe he doesn't think he can win?

idk, i'm not as easy of a target as ali/norwe imo but still

[Lazy Shirou]

the titus thing is actually one the main things i think psyche is scum for to be honest

i just don't think it's something people will believe at but saying titus was your "nullread" when she was near the very bottom is just trying to look better on her flipping town and i think it's pretty fake

[Lazy Shirou]

it's classic 101 scumming

you may have hinted on agreeing to titus being suspected before but as soon as she flips town the wagon shouldn't have happened

[Lazy Shirou]

i don't like to reveal some of my detail-heavy reasons for scum reads sometimes bc they don't look too convincing but it's really hard to believe this post comes from town

woah yall really flipped titus over me? so kind. no, so impatient. egh.

this post kinda hints that maybe ?flipping him? would be better than titus and he had her as a scum lean

then he says he still has ali as a suspect after the rep out and i think that's the scum agenda to not let ali/dunn leave the lim pool

[Psyche]

People I could make an unsatisfying case for as scum:
Haschel Cedricson
Titus (though I think I'm plenty close to a read on this slot)

it was a nullread! why we are limming the people in the middle of our lists

this was also bullshit i was just tired and scared to push it too much

it's not bullshit. why would i hang on reads even i understand have weak basis

[Save The Dragons]

Psyche if you had to hero solve 4 people who would they be

[Lazy Shirou]

it's not bullshit. why would i hang on reads even i understand have weak basis

i don't understand what you mean here

you had suspicious on titus and still seemed to dislike the wagon happening at all rather than *yours*

you talked like as if us flipping you would be better than flipping titus and that feels lamist to me

[Lazy Shirou]

it would be lamist even if you town leaned titus but i think it's much worse for you to talk like that when you weren't confident on her being town

[Lazy Shirou]

i would rather flip anyone other than my own slot except on very specific circumstances, i think that's standard for most on most situations

[Psyche]

there's no scum motive in asserting titus was a null read after his flip. you've identified something you think is an inconsistency due to wording that sure i can see might be misleading, but connection to a scum win condition is not there.

also motive for norwee admitting to lying about read there was imo just to look townie based on the same reasoning you're providing. the reason i don't think it looks townie and that you're failing to engage w at all is that her volunteered justification for the lie is neither 1) credible (she had a pookie-xor-shirou read at that point and it was so important to resolve that she'd rather lie? but also not make any real push on pookie?), nor 2) consistent w her read progression from that point forward

also really? sat on this complaint about my titus post all this time bc of shyness? i am legit the wagon right now. of course you're gonna end up on mislim after mislim if you just sit on impressions w/o talking about them

[Lazy Shirou]

i was scared of being wrong on you but the more you post the more i feel like you're looking to shade someone rather than solve the game and if me/ali are wrong on you, let's just wrap up this game by this point

i'm starting to get tired of defending myself here or hesitating

i think i've been one of the main focus of a challenge it's been over a week

[Lazy Shirou]

i wrote the above before psyche posted fwiw

gonna read now

[Psyche]

this post kinda hints that maybe ?flipping him? would be better than titus and he had her as a scum lean

such a silly take. yeah im so racked by guilt for being scum that i'm making freudian slips

[Lazy Shirou]

oh ok so first lines and i'm already surprised

there's no scum motive in asserting titus was a null read after his flip. you've identified something you think is an inconsistency due to wording that sure i can see might be misleading, but connection to a scum win condition is not there.

so there's no scum motive to being LAMIST? i wonder why it's a word/slang in the first place then. surely, it's bc scum do it sometimes and i think it's the case with you here

the contribution to scum wincon in your head is that trying to seem reasonable by calling titus wagon bad-ish will make you look better but unhappily it doesn't and i don't think scum!you would be very aware of that

[Lazy Shirou]

this post kinda hints that maybe ?flipping him? would be better than titus and he had her as a scum lean

such a silly take. yeah im so racked by guilt for being scum that i'm making freudian slips

?

i've no idea what you're implying here i'm playing mafia not psychology pls

[Lazy Shirou]

also really? sat on this complaint about my titus post all this time bc of shyness? i am legit the wagon right now. of course you're gonna end up on mislim after mislim if you just sit on impressions w/o talking about them

i would have no problem voting/compromissing on either furtive or titus back then but for circumstances it weren't my main pushes, in fact i haven't flipped one single strong push of mine so far since i gave up on ali before

i'm not sure i would consider you a strong push though, it's like, medium push and i'm just tired of the game/apathy

[Lazy Shirou]

like, you're trying to shade the town flip wagons again to look more reasonable

you were pushing ali tho and i think most people see with the replace out that she's prob town here

you were also voting a mislim apparently psyche, saying we've been unreasonable for voting titus/furtive is the same narrative shea is trying to spin here by saying scum is "controlling" the game with the town flips and that he needs to be listened to

[Enchant]

I have feeling Gamma will shot me in the face

[Lazy Shirou]

i say we but i don't even think i was on those wagons either your point is moot towards me

i was pretty invested on ali at some point tho

[Lazy Shirou]

I have feeling Gamma will shot me in the face

tbh i think they'll not follow the plan if we try to make you win bc they'll try to get revenge on you yeah

would be kinda funny sorry enchant

[Psyche]

it's not bullshit. why would i hang on reads even i understand have weak basis

i don't understand what you mean here

you had suspicious on titus and still seemed to dislike the wagon happening at all rather than *yours*

you talked like as if us flipping you would be better than flipping titus and that feels lamist to me

i think it's dumb to only be able to eliminate null reads in games w 150 pages
it means town sat around all that time and did nothing
so much has happened but everyone acts like bystanders in it all. pile blame on the limmed slot for not making content as if it those were their only options.

i don't think lamist is a real tell anyway. as if only scum could ever have motive to complain when a town is fucking up.

the sad thing imo is that when i flip you'll still think lamist is a real tell just like people are still riding on "no content" as a lim basis after titus flip. you'll just go on being like that. all failure, no growth

[Enchant]

If i shot Gamma, Gamma will claim i am supervillian who did it on purpose.
If i won't shot Gamma... Wait.
Why i would't shot Gamma...

[Psyche]

like, you're trying to shade the town flip wagons again to look more reasonable

you were pushing ali tho and i think most people see with the replace out that she's prob town here

you were also voting a mislim apparently psyche, saying we've been unreasonable for voting titus/furtive is the same narrative shea is trying to spin here by saying scum is "controlling" the game with the town flips and that he needs to be listened to

jesus of course scum is controlling the game. the challenge system makes it even easier than normal. also are you really scumreading shea??