HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[Gimli]

a question I have is why would scum start a SvT with someone that is promised to get vigged, it seems counterproductive somewhat so I'm not sure about the gamma read either. a lot of her posting I think is scummy though, but idk.

this feels like cap given you were townreading me yesterday

I'm flipping my reads a lot, you're not in my townpile though

[Killing Joke]

a question I have is why would scum start a SvT with someone that is promised to get vigged, it seems counterproductive somewhat so I'm not sure about the gamma read either. a lot of her posting I think is scummy though, but idk.

She’s literally blaming us for pushing the HPE wagon. That would actually make sense wrt to STD but I was debating on voting Dan and we were the hammer so Gamma trying to blame me for that is disingenuous and scummy.

In Terminator she blew up at me but in LOST she engaged in comparible manipulation techniques. When Joker voted her, had she reacted similarly to either Terminator or even Cards of Destiny, I would have unvoted.

[Gamma Emerald]

a question I have is why would scum start a SvT with someone that is promised to get vigged, it seems counterproductive somewhat so I'm not sure about the gamma read either. a lot of her posting I think is scummy though, but idk.

this feels like cap given you were townreading me yesterday

I'm flipping my reads a lot, you're not in my townpile though

fine

[Killing Joke]

I believe BBT and Eiralox will join me here.

How about this Gamma, I now feel so confident you’re going to flip scum now, I volunteer for BBT’s vig.

I'm open to that
but you have not actually addressed any accusations thrown your way I feel, you've only really deflected

You basically accused me of being majorly responsible for HPE wagon which is untrue.

[Gamma Emerald]

a question I have is why would scum start a SvT with someone that is promised to get vigged, it seems counterproductive somewhat so I'm not sure about the gamma read either. a lot of her posting I think is scummy though, but idk.

She’s literally blaming us for pushing the HPE wagon. That would actually make sense wrt to STD but I was debating on voting Dan and we were the hammer so Gamma trying to blame me for that is disingenuous and scummy.

In Terminator she blew up at me but in LOST she engaged in comparible manipulation techniques. When Joker voted her, had she reacted similarly to either Terminator or even Cards of Destiny, I would have unvoted.

I said this during and after LOST: do not try to read me this way. Because you seriously don't fucking want me "blowing up". If you wait for an indeterminate amount of time I can show you EXACTLY why you shouldn't.

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe BBT and Eiralox will join me here.

How about this Gamma, I now feel so confident you’re going to flip scum now, I volunteer for BBT’s vig.

I'm open to that
but you have not actually addressed any accusations thrown your way I feel, you've only really deflected

You basically accused me of being majorly responsible for HPE wagon which is untrue.

if it wasn't you then who was pushing it?

[Killing Joke]

2.16

Votecount 2.16 (Final)

HighPrincessErinys (8):

Titus, Gamma Emerald, BlueBloodedToffee, Gimli, Elements, Radical Rat, Flea The Magician, Killing Joke.

Gimli (1):

Malakittens.

Bellaphant (1):

ActionDan.

Killing Joke (1):

Eiralox.

Malakittens (1):

HighPrincessErinys.

ActionDan (1):

Bellaphant.

Not Voting (1):

Enchant.

With 14 players alive, it took 8 to eliminate someone.

Mod Notes

• Combined Mod ISO
  
• Gimli, Bellaphant, Gamma Emerald and Titus are on V/LA

I guess I can't exactly say I was too sick to function atp, but I still was not confident on HPE flipping scum, nowhere near the amount KJ was pushing it

We’re the goddamn hammer. Quote those posts where we were doing that.

[Killing Joke]

I believe BBT and Eiralox will join me here.

How about this Gamma, I now feel so confident you’re going to flip scum now, I volunteer for BBT’s vig.

I'm open to that
but you have not actually addressed any accusations thrown your way I feel, you've only really deflected

You basically accused me of being majorly responsible for HPE wagon which is untrue.

if it wasn't you then who was pushing it?

Did you not read or are you pretending not to know? I’m sorry you’re not feeling well but that’s not an acceptable excuse for misrepping us.

[Gamma Emerald]

I remember you were calling HPE scum early in Day 2
I don't know what was going on end of day as well.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sorry but if you can avoid having to justify old reads by "I literally cannot remember" I can be excused for incorrectly thinking you kept acting on your HPE suspicion from early in Day 2.

[Flea The Magician]

2.16

Votecount 2.16 (Final)

HighPrincessErinys (8):

Titus, Gamma Emerald, BlueBloodedToffee, Gimli, Elements, Radical Rat, Flea The Magician, Killing Joke.

Gimli (1):

Malakittens.

Bellaphant (1):

ActionDan.

