Open 871 - The Haunted Village | Postgame

[Marashu]

Official Vote Count 3.01

Elimination

PenguinPower

(2): Gimli, furtiveglance

Not Voting

(6): Wednesday Addams, Save The Dragons, Maki Harukawa, Kokichi Oma, Kyoko Kirigiri, PenguinPower

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-02-09 21:37:25).

Mod notes:

• With 8 players alive,5 votes are required for elimination.

[Kokichi Oma]

If you’re curious I’m not lying mafia know my role already but I’m enchantress 1 point pr

That's nice but can you help solve this. what are your thoughts

[Maki Harukawa]

I suppose the correct play was to just let Kaito use another part of his role as I make him unblockable, but I think that's hindsight.

[Maki Harukawa]

If you’re curious I’m not lying mafia know my role already but I’m enchantress 1 point pr

That's nice but can you help solve this. what are your thoughts

I'm at you Kyoko Wed Gimi villagers.

[Maki Harukawa]

If the wolf is not in Save/Furt/Penguin I'm snowed.

[Gimli]

okay

we all have a similar scumpool of STD, furtive and penguin to work with

I'm fine clearing all the people maki is clearing as kyoko and kokichi have spewed themselves town this gameday (apart from being towny all game) and wed is just town

[Kokichi Oma]

If you’re curious I’m not lying mafia know my role already but I’m enchantress 1 point pr

That's nice but can you help solve this. what are your thoughts

I'm at you Kyoko Wed Gimi villagers.

Do you know if Wed is the type to pretend not knowing mechanics or capable of making it believable?

[Wednesday Addams]

but i wanna look at a certain 208 a little closer

Wednesday - my read is town. Bianco's read is 0.5 scum. conclusion -> trying to mislim.
STD - my role is town. Bianco's read is 0.75 scum. conclusion -> trying to mislim.
Penguin - my read is now ???. Bianco's 0.25 town. conclusion -> trying to hide potential partner.
furtive - my read is potential scum. Bianco forgot to tally. conclusion -> maybe bianco would tally their partner.
Gimli - my read is probably town????? Bianco has them at .75 scum. Conclusion -> maybe trying to mislim.
kokichi -> my read is town. Bianco's read is 1.25 town. Conclusion -> bianco's was pretending to tr kokichi correctly.
shuichi -> was town. Bianco's read is 1+ town. Conclusion -> Bianco's was pretending to tr shuichi correctly.
kyoko .-> i'm conflicted. Bianco's read is 1.5+ town. Conclusion -> bianco was probably pretending to tr kyoko correctly.
fuyuhiko -> was town. Bianco's read is 0.5 town. Conclusion -> bianco was pretending to tr fuyuhiko correctly.
others
kaito and NM are dead. if i looked at this post i probably wouldn't have assumed bianco put both partners in the others category. oops.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, would bianco put his buddy at 7.5 or 1.00+?

Scum tends to generally put their buddy at a null usually or close to it.

[Wednesday Addams]

why are you sus on kaito

88 is 3 quite neutral takes and something I'd expect to come from scum because it doesn't take strong stances wrt other players

Spoiler: Weds

Temple game was more about your predecessor, but I mean that your tone here is similar to there

I'm the same guy and that's like my tone. Wanna talk about temple game for a quick second? I replaced into a nightless nightmare with scum team practically conceding in scumchat. I put my funny hat and tried to have fun in it, I didn't have a plan or really tried swinging votes in another direction. Here I might be spamming nonsense just the same but I'm working the game as I do it. Also this is the first game I play from the start since my hiatus, the other 3 completed games I replaced in. More importantly, I want to win this particular game real bad, so I'm doing my thing.

Didn't mean to take a jab at you, I know the worst made himself obvious in that game though, and there was very little I could do to sway y'all from killing me.

