My interpretations of interactions with the deceased WitchIn post 849, Kaito Momota wrote:Based on what?In post 841, furtiveglance wrote: I think we can assume Gimli, Wednesday, Fuyu, Kyoko and Kokichi are all town
Open 871 - The Haunted Village | Postgame
-
-
furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8683
- Joined: January 29, 2022
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UK
-
-
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 307
- Joined: September 15, 2018
Why?In post 847, PenguinPower wrote:
although I probably would have bussed nmIn post 845, PenguinPower wrote:
Nope - I hard bus a lot as scum.In post 844, furtiveglance wrote: Penguin can probably ruled out due to voting bianco early on"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
-
PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
- .peng
- .peng
- Posts: 24876
- Joined: June 15, 2016
- Pronoun: He/Him
-
-
Kokichi Oma Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11839
- Joined: October 22, 2017
Uhh. Not reallyIn post 841, furtiveglance wrote: I think we can assume Gimli, Wednesday, Fuyu, Kyoko and Kokichi are all townHow do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
-
Kokichi Oma Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11839
- Joined: October 22, 2017
Also we should not vote anyone out today, we are at even numbers and have a chance to get results. The lone mafia is forced to kill and bring it back to even numbers.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
-
Kokichi Oma Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11839
- Joined: October 22, 2017
worst case scenario we go from 4 way no clear to 3 way no clear this way.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
-
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 307
- Joined: September 15, 2018
That feels like a long shot. I don’t think voting someone out is critical but I also think it’s fine to do so"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
-
Wednesday Addams She/HerGoonShe/Her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 214
- Joined: December 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
I’ve heard a fair bit about this even/odd number thing but still don’t understand it or why it’s relevant?In post 854, Kokichi Oma wrote: Also we should not vote anyone out today, we are at even numbers and have a chance to get results. The lone mafia is forced to kill and bring it back to even numbers.
I also don’t understand why a lim is necessarily bad since it’s not mlimlo?
If we can’t find scum than maybe but otherwise, don’t get it.-
-
Wednesday Addams She/HerGoonShe/Her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 214
- Joined: December 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
-
-
Kyoko Kirigiri SheGoonShe
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 866
- Joined: January 18, 2023
- Pronoun: She
We have strong town reads right now based on what happened and current elims. We need to go for elim as if we kill scum we win and if we don't we'll reduce the suspected player base count so our power roles can clear the rest if possible.
Not going for elim right now where we have such a huge advantage gives us nothing.-
-
Kyoko Kirigiri SheGoonShe
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 866
- Joined: January 18, 2023
- Pronoun: She
I am town reading furtive gimli wednsday and kokichi STD on next tier
We can all tell our town reads and work on PoE. We have a lot of information based on the events that happened in day 1 to sort this based on. Why would we want to skip?-
-
Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7770
- Joined: August 30, 2020
- Pronoun: he/him
kyoko/wed
furtive
kuzu
kokichi
maki
STD/penguin
kaito
my reads are looking like this RN. the spaces between them denotes the distance in how much I'm townreading them.
Agree with kyoko we must flip people today instead of holding. it is both the right mechanical play, because we have all town alive to work on the game, and because its more fun that way, and I'll choose fun over 'right play' if the right play is tanking the game and making people disinterested in it.-
-
Wednesday Addams She/HerGoonShe/Her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 214
- Joined: December 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
Yeah, unless it’s milo, there’s no reason to give scum the advantage right now.
Kaito, can you give us some reads?-
-
PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
- .peng
- .peng
- Posts: 24876
- Joined: June 15, 2016
- Pronoun: He/Him
or we just wait and see if we get to f4 and if so holster the yeet then (if it helps)In post 855, Kokichi Oma wrote: worst case scenario we go from 4 way no clear to 3 way no clear this way.
no reason to do so today<(") | (")>-
-
Kokichi Oma Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11839
- Joined: October 22, 2017
No, this is the bad play because at that point mafia either knows who the PR is and can roleblock them and they arent forced to kill anymore. this way we guarantee 3 people instead of 4 people at the end. It's the correct mechanical play.In post 863, PenguinPower wrote:
or we just wait and see if we get to f4 and if so holster the yeet then (if it helps)In post 855, Kokichi Oma wrote: worst case scenario we go from 4 way no clear to 3 way no clear this way.
no reason to do so todayHow do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
-
PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
- .peng
- .peng
- Posts: 24876
- Joined: June 15, 2016
- Pronoun: He/Him
well..
1.) unless you've already asked marashu, you are making an assumption as to how the mod will deal with a happily ever after scenario
2.) even/odds only matter in the final rounds
3.) assuming mafia will know the PR(s) (not sure how you can say this with certainty)
4.) you're assuming the PR(s) is/are still valuable/hasn't already had an impact
and;
5.) assuming that we don't have a doc that could keep it on evens...