Killing Joke (1):

Eiralox.

Malakittens (1):

HighPrincessErinys.

ActionDan (1):

Bellaphant.

Not Voting (1):

Enchant.

With 14 players alive, it took 8 to eliminate someone.

Mod Notes

• Combined Mod ISO
  
• Gimli, Bellaphant, Gamma Emerald and Titus are on V/LA

I guess I can't exactly say I was too sick to function atp, but I still was not confident on HPE flipping scum, nowhere near the amount KJ was pushing it

Apparently I'm just farting into the wind...

[Radical Rat]

Ultimately no one was really pushing for HPE except Titus. It was more just a case of no one agreeing on scumreads so we all settled for someone no one was really townreading instead because we were out of time and Titus being conftown meant at least she wasn't lying about the suspicions.

[Killing Joke]

Ultimately no one was really pushing for HPE except Titus. It was more just a case of no one agreeing on scumreads so we all settled for someone no one was really townreading instead because we were out of time and Titus being conftown meant at least she wasn't lying about the suspicions.

Yeah that’s what’s bothering me. I would have expected town!Gamma to try to convince us we’re wrong and only if we didn’t listen would she vote us but no, her immediate reaction was to bs shade us.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think KJ's play is sus, why would I try to convince scum they're wrong?

[Gamma Emerald]

2.16

Votecount 2.16 (Final)

HighPrincessErinys (8):

Titus, Gamma Emerald, BlueBloodedToffee, Gimli, Elements, Radical Rat, Flea The Magician, Killing Joke.

Gimli (1):

Malakittens.

Bellaphant (1):

ActionDan.

Killing Joke (1):

Eiralox.

Malakittens (1):

HighPrincessErinys.

ActionDan (1):

Bellaphant.

Not Voting (1):

Enchant.

With 14 players alive, it took 8 to eliminate someone.

Mod Notes

• Combined Mod ISO
  
• Gimli, Bellaphant, Gamma Emerald and Titus are on V/LA

I guess I can't exactly say I was too sick to function atp, but I still was not confident on HPE flipping scum, nowhere near the amount KJ was pushing it

Apparently I'm just farting into the wind...

Am I meant to do something with this?

[Gamma Emerald]

it's not a problem if you're posting just to post but make that clearer if that's the case

[Gamma Emerald]

it's not a problem if you're posting just to post but make that clearer if that's the case

please?

[Killing Joke]

I am insisting on Princess and BBT today as of now.

Have you considered ActionDan?

Can you make an effort to explain what drew your attention to Princess and BBT? I know it has to do with some combination of NKA and VCA.

Frog did a lickerts scale early and basically seemed to realise I liked nice people so was nice and eira had a role where she could message people over night, but it was a scum role: I was totally pocketed for two day phases on eira, and frog had claimed Dr - this also makes me wary of eliming/not eliming by mech rather than play, as in my last game with rats and Nancy, I wcun read both of them day one but both claimed prs and got further than they should have in their play.

I want to ask frog in particular why they pooh-poohed my critic of the stale wagons?

I think the particular line of reasoning that was used "scum must be happy with gamestate because thread is quiet" is anti town. In hindsight I realize you had a point about the wagons being suboptimal. I think I should have asked you why you didn't think the existing wagons were a good idea, I think I missed an opportunity to collaborate by not asking you and Mala about your reads EoD 1. I agree on principle that deeply considering four different candidates is a good approach D1 for Town and maybe D2, etc. as well, so I think I definitely misplayed in that way too by failing to bring up common ground wrt where you expressed interest in taking the game. I guess in summary I believe that the specific suggestion you and Dragons made was anti town and my being on tunnel vision and missing opportunities to collaborate were both anti town.

Which low activity slots do you think have the highest chance of flipping scum, Bella?

@HPE, while you're here can you post the full reads list I've been kindly asking for?

Also, did you do a Tarot reading yet for Titus since she drew a Black Spot?

Titus (duh)
Flea
Bella
Gamma, ActionDan
Eiralox
--Yonder Neutral Line--
Gimli
BBT
Radical Rat, Enchant
--Yonder Scum Line--
Malakittens, kinda? Eh.
Killing Joke, Elements. Killing one will probably exonerate the other imho


This one will draw a card for Titus after it lays down for a spell. No pun intended.

IDK, your solve is Malakittens, Killing Joke, Elements? That sounds a little hokey. Where is the evidence FMPOV that you've been solving?

Also, why do you think that Gamma, ActionDan and Elements are resisting my request for them to post a full reads list?

