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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:59 pm

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In post 596, KittyTacky wrote: I picked it over my discard because I'm less likely to get townies killed and I could kill a bulletproof scum or something.
So basically if you are shot by scum you shoot them instead?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:31 pm

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kitty whats that role exactly?

what does it mean if you perform a non vigilant action it will kill?

that means if they targeting others with any non killing actions you will kill them?
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:57 pm

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Fun fact: KT's claim would basically be a Force of Nature during hail
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:58 pm

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In other words, highly confirmable in this setup
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:59 pm

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VOTE: Yume

KT claimed a trivially confirmable role
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:17 pm

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In post 604, TemporalLich wrote: VOTE: Yume

KT claimed a trivially confirmable role
and
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:31 pm

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In post 605, Enchant wrote:
In post 604, TemporalLich wrote: VOTE: Yume

KT claimed a trivially confirmable role
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the catch-up feels very NAI so I don't think KT is any scummier. Note that KT's claimed role is effectively a Force of Nature assuming a Vigilante would fail or be redirected, and one of Marashu's claimed abilities globally roleblocks (and refunds limited abilities). This combination is trivially confirmable and will result in a guaranteed nightkill.

Yume is now the more economical vote.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:43 pm

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I have hard time understanding this role
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:47 pm

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Wait i just realised how it works.

Okay.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:37 pm

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In post 600, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 596, KittyTacky wrote: I picked it over my discard because I'm less likely to get townies killed and I could kill a bulletproof scum or something.
So basically if you are shot by scum you shoot them instead?
It's like Veteran in Town of Salem but without defense.

Anyone who visits it dies unless healed or bulletproof, but if attacked it dies too. Not a very good role unless you are good at baiting scum into killing you. Which I am not.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:37 pm

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VOTE: Yuma
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:38 pm

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In post 601, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: kitty whats that role exactly?

what does it mean if you perform a non vigilant action it will kill?

that means if they targeting others with any non killing actions you will kill them?
My role does nothing, unless if I am roleblocked or my target is healed by a doctor, is bulletproof, or whatever. Then it strongman-kills them.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:39 pm

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I picked it over PGO because if I'm forced to have a chance to kill town then I'd like to kill town on my own terms and not because a poor TI walked into me.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:59 pm

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okay so we basically have a night now.

I think picking yume for the vigilante kill works as well, which makes it interesting if we could find someone else to eliminate today

@lich: why did you say your full claim would decrease your scum equity by a lot, when it's not the case?
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:17 am

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In post 613, Gimli wrote:@lich: why did you say your full claim would decrease your scum equity by a lot, when it's not the case?
that was about answering why pressuring Herta to elaborate on their miller claim was "role fishing" (rather, fishing for said elaboration)

that being said, I no longer have pressure on me and you're a good town leader so it would be worth answering... but I checked back and the "role fishing" accusation was completely baseless.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:25 am

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In post 614, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 613, Gimli wrote:@lich: why did you say your full claim would decrease your scum equity by a lot, when it's not the case?
that was about answering why pressuring Herta to elaborate on their miller claim was "role fishing" (rather, fishing for said elaboration)

that being said, I no longer have pressure on me and you're a good town leader so it would be worth answering... but I checked back and the "role fishing" accusation was completely baseless.
so you were just lying there to make pressure go away, yes? as a neighborizer.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:31 am

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In post 615, Gimli wrote:so you were just lying there to make pressure go away, yes? as a neighborizer.
I claimed meta-neighbor, not neighborizer.

anyway I apparently wasn't reading the game intently early D1... oh and that was when I was the only one getting pressure as well so I needed to deflect it... so yeah, after checking that claim, kyoko is now the one I scumread the most.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:44 am

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In post 611, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 601, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: kitty whats that role exactly?

what does it mean if you perform a non vigilant action it will kill?

that means if they targeting others with any non killing actions you will kill them?
My role does nothing, unless if I am roleblocked or my target is healed by a doctor, is bulletproof, or whatever. Then it strongman-kills them.
I still don't get it. You target someone. if they are targeted with non killing actions they strongman die?
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:48 am

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Basically it's Vigilante which works only when they should fail.

Example: They shot Bullet. If this bullet is blocked by something and target not die from it (for example HEALED), then target unavoidable oblitirated by laser beam. If this bullet hits (and target would die if this vig bullet was real), then it doesh't work.


I dunno how to explain simpler.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:51 am

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given hail, we have a guaranteed kill

and I think we should go for yume as the town's NK, and flip someone else today
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:54 am

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In post 619, Gimli wrote:
and I think we should go for yume as the town's NK, and flip someone else today

What difference
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:56 am

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if we flip yume instead then KT can still be a wolf and then kill someone we wouldn't and then go 'well i had a read' etc
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:59 am

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whatever
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:04 am

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In post 617, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 611, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 601, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: kitty whats that role exactly?

what does it mean if you perform a non vigilant action it will kill?

that means if they targeting others with any non killing actions you will kill them?
My role does nothing, unless if I am roleblocked or my target is healed by a doctor, is bulletproof, or whatever. Then it strongman-kills them.
I still don't get it. You target someone. if they are targeted with non killing actions they strongman die?
If they are targeted with healing actions, or I am roleblocked.

Actions that would not save them from a vig, like a cop check, do not cause them to die.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:05 am

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In post 621, Gimli wrote: if we flip yume instead then KT can still be a wolf and then kill someone we wouldn't and then go 'well i had a read' etc
VOTE: Kyoko Kirigiri

We have less than 36 hours left of the day... so time pressure is starting to be a factor.

Kyoko still has an associative with Kokichi, is not really a good case, and is a very bad defense. Kokichi also appears to be getting townier with being a good post.
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