I do not see how no yeeting is mechanically correct today...so instead of repeating it you could try harder or just accept that it's not<(") | (")>-
-
Save The Dragons He/HimProtection unnecessaryHe/Him
- Protection unnecessary
- Protection unnecessary
- Posts: 22713
- Joined: April 26, 2004
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: WA, USA
id rather just kill the last scum and be done-
-
Kaito Momota Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 612
- Joined: October 22, 2017
-
-
Kyoko Kirigiri SheGoonShe
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 866
- Joined: January 18, 2023
- Pronoun: She
yeah
and they purchased a role blocker and a role cop. We had a JOAT so far
whats so important about that info that needed bolding by you?-
-
Kaito Momota Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 612
- Joined: October 22, 2017
Town: Kyoko, Kokichi, Wednesday, Gimli, FurtiveIn post 862, Wednesday Addams wrote: Kaito, can you give us some reads?
Less sure: Penguinpower, Save the Dragons
Possible mafia: Fuyuhiko, Maki-
-
PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
- .peng
- .peng
- Posts: 24876
- Joined: June 15, 2016
- Pronoun: He/Him
Awesome. I can read too.
<(") | (")>-
-
Wednesday Addams She/HerGoonShe/Her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 214
- Joined: December 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
This list doesn’t look great for either Kaito or Maki. Maki is left out completely but the Kaito read is strange. He seems to like Kaito but fails to give him any kind of rating.In post 208, biancospino wrote: Here's the wall. In nice spoiler so that it won't fill the screen.
Spoiler: Wednesday
Spoiler: STD
Spoiler: Penguin
What strikes me as bizarre was bianco saying he really liked that Kaito wasn’t “hard townreading [him]”. but like why would he even have that thought since I don’t think Kaito had even given any reads at this point but will cross check, just to make sure.-
-
Wednesday Addams She/HerGoonShe/Her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 214
- Joined: December 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
Okay, here’s Kaito’s bianco read.In post 88, Kaito Momota wrote: Here is my spin on bianco:
They seem like a person who is putting a lot of effort in. That's not a bad thing, just an observation. Their post 48 seemed like they were saying whatever came to their mind to me.
Post 49 by Saihara Shuichi takes issue with that by pointing out that they aren't saying much, but I think that is just a side effect of writing out their thoughts at the time.
I disagree with post 50 by Kyoko Kirigiri. Specifically, the assertion that post 48 was putting events in the way bianco wanted them; I'm not seeing that, and I don't think shading people is inherently suspicious-
-
Wednesday Addams She/HerGoonShe/Her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 214
- Joined: December 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
More praise for bianco.In post 259, Kaito Momota wrote:
There is a lot of thought put into this post, and it seems genuineIn post 208, biancospino wrote:Here's the wall. In nice spoiler so that it won't fill the screen.
Spoiler: Wednesday
Spoiler: STD
Spoiler: Penguin-
-
Wednesday Addams She/HerGoonShe/Her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 214
- Joined: December 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
Okay, probably an exercise in futility since the only thing actually suspicious is coming from bianco and not Kaito.In post 463, Kaito Momota wrote:
I like this post and have also been liking Bianco recentlyIn post 351, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:just some fast surface level - skimming - reads
I actually like gimli's way of engaging with people and making content, I feel he has a progressive mindset and is actually trying to solve in a genuine way (call it mostly gut)
I like biancospino more. I think what he did on that first post aligns well with rest of his play style (and specially how he organized that wall) and I find his consistency in his way of sorting things + town
I didn't like Wednesday posts. felt so shallow and on surface and didn't have any analyzing, just for sake of engaging. wanna see were it leads
maki not liking my going hard on biancospino in an attempt to start actual discussions and provoke reactions is an interesting reaction cause its against the flow of reactions that are about it in-game thread. I say interesting cause its probably + towny behavior but need to analyze it along size more clues to be able to brand it as towny or null.
I have some ideas in general about most other slots too, but I'm too tired right now as I had the toughest past 2 days ever and am sleepy right now
I'm just lazy/busy doing other stuff. I saw that people were voting for me, likely for being low effort, nothing much for me to comment on withoutIn post 356, furtiveglance wrote:Kaito didn't acknowledge these votes in their most recent appearance. Granted I didn't make a case so there wasn't much to respond to, but it's weird they didn't even comment on it.
In post 374, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:Browbeating isn’t exactly a scumtell, it’s just a behavioral pattern. I liked Dragons pointing it out because I had also been rather perturbed by the stern reaction to my question about the townblock. I also think his saying you didn’t give a fuck who is scum was reading into your post to see something that wasn’t there, but it also might still hold a kernel of truth given your apparent lack of interest in finding scum outside the players currently suspecting you.
And I don’t understand why you place such value on Maki’s reads. Seems meta-related, which raises a question of why you’re so concerned about staying secret whilst not really caring to veil your own meta usage.In post 375, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:VOTE: Wednesday Addams
Thinking about it I might still be on Dragons so I’ll vote here to rectify that.
This push feels like it comes from town because it pushes on somebody who is likely to suspect them in return for doing so, and a few people have voiced suspicions on Fuyuhiko alreadyIn post 379, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:I think it’s absolutely understandable for me to think you’re scum even if Gimli is browbeating you. Bad-faith interactions don’t preclude a person from being scum. And your way you described yourself alongside your lack of interest in forming scumreads that actually go beyond “you suspect me so I suspect you” makes me feel like you could be scum that is just a tad too candid.
I still think it’s weird that he never gave Kaito any rating.
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.