What do you mean by that question? Are you asking for this one to elaborate or is that a rhetorical question?
Confidentiality probably, also. This one would like to see read lists in general from them (esp Elements) but it thinks its kinda inevitable that some people will keep some reads close to their chest for a while. So, eh. Squeezing Elements for all she's worth as well as YOU is what this one would like to see most before it drops dead.


As for Titus's card:

Two of Wands

- Future planning, progress, decisions, discovery.

Yeah this makes quite a bit of sense considering Tracker. No comment on 'future planning' on someone who's destined to die at the end of the day.

Yes I want you to explain why you think the scum team is Elements, our slot and Malakittens because that theory sounds really janky and I want to hear your rationale.

VOTE: Radical Rat

Yup.

Show me a better vote and I'll show you a barnacle in a top hat.

Why here instead of ActionDan? Do you Town read BBT and HPE?

Yup so right Gamma, we were very clearly hardpushing HPE wagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have acknowledged that I was wrong, and provided a reason as to why. It doesn't change that your responses to pressure suck, but it does mean you continuing to beat this dead horse of an argument is serving no purpose other than to try and sling mud.

[Killing Joke]

I have acknowledged that I was wrong, and provided a reason as to why. It doesn't change that your responses to pressure suck, but it does mean you continuing to beat this dead horse of an argument is serving no purpose other than to try and sling mud.

We’re slinging mud? You’re falsely accusing us of hardpushing HPE wagon and if that was even your real reason for voting, you’d know that other slots pushed HPE a lot harder than we did, so you outright misrepped us. The fact that you won’t even own up to your vote being clear omgus doesn’t sit well with me either.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: *Sighs in fart*

Given Wayward was on StD and you were on HPE as well, wanna rethink this one a bit?

I would have unvoted if I wasn’t too sick to function.

Thats valid, you did manage to dodge a prod though so "game advancing content" was presumably made.

Does seem very must "just" on the missing prods, there is a couple 2 day gaps having a closer look at timestamps on ISO... I've gone digging for the "game advancing content". I know you wouldn't pull this just to get out of things, brain is an ass and I am paranoid -.-;

I'm not gunna comment more, because I know I'm in spicy brain and I know I get bad when I'm unwell by any means. Hope you're better soon <3

In fact you know something fuck it, I hate myself for this, but while you're ill you're not inactive in game.

You're clearly reading and responding to things, your worse days start with "i'll make a reads list" and continue with "I'd kill frog" and some admittedly short pointed answers, but you're active.

[Flea The Magician]

Tbf KJ's got this better than I have at this point, I'm going to my hammock.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have acknowledged that I was wrong, and provided a reason as to why. It doesn't change that your responses to pressure suck, but it does mean you continuing to beat this dead horse of an argument is serving no purpose other than to try and sling mud.

We’re slinging mud? You’re falsely accusing us of hardpushing HPE wagon and if that was even your real reason for voting, you’d know that other slots pushed HPE a lot harder than we did, so you outright misrepped us. The fact that you won’t even own up to your vote being clear omgus doesn’t sit well with me either.

I have been aiming to sort you so to call my vote OMGUS is misrep. That's right I can do that right back. But I think my calling misrep is more based since you're trying to act like I mainly voted you for the HPE thing, but that wasn't the case at all. I will continue to repeat until you address it; the reason I'm voting you is because you do not respond to pressure outside of to call those pushing you bad and/or scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: *Sighs in fart*

Given Wayward was on StD and you were on HPE as well, wanna rethink this one a bit?

I would have unvoted if I wasn’t too sick to function.

Thats valid, you did manage to dodge a prod though so "game advancing content" was presumably made.

Does seem very must "just" on the missing prods, there is a couple 2 day gaps having a closer look at timestamps on ISO... I've gone digging for the "game advancing content". I know you wouldn't pull this just to get out of things, brain is an ass and I am paranoid -.-;

I'm not gunna comment more, because I know I'm in spicy brain and I know I get bad when I'm unwell by any means. Hope you're better soon <3

In fact you know something fuck it, I hate myself for this, but while you're ill you're not inactive in game.

You're clearly reading and responding to things, your worse days start with "i'll make a reads list" and continue with "I'd kill frog" and some admittedly short pointed answers, but you're active.

Tbf KJ's got this better than I have at this point, I'm going to my hammock.

KJ is at least communicating more effectively but neither of you are fucking listening at this point.
I had assumed KJ went through with the early D2 push they had on HPE. I see now that I was wrong. To continue trying to make things about it is a scumclaim imo.

[Radical Rat]

It's still really strange that you would just assume something like that, then base your scumread on that assumption, then when it becomes apparent you were falsely accusing someone double down because their reaction was bad, all the while explicitly dodging responsibility for your own vote.

It's just not a good look