Mini 2287: AB:LoAF (Postgame)

[Aisa]

Oh right, and: too scummy to be scum doesn't really do much for me. Thanks for explaining though Gimli.

[TemporalLich]

Well, I do. You literally saw me play that way in the last temple game, so....

???

and you actually had content that game apparently according to 523.

Then are you Vampire? Because I agree with Gimli you're acting like you want to be elim'd this game. I can't find one towny thing you've done and I've been looking for something.

if it isn't clear... no I'm not

Why do you think your neighbor Doctor wants you elim'd? Do you think they could be scum/third party?

I'm assuming the obvious reason of distancing, but Doctor Drew did back up my claim so distancing isn't a good reason... so I have -20% of an idea.

@TemporalLich the neighbourhood seems pretty important to you. Any progress there yet?

Nothing actually interesting yet sadly... Doctor Drew seems to think I'm a jester so we have opposing goals for the neighborhood.

[TemporalLich]

basically, I'm treating Doctor Drew as cleared so I'm unwilling to push Doctor Drew.

[Marashu]

I'm against going for Yume because there's nothing there. There's no content worth mentioning in the ISO, and no game-advancing content from Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:47 am - Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:14 pm (the post on Jan 31 was a prodge at best).

I'm fascinated by N_M voting for KT. Someone with better meta on N_M, is this something town!N_M would do? Or is this just a game-advancing prodge?

I think I'm ready to vote TL. I would vote it now but I'm kinda curious to see if KT will be delivering the promised catch-up from 504. I know there would be more time to do a catch-up during the night, but this way at least we're holding KT accountable. But if nobody else wants to wait I'd be fine with TL being the D1 elimination.

TL, can you explain to me why Gimli is obvtown?

[Gimli]

Oh right, and: too scummy to be scum doesn't really do much for me. Thanks for explaining though Gimli.

he is playing. is it all a bit scummy? yeah maybe, but the game would be much harder without TL. I really don't want him gone, not on d1. and I don't think yume and kitty are just lurker =rand slots. I think they're both >rand scum.

having nights with no flips benefits us eliminating players who aren't playing the game first. flipping TL won't make the game more interesting, but might dry our conversations even more.

[TemporalLich]

TL, can you explain to me why Gimli is obvtown?

If I have to actually explain that than Gimli isn't obvtown... but here is an explanation: Gimli is an extremely good town leader with very high charisma, is a shining beacon of towniness, has good cases like 453, 491, and 523, and produces a lot of content.

I actually read Gimli as more towny than Doctor Drew who I'm treating as

cleared

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pedit: I'd say Yume is a scummy lurker, however KT is scummy because he is coasting and merely appearing to have content.

[Gimli]

if you're pocketing me it's working, Lich. thanks either way

[Marashu]

I'm against going for Yume because there's nothing there. There's no content worth mentioning in the ISO, and no game-advancing content from Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:47 am - Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:14 pm (the post on Jan 31 was a prodge at best).

Realized my reasoning was unclear. I don't think activity is indicative of alignment, and would rather not risk losing a townie just because they aren't playing. At the same time, this shouldn't be condoned and I understand why this could be a policy elim. I'd rather just try finding scum, though.

PEdit - yeah, I could see that regarding KT. I'd also be ok with a KT elimination.

[Gimli]

I think I'm sitting alone in that KT wagon, appreciate people joining me there

[Herta]

Ya we can do that.

VOTE: kittytacky

[TemporalLich]

considering that KT actually gives a little bit of info (namely, KT and Gimli are highly unlikely to be co-aligned groupscum ignoring Gimli being obvtown), KT is a more economical vote.

VOTE: KittyTacky

I have around equal preference for a KT or Yume elim.

[Doctor Drew]

Agreed that Gimli and KT are almost guaranteed to not be same alignment.

Hey, maybe first instincts were correct.

VOTE: KT

End of D1 when under fire is quite the time for TL to come alive and making some sense at least

[Gimli]

Agreed that Gimli and KT are almost guaranteed to not be same alignment.

unless he is a townie!

[Kokichi Oma]

basically, I'm treating Doctor Drew as cleared so I'm unwilling to push Doctor Drew.

Bad logic. If Doctor Drew is scum, he would have to confirm your hood regardless. If he didn't and then you were proved to be a Town Neighbor then Doctor would be elim'd right after. I think them proving the neighborhood is NAI

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm fascinated by N_M voting for KT. Someone with better meta on N_M, is this something town!N_M would do? Or is this just a game-advancing prodge?

From all the time i've known N_M this is pretty much what they do regardless of alignment. Think they are always a good vig shot though if we have one. But we won't have night for 2 days anyway.

[Marashu]

That's E-2 for KT, by the way

[Kokichi Oma]

Well that was a quick swing to Kitty

[Kokichi Oma]

Took days for TL to get to E-2 but Kitty gets there almost immediately. I'm going to iso Kitty.

[TemporalLich]

Bad logic. If Doctor Drew is scum, he would have to confirm your hood regardless. If he didn't and then you were proved to be a Town Neighbor then Doctor would be elim'd right after. I think them proving the neighborhood is NAI

Considering that I townread Doctor Drew, treating Doctor Drew as if they were cleared is useful for neighborhood purposes.

[Kokichi Oma]

Quick read is basically just pushing on TL and then not much content after. I'm willing to wait for their catchup at least. We still have time and they said tomorrow.

[Kokichi Oma]

Bad logic. If Doctor Drew is scum, he would have to confirm your hood regardless. If he didn't and then you were proved to be a Town Neighbor then Doctor would be elim'd right after. I think them proving the neighborhood is NAI

Considering that I townread Doctor Drew, treating Doctor Drew as if they were cleared is useful for neighborhood purposes.

Townreading is fine, but just stating why that logic is bad for 'clearing'

[Doctor Drew]

Quick read is basically just pushing on TL and then not much content after. I'm willing to wait for their catchup at least. We still have time and they said tomorrow.

Do we have time? And what if they don't catch up tomorrow?

[Kokichi Oma]

Then I'll be fine with settling

[MegAzumarill]

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[MegAzumarill]

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