I didn't realise all your completed games were replacement games, like I said in another game I thought you were an alt for a bit. I also really want to win this game, because I recently made a wiki page and my winrate is terrible. Besides, no deadlines for a month so...no work for the next week or two lol. Reading that post again I'm thinking that maybe I didn't say correctly what my problem was - it wasn't just 'level 1 thinking' or whatever but that you seemed to approaching the entire game in a really charitable and forgiving way, which doesn't match up with the towngame I saw in NY Dance Party. But I haven't seen you enter a completed game before so maybe it is style.

My vote isn't fixed on you, which it would be if I was really sure I was onto something. I haven't seen enough of everyone here to get a real feel for the game, but out of the players that have posted I'm probably most sus on Wednesday and Kaito so far. Saira (?) seems like quite a sharp player so one to keep an eye on.

Why are you suss on me?

Omgus on Gimli, and your entire ISO (until now) is about them apart from one alt-related post

Omgussing is nia for me but to refer to my vote as an “omguss” is inaccurate. I thought his vote on me was surfacey and not really based on much. I’m also in general - especially early game focused more on people either pushing me/voting me for what I think aren’t good reasons because you really don’t have a lot more to go on.

I mean yeah I get that reaction, I literally said the same thing. But if I look at the game pre-flipping Gimli as town then your vote looks bad, which is somewhat obvious.

P.S. yeah I think I know your main!

Furtive, did you ever explain this? Because first off, Gimli was never in any danger at the time of my vote and it’s hard to not view this as a possible tmi read?

[Wednesday Addams]

Good work

What are the Wednesday jokes?

I don't exactly know but it's a bit 'sus'.

Really? Why

That's weird I wanna townread you instead of dealing with your weird stances

I just meant you seemed thirsty for a fictional character, nothing else to it

Why were the Wednesday jokes suss? I view it as totally nia and why would Gimli or anyone else for that matter “be thirsty for a fictional character”?

Like furtive, this is kind of a contradiction. How did you get from thinking the Wednesday jokes were suss to nia reading it?

[Wednesday Addams]

Game was off-site

Maki drags me to a lot of stuff but don't tell her that I enjoy it

What was her alignment in that game?

And I’ve got a heavy FOS on Maki for saying she knows who I am and it makes no difference. So if she’s tellingthe truth about the former, she’s very likely to be scum here. If she has no clue who I am or wrong, it’s a null but I know anyone saying especially Maki that they know who I am and sr me is making a bs claim.

It's pretty obvious because you play exactly the same way in every game on every account arghhhhhhhh

And then it's the whole thing of 'don't out me' but also 'I'm an alt and loads of my arguments are based on my main and knowing my main' which is less than fun to play with.

Sorry if this is pointed

bianco also pointed this out but it wasn’t me who said anything about my account initially, so I didn’t think that was a fair thing to say but since you do know who I am, I don’t understand why it would have even bothered you?

[Wednesday Addams]

How in the fuck is an arbitrary number of 0.75+ scum conclusive? That's not even a full number

SOMETIMES THEY GIVE OUT 0.25

Also Suichi was correct that bianco by only using a percentage point system, gave inconclusive reads and what what townie ever gives +25 town or scum reads, so your response to this doesn’t look particularly great.

[Wednesday Addams]

20: you already know what I think of this. +scum.

38: a bit defensive, idk if that was warranted. I'm gonna give this a 0.25+scum.

42: this and the following are nulls. I don't know why exactly STD had to remark in #43 that #42 was stilted, I don't think it particularly was and I don't get the need to excuse oneself even if it was, but I don't want to read to much into it.

76: idk, I don't agree with this vote. While I don't agree with Kyoko's criticism of me either, that seemed to me an honest attempt to scumhunt. Scumreading them over "being too nitpicky" with that (cfr #91, #92) seems a little forced. +0.5scum

90: of this post I like how my TR is apparently, cfr 94, not set in stone. It was not actually challenged afterwards, hough one must assume that if #76 were genuine than the TR on me probably is too. The Kaito TR is also reasonable.

132--141, 179: I'm ignoring meta posts rn, at least possibly until I find the will to go read games.

144: eh, the question is legitimate. +town

157: eh, this one I like less, falls somewhere in the category of asking about own SRs. Though I'm giving STD some slack for it.

