Mini 2287: AB:LoAF (Postgame)

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

I think your play is objectively scummy and trying to pretend otherwise or deflect the matter is a bad look

[TemporalLich]

Overconfidence doesn't leave room for error which is why it can end bad

pedit: I can't dispute that.

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

I think page 3 is a little early for mass claiming here. Unless you have something to gain from this.



VOTE: Marashu[/v}

I kind of do, but it doesn't need to be so early.

Now THIS is exciting

UNVOTE:

why would you unvote because of this?

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

Millers ave to claim right away. its the way it works

My question (maybe just out of curiosity) is why would anyone choose to be miller

like whats, the other option that they actually discarded that was worse. That's why I actually have some considerations about believing the miller claim

this is probably the smartest approach anyone's had to the miller claim
and I am acknowledging that there are reason to pick it that were stated

[TemporalLich]

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[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

alright

I don't decide when RVS ends but having actual votes is better than RVS votes

that being said, it's too early for me to provide a lead rist because Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu has not posted yet

why would you need all slots to post once to provide a read list?

can't it be with everyone and them at null? It kinda makes no sense

this is also well said

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

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here's an idea: why don't you try giving a take that scratches deeper than a soup spoon?

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

It's still early D1, lead rists are better if you have reasons for each position in the list

literally just ask
this looks like posturing

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

Well there's second role: Meta Janitor. But it was probably stated.

so why is NM exempt of this

[Enchant]

Well there's second role: Meta Janitor. But it was probably stated.

so why is NM exempt of this

Because role wielder choose so.

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

here is a lead rist for now

[Town]

Gimli - Town mindset, which can be discerned by towny posts appearing to be thoughtstreamed.
Herta - Way too gambity to be scum, despite the hasty claim.
Aisa - Good pushes.
KittyTacky - Seemingly townie.
Not_Mafia - Is Not_Mafia.
Enchant - Mostly RVS content, if not then setup spec.
narrow parking - An RVS vote and nothing else as of now.
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu - No content as of now.
Yume - No content as of now except for a vote out of the blue.
Kyoko Kirigiri - Yeah idk.
Marashu - Seemingly not townie.
Kokichi Oma - Scummy mindset.

[Scum]

Now I'm confused. Did TL say he had questions to go with this or did I misinterpret something?

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

VOTE: kyoko

Game is kind of dead and I get that, but you're still talking about lich's list and I think the focus on that is scummy

this feels disingenuous
I think Kyoko makes good points, and aside from that consistent pressure in this scenario I think is actually town-indicating.

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

I think trying a reads list this early is towny, shows eagerness to solve and whatnot.

this does not feel like a real thought
if you're not scum then you have the worldliness of a child

[Gimli]

thanks

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

Well there's second role: Meta Janitor. But it was probably stated.

so why is NM exempt of this

Because role wielder choose so.

that's possible?

[Enchant]

Well there's second role: Meta Janitor. But it was probably stated.

so why is NM exempt of this

Because role wielder choose so.

that's possible?

Multitargeting Meta Janitor

When you pick this card, give me a list of any number of players. All of these players will have their public discard redacted. You may self target.

[KittyTacky]

Spoiler: Re: discussion of Herta's role

I return vanilla [smallest groupscum faction at the beginning of the game]. It says nothing about conspirators or guardians or any other faction other than town of course. Walk me through this like I'm 5, please.

According to the setup we have 4 factions, so I don't know why you're speculating on how many there are.

I also don't know what you mean by slow to get information out of me. I'm not on a timetable. And even if I were, what difference does/did it make?

I got 3 factions and not 4 from the following:

1. The moderator rolls 1d4. This corresponds to one of the 4 faction lists below.
2. The moderator rolls a random number from 1 to the number of entries in the corresponding list to determine what is present in the game.
3. The moderator rolls an additional number on the True Groupscum list.

One faction from any of the lists. One faction from True Groupscum. Town. Those are the three factions.

As I said, I might be misunderstanding how flavour works. My understanding was that 'Miller', 'Cop', 'Mason', etc would be changed to match whichever faction it is reflecting/investigating/excluding. For example, in the Dark Creatures entry, Miller is listed as 'Abyssal'. So my expectation is that your card would read Universal Must-Pick Abyssal. So either I'm wrong about how the role flavourings work (which, I'll be honest, is definitely a possibility), or we're in a setup where you would return as a Guardian/Conspirator (since those are the only two groupscum that would have Miller as Miller), or you're antitown who wanted to claim miller early but didn't know about miller flavour, and it's this last possibility that has me so fixated on sorting your claim.

I think your understanding of most of the Miller roles is correct, but Herta's role just so happens to be an exception - the

official name

of the role is "Universal Miller", the role just

investigates

as e.g. Dark Creature to relevant Cops, and Vanilla to relevant Rolecops. If it helps, think of the Role as being named "Universally Suspicious Person" rather than "Universal Miller".

VOTE: kyoko

Game is kind of dead and I get that, but you're still talking about lich's list and I think the focus on that is scummy

It's the awkward period when RVS is over but there are still no leads. That's why is dead. Also I don't think there's much else to talk about, the list is pretty big as far as content goes so far.

Why not make some content yourself?

I'm a quite reactive player, I do better when people talk about stuff and I can engage, if the game is dead then I sleep.

[KittyTacky]

I'll re-read and figure out if TL is a good vote rn.

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

Well there's second role: Meta Janitor. But it was probably stated.

so why is NM exempt of this

Because role wielder choose so.

that's possible?

Multitargeting Meta Janitor

When you pick this card, give me a list of any number of players. All of these players will have their public discard redacted. You may self target.

My inclination is whoever did it wanted to make NM look bad.

[Herta]

I'm guessing you haven't played with not mafia in the past couple of years.

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