Mini Normal 2288: Frogsterking Notes PT
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[redFF] watcher maybe?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Subject: Mini Normal 2288: Reposting Same Picture As Flavor Are Lame
HmmIn post 390, Kowahbunga wrote: I've been reading everything. Trying to find something to care about, but there's nothing. I don't have it in me to BS a read on someone off of any of what's being said. And that's exactly what any read I give you would be at this point, pure BS. I have no clue who is scum and D1 could last another 6 years and I still wouldn't find any reason to scum read anyone. The only reason I have a scum read on Andante has been mentioned, and it's there and it's what I'm going with until I have information that tells me something else.
There are literally no questions I could ask or answer that are going to make me town lean or scum lean any of you right now. I've played this game enough to know that I don't have this apparent foresight that so many appear to have D1 to know and solve the game. You know how I solve a game? Information. You know what I have absolutely zero of? Information.
So I'm just going to tell you how I wish this game was played and I look forward to seeing all of you tell me it's the wrong way to play.
First off, D1 should be a quick no elimination. A quick no elimination in D1 does so much for town, in my opinion. First it tells scum nothing, they already have more information than us to start, and the only way we win is to pass the amount of information they have. So give them no extra information D1 to focus a kill and make it completely random so they have to get even more lucky than usual to kill someone important. More times than not, because I would imagine there's going to be more not so useful town powers than useful town powers, town will escape N1 without any awful deaths, allowing their powers to get a night of free actions. That means information!
Also, I would wager quite a bit of money that most D1 eliminations hit a town player. And I'd wager a lot of money that most N1s end with a night kill on a town player. Start D2 with 50% less deaths to town. I mean is it even pro-town to lynch on D1? Knowing that it's practically random at that point?
I dunno, I just wish D1 would be spent entirely making it D2 as fast as possible.
Anyways, I look forward to being scum read for my opinions on how the game should be played. Don't feel bad about it, it always happens when I make this post.
I don't have any reads on anyone else. There will never be a list today. It will all be in the moment. I will look at wagons, and I will question weird votes. I will decide if I believe role claims and results when they're presented.
In fact, just consider this intent to hammer the first E1 I see. Even if it's me.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Frogsterking He/himJack of All TradesHe/him
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Sounds like Town.In post 393, Kowahbunga wrote:
Well, they forgot to carry a one or round the decimal or something. Maybe they forgot to multiply by logic.In post 391, redFF wrote: Kow your opinion here is wrong on NL day 1. They did the math many years ago.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Firebringer is scum IMOBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Firebringer, GamerGryff, redFF is my D1 solve for scum teamBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Frogsterking He/himJack of All TradesHe/him
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My guess is that this means Lazy Shirou and PenguinPower will be NKed and scum will attempt to mislim Andante.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Do they have the correct role read on the Hider or do they just think it's a TPR?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Maybe not D1 but like D2 or D3 mislim Andante.In post 31, Frogsterking wrote:My guess is that this means Lazy Shirou and PenguinPower will be NKed and scum will attempt to mislim Andante.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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I think Firebringer, Klick and redFF are scum.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Subject: Mini Normal 2288: Reposting Same Picture As Flavor Are Lame
White Knighting him, yeahIn post 710, PenguinPower wrote: klick is still defending gryff, right?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Klick is posting a lot so it's hard to tell but if scum already figured everything out then Klick!scum makes sense if he's motivated.
Maybe Klick is the Watcher?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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And Town hammers their protective D1 RIPBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Oh no that Gamma hammer is brutal in more ways than one. The scum influence seems strong because from where I'm sitting Gamma looked like a clear TPR.
This looks like a scum sweep. I'm expecting Andante to get miseliminated.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Also, it's exciting to see "Announcing Lazy Hider" finally as a flip.
I'm expecting a Penguin kill if my Fire-Klick-redFF solve is correct.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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I could see Fire-Klick-RedwalllBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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It's not Protective i think.In post 37, Frogsterking wrote: And Town hammers their protective D1 RIP
Hider mostly useless in hands of people who are not trusted or bad at the game. And insanely powerful in hands of these who can deduce whole mafiateam.Wizard-Mercenary
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Frogsterking He/himJack of All TradesHe/him
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Do you consider Bulletproof to be a Protective? I guess I was kind of thinking of Hider like Bulletproof.In post 41, Enchant wrote:
It's not Protective i think.In post 37, Frogsterking wrote: And Town hammers their protective D1 RIP
Hider mostly useless in hands of people who are not trusted or bad at the game. And insanely powerful in hands of these who can deduce whole mafiateam.
In addition, how do you feel Town is doing overall in this game?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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My feeling is that Town is going to get sweeped.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Passive.In post 42, Frogsterking wrote:
Do you consider Bulletproof to be a Protective? I guess I was kind of thinking of Hider like Bulletproof.In post 41, Enchant wrote:
It's not Protective i think.In post 37, Frogsterking wrote: And Town hammers their protective D1 RIP
Hider mostly useless in hands of people who are not trusted or bad at the game. And insanely powerful in hands of these who can deduce whole mafiateam.
In addition, how do you feel Town is doing overall in this game?Wizard-Mercenary
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Well, they have like 4-5 days to realise.Wizard-Mercenary
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90% of mod work are counting Andante votesWizard-Mercenary
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In post 46, Enchant wrote: 90% of mod work are counting Andante votesBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Frogsterking He/himJack of All TradesHe/him
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Wow I have no idea how scum knew Brickwall was the Follower! That really sucks for Town. I'll have to read the scum chat after the game.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Frogsterking He/himJack of All TradesHe/him
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Subject: Mini Normal 2288: Reposting Same Picture As Flavor Are Lame
I love it!In post 1176, Kowahbunga wrote: You know what would be a cool feature on this forum, assuming it's not already and I'm just not noticing it? Is that as you read you can mark posts crap or not crap. Then you can read all the not crap posts to remove all the crap posts that mean nothing out of the way. Would probably shrink this 48 page game down to like 4.8 pages.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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