159, 165: gut readings are fine, especially this early. Fuyuhiko apparently doesn't like that, and that may be reasonable, I just don't agree that's particularly AI at this point.

180: I genuinely didn't understand this post. Does what? @STD, I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, I would just like a clarification. I'm guessing it is trivially linked to 183?
Btw, 183 seem like a genuine attempt to workshop, I'm giving it +0.25 town.

191: while I also find #38 distasteful, this response to Kokichi is credible. I guess it could be construed as attempting to negate all further attempts at using meta to read him, which idk if I like. +0.25scum.

total: 0.75+scum

Please point out a decisive read on StD here

Look at the bottom

Again, he also gave Gimli that same rating, so definitely not at all decisive.

[Wednesday Addams]

65: it's possible I'm just dumb, but this post doesn't make any sense to me? There were not two competing equivalent wagons, mine was already the largest and not tied with anyone. +0.25scum.
Also I resent the implication that my user is difficult >:(

67: uhm. Noncommital, but idk how much to read into it.

135: I mean, the wiki says that buzzword is a buzzword. Though I'm willing to actually give this and 137 +0.5town, this is a gut feeling but it's just that it seems to me it is quite to brazen for a scum.

total: +0.25town

The nuance is fucking overwhelming me

lmfaooo

[Gimli]

I felt miserable when bianco gave me so many points but they were scum points

felt like a clown

[Gimli]

it felt like highschool in a way

[Wednesday Addams]

it felt like highschool in a way

I had a grade 4 teacher who forgot he wasn’t in the army anymore and ranked his students and we had to respond everytime he addressed us as “sir, yes sir!”. He eventually got fired for extremely mildly whacking students across the wrists for forgetting the first “sir” with a ruler. I don’t think I ever made it past buck private until one day he promoted me to either private or corporal. Tragically, he was absent from the yearbook. I was sad.

[Gimli]

it felt like highschool in a way

I had a grade 4 teacher who forgot he wasn’t in the army anymore and ranked his students and we had to respond everytime he addressed us as “sir, yes sir!”. He eventually got fired for extremely mildly whacking students across the wrists for forgetting the first “sir” with a ruler. I don’t think I ever made it past buck private until one day he promoted me to either private or corporal. Tragically, he was absent from the yearbook. I was sad.

omg I had this exact same teacher! a geometry teacher who would punish students with a big wooden ruler. scary dude. I once forgot my compass and tried hiding under my desk cause he scared me. he just stood in front of my desk and said 'sit proper' and I sat and he didn't say anything lol.

he'd also give the most random grades. it goes 0-10 and no matter how good you were he'd just give you a 9.87 or something.

[Maki Harukawa]

it felt like highschool in a way

I had a grade 4 teacher who forgot he wasn’t in the army anymore and ranked his students and we had to respond everytime he addressed us as “sir, yes sir!”. He eventually got fired for extremely mildly whacking students across the wrists for forgetting the first “sir” with a ruler. I don’t think I ever made it past buck private until one day he promoted me to either private or corporal. Tragically, he was absent from the yearbook. I was sad.

omg I had this exact same teacher! a geometry teacher who would punish students with a big wooden ruler. scary dude. I once forgot my compass and tried hiding under my desk cause he scared me. he just stood in front of my desk and said 'sit proper' and I sat and he didn't say anything lol.

he'd also give the most random grades. it goes 0-10 and no matter how good you were he'd just give you a 9.87 or something.

I think the worst teacher I had would be this english teacher in my first year of high school, was super nice the first day we get to rolecall goes down the list all smiles, and suddenly her face shifts to one of disgust as she gets to mine and calls my full name. I nod, and she asks "Your mother wouldn't have to be (my mother)" and I say yes.

She then spends three minutes talking about how she taught my mother and how she was nothing but trouble. That entire school year if I so much as sneezed wrong she would make me do extra work.

[PenguinPower]

i feel like i should say i had a bad teacher too because i want to fit in

[Save The Dragons]

they have good teachers at vampire school?

