Mini 2287: AB:LoAF (Postgame)

[Kokichi Oma]

I discarded vanilla

Do you think it's likely both you and kirigiri got vanilla roles in a game with soooooo many roles?

[Kokichi Oma]

I think Kokichi is town

Can everyone stop townreading me, I don't wanna be night one kill this game.

K

VOTE: Koki

Thanks!

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

locktowning kokichi I think. suspicion over kyoko is good. suspicion over lich I still don't see it but it might just be things people scumread other people for that I don't, so.

I think sharing discards is an interesting idea. but does it make our actual roles more likely to reveal? like, the strength of them. making the game easier for scum at night, and whatnot. and does it help our wincon as townies to share such a thing? I think I'm against it.

My discard was vanilla town.

I know...

super important and most damning information right there but yes overall I'm not sure if its a good idea to claim discards either.

Do we know why they are almost all discarded anyway? I didn't have time to do the setup spec yet

Umm. I thought this was a game everyone gets a role that's not VT? Unless I'm mistaken.

Well, I got at least one vanilla option so you are mistaken

there are a lot of vanilla listed in possible roles

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

considering that kokichi and kyoko have very strong associatives... my vote is on kokichi because kokichi is an outright openwolf (and not in a jestery way)

what are our strong "associatives"

and why is kokichi an "open wolf"

[TemporalLich]

what are our strong "associatives"

and why is kokichi an "open wolf"

Your ISO is hard defending kokichi and you and kokichi are nearly impossible to tell apart

Kokichi is throwing out many scummy tactics and the associatives are strong and I see scummy mindset.

some examples:

68 - trying to sound NAI
76 - strange vote decision
248 - pocketing
249 - scummy mindset
316 - associative I believe, but only a weak one
347 - posturing and trying to avoid being the NK

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

what are our strong "associatives"

and why is kokichi an "open wolf"

Your ISO is hard defending kokichi and you and kokichi are nearly impossible to tell apart

Kokichi is throwing out many scummy tactics and the associatives are strong and I see scummy mindset.

some examples:

68 - trying to sound NAI
76 - strange vote decision
248 - pocketing
249 - scummy mindset
316 - associative I believe, but only a weak one
347 - posturing and trying to avoid being the NK

But I have never ever defended kokichi in any context even though I town lean him \o/ I just

asked you about your reads on the slot

repeatedly which tbh I'm not still satisfied with.

half of those are role playing kokichi character of danganropnpa and in no context open wolfing just so you know btw

[Yume]

I am still here, but am also busy, so...

[Gimli]

I can tell kyoko and kokichi apart

[Gimli]

lich, why is 249 scummy mindset?

[Gimli]

I am still here, but am also busy, so...

I still prefer eliminating yume from this game fwiw.

[Gimli]

kyoko, is lich a wolf?

[TemporalLich]

lich, why is 249 scummy mindset?

that post feels like distancing

[TemporalLich]

I still prefer eliminating yume from this game fwiw.

any case? Yume just looks like a lurker with a vote out of the blue.

[Gimli]

lich, why is 249 scummy mindset?

that post feels like distancing

see that's why I think you're town

that's absolutely focused on this world you created where kyoko and kokichi are both scum and, what's even worse, feel like the same player! and you can't tell them so apart, so you're not interpreting well at all. and that's why you're gonna end up being eliminated today, I think, because even though I'm townreading you, I've come to accept that my reasons are shaky.

[TemporalLich]

I'm only at E-2 it's not time to claim yet even though Not_Mafia is in this game and would probably lolhammer before I get a chance to claim

(softclaim: I'm a meta role)

[Gimli]

okay I think this is for the best.

TL, you either fullclaim now or I'm putting you on E-1. I think the best way we can play this out is either eliminate you or have your claim so we can absolutely move to different targets. you're not gonna convince anyone you're town by posting, I don't think.

[TemporalLich]

okay I think this is for the best.

TL, you either fullclaim now or I'm putting you on E-1. I think the best way we can play this out is either eliminate you or have your claim so we can absolutely move to different targets. you're not gonna convince anyone you're town by posting, I don't think.

claiming Meta-Neighbor

I discarded Extension

[Gimli]

okay I think this is for the best.

TL, you either fullclaim now or I'm putting you on E-1. I think the best way we can play this out is either eliminate you or have your claim so we can absolutely move to different targets. you're not gonna convince anyone you're town by posting, I don't think.

claiming Meta-Neighbor

I discarded Extension

okay

now the good players figure out if this is worth its salt and we either move elsewhere or do what y'all want

on yume, I think the fact that the slot has done absolutely nothing is enough to eliminate. this game has crazy factions, probably a smaller than usual amount of actual townies (I think?) so scumhunting is hard with different factions pushing for different things. an absent player becomes a reasonable choice, even though it's not one that gives the most information.

[TemporalLich]

on yume, I think the fact that the slot has done absolutely nothing is enough to eliminate. this game has crazy factions, probably a smaller than usual amount of actual townies (I think?) so scumhunting is hard with different factions pushing for different things. an absent player becomes a reasonable choice, even though it's not one that gives the most information.

this game could be multiball

I'd rather vote someone actively being scummy than someone with very little besides a vote that looks scummy, but if time pressure is a factor I am willing to vote Yume

[Gimli]

neither kyoko nor kokichi are being eliminated today, so if you have another scumread that could work better

[Gimli]

we have a gazillion days anyway, time isn't relevant

[TemporalLich]

gonna post another lead rist then:

[Town]

Gimli - Very likely town, good leader.
Doctor Drew - Quite towny.
Herta - Somewhat towny, there are towny posts from Herta.
KittyTacky - Seemingly towny still.
Aisa - Lean town, recent posts are okay.
Enchant - Recent posts are very slightly towny.
Not_Mafia - Still Not_Mafia.
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu - A bit scummy, but there is a clear towny trend.
Marashu - Still seemingly not townie, 157 is an okay post.
Yume - Lurker with a scummy vote... still no good content.
Kyoko Kirigiri - Scummy, likely co-aligned with Kokichi.
Kokichi Oma - Very scummy, likely co-aligned with Kyoko.

[Scum]

so yeah, Yume is indeed a good vote.

[Kokichi Oma]

okay I think this is for the best.

TL, you either fullclaim now or I'm putting you on E-1. I think the best way we can play this out is either eliminate you or have your claim so we can absolutely move to different targets. you're not gonna convince anyone you're town by posting, I don't think.

claiming Meta-Neighbor

I discarded Extension

Are you in a neighborhood now or is the first neighbor on N1? I forgot how that role works.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

kyoko, is lich a wolf?

They seem extremely consistent with their faulty logics and the way they produce them.

I have been asking specific questions to see if they can hold up or drop their consistency act but I've got nothing yet.

I still think they are scummy but I don't have a solid read on them

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Meta-neighbor

You have access to a meta-neighborhood PT with another random player if this card is one of the role cards you can pick.

If this card is picked, the meta-neighborhood PT will remain open. However, if this card is not picked, the meta-neighborhood PT is locked at the start of pregame.

Someone should be able to confirm liches claim right now

even though it means absolutely nothing about their alignment as roles are separate from alignment

this discard also means nothing about alignment cause who wouldn't discard it:

Extension

You can bind yourself to someone at night, for that night.
Anything that happens to that player due to actions at night(including visits and results), except conversions, also happens to you(but not the other way around). You will always know the people you visit.