[PenguinPower]

you should ask furtive

[furtiveglance]

why are you sus on kaito

88 is 3 quite neutral takes and something I'd expect to come from scum because it doesn't take strong stances wrt other players

Spoiler: Weds

Temple game was more about your predecessor, but I mean that your tone here is similar to there

I'm the same guy and that's like my tone. Wanna talk about temple game for a quick second? I replaced into a nightless nightmare with scum team practically conceding in scumchat. I put my funny hat and tried to have fun in it, I didn't have a plan or really tried swinging votes in another direction. Here I might be spamming nonsense just the same but I'm working the game as I do it. Also this is the first game I play from the start since my hiatus, the other 3 completed games I replaced in. More importantly, I want to win this particular game real bad, so I'm doing my thing.

Didn't mean to take a jab at you, I know the worst made himself obvious in that game though, and there was very little I could do to sway y'all from killing me.

I didn't realise all your completed games were replacement games, like I said in another game I thought you were an alt for a bit. I also really want to win this game, because I recently made a wiki page and my winrate is terrible. Besides, no deadlines for a month so...no work for the next week or two lol. Reading that post again I'm thinking that maybe I didn't say correctly what my problem was - it wasn't just 'level 1 thinking' or whatever but that you seemed to approaching the entire game in a really charitable and forgiving way, which doesn't match up with the towngame I saw in NY Dance Party. But I haven't seen you enter a completed game before so maybe it is style.

My vote isn't fixed on you, which it would be if I was really sure I was onto something. I haven't seen enough of everyone here to get a real feel for the game, but out of the players that have posted I'm probably most sus on Wednesday and Kaito so far. Saira (?) seems like quite a sharp player so one to keep an eye on.

Why are you suss on me?

Omgus on Gimli, and your entire ISO (until now) is about them apart from one alt-related post

Omgussing is nia for me but to refer to my vote as an “omguss” is inaccurate. I thought his vote on me was surfacey and not really based on much. I’m also in general - especially early game focused more on people either pushing me/voting me for what I think aren’t good reasons because you really don’t have a lot more to go on.

I mean yeah I get that reaction, I literally said the same thing. But if I look at the game pre-flipping Gimli as town then your vote looks bad, which is somewhat obvious.

P.S. yeah I think I know your main!

Furtive, did you ever explain this? Because first off, Gimli was never in any danger at the time of my vote and it’s hard to not view this as a possible tmi read?

Yeah I explained at some point that my Gimli read was trending upwards more than I had expressed at the time, and the omgus looked bad

[furtiveglance]

Good work

What are the Wednesday jokes?

I don't exactly know but it's a bit 'sus'.

Really? Why

That's weird I wanna townread you instead of dealing with your weird stances

I just meant you seemed thirsty for a fictional character, nothing else to it

Why were the Wednesday jokes suss? I view it as totally nia and why would Gimli or anyone else for that matter “be thirsty for a fictional character”?

Like furtive, this is kind of a contradiction. How did you get from thinking the Wednesday jokes were suss to nia reading it?

The 'sus' is in quote marks because it wasn't meant as a read

[furtiveglance]

Game was off-site

Maki drags me to a lot of stuff but don't tell her that I enjoy it

What was her alignment in that game?

And I’ve got a heavy FOS on Maki for saying she knows who I am and it makes no difference. So if she’s tellingthe truth about the former, she’s very likely to be scum here. If she has no clue who I am or wrong, it’s a null but I know anyone saying especially Maki that they know who I am and sr me is making a bs claim.

It's pretty obvious because you play exactly the same way in every game on every account arghhhhhhhh

And then it's the whole thing of 'don't out me' but also 'I'm an alt and loads of my arguments are based on my main and knowing my main' which is less than fun to play with.

Sorry if this is pointed

bianco also pointed this out but it wasn’t me who said anything about my account initially, so I didn’t think that was a fair thing to say but since you do know who I am, I don’t understand why it would have even bothered you?

It was partly the sense that a few of the players in this game are/were alts and that gave other players an advantage in a way