Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Alisae]

Please help someone my grandson is BULLYING ME

[Taly]

oh, i will say this

I'm kind of a hydra AND solo slot. We're plural. Happy to link resources about that.

at this moments, it's just me, Taly, and none of my headmates have expressed intention to play as well, if nobody else joins halfway through D1 -- assume that it's just me.

[Gimli]

I also like a lot of black's posts

[Firebringer]

most of those slots are null to me, why are they town?

I vibe them hard town.

Asri - even doing a gimmick posting is def hunting. I also don't think scum would just play along with my scum claiming gimmick and call me town while i was doing it.

Ari - i liked how she emphasized my phrase about the extra fluff i put in about what i was doing in scum PT. I purposefully added extra in to sell my scumminess and she zoning in on that made me think she is town for it.

Black - Good head on shoulders smart player. I think each post has made come with analysis, I guess Black could be scum here but i think all the thoughts are at least showing insight into how thinking of game that black will eventually trip up if continues like this. I mean could be scum doubt it.

Gimli - i think he wrong on furtive push and overeager. I think he pushing to solve the game and get us going. Could it be pretending to be tryhard town or lamist? I guess? Not feeling it. Feels overeager townie.

[Alisae]

I like all of Blacks posting.
Does that equal town?!?!?
I have yet to understand if its just a personality im liking or i think its just good brain working on this game hunting.

I think black if town will be crucial to this game.
Seems like a smart cookie
(this is me trying to buddy black if town)

Me personally I don’t dislike it but I don’t like it either, I feel like the most interesting thing he’s doing right now is his interactions with me.

[Gimli]

CSF has good takes and I'm tentatively townreading them

[furtiveglance]

Hey Klick it has been awhile
Who do you think currently are wolves?

Hiya, been really looking forward to playing with you again! I don't think I ever told you this because you weren't around much while it was happening, but the way you played as town a few years ago hugely influenced the way I've been trying to play as town more recently. So, uh, thanks

I don't really have any scumreads atm. I think a few players seem pretty towny so far but I don't often have confident wolf reads early. Taly stands out to me as explicitly not looking very towny in a way that bothers me a bit, if that helps?

VOTE: Lycanfire

Why not vote Taly here

Aside from this Klick feels a bit wooden

[Black]

Do you have wolf reads then? How would not having wolf reads at this point be odd?

Just a couple, albeit very minor wolf reads. Nothing that has made me confidently go "this person is a wolf." I feel lost this game but I'm trying to piece things together. I guess what seems odd to me is that you've been playing here with a lot of these people for a long time, and nothing so far has seemed the slightest bit off to you? I believe you when you say you don't have wolf reads. I'm just a little surprised.

[Alisae]

Gimli - seems like villager playing rvs based on furtive push. In general the whole thing just screams a villager trying to find some footing into the game.
The honesty behind his question being bad and him playing mafia in a stupid way is likely villager indicative.
With this in mind I think 153 screams villager brain as he seems too caught up in what he's currently doing to realize that what he is saying is just completely asinine.

town points for you townreading me while insulting me

what about VP you think is towny in the way he is engaging with the thread? he feels a little detached actually

I like your other comments cause you're reading people from peculiar angles that I think is more likely to come from town, some of them going directly against thread consensus like townreading klick's #184

I feel that, wrt that post, klick has gotten scumread by people assuming #184 was sort of a townread (myself included even though I didn't post anything about it), but after their explanation I understand it wasn't so, and I like how they're reacting to pressure.

I think his questions are like fine so far? It could be wrong I’m just interested to see what he does next & where he goes w/ it. Hasn’t done anything else aside from those questions though so /shrug

[Firebringer]

I don't really see how Fire got Klick thinks MT is town from Klick's 184 so like I disagree with the premise of the push entirely. I'm not going to say I don't understand where he is coming from because I think I can but I feel like that alone isn't enough for me personally

yeah. that.

didn't u say u wanted to sheep me like a few posts ago though

[Alisae]

The one thing I will say I like about asri is when lycanfire was brought up they started looking into it themselves.
They could probably do this as a wolf too though tho I’m not sure they would feel the need to say anything?

Their reads so far I think are also fine so far?

[Firebringer]

Ali my townreads are always golden.
How dare u question any of them.

U really don't want out of the scum box do u!

[Taly]

most of those slots are null to me, why are they town?

I vibe them hard town.

Asri - even doing a gimmick posting is def hunting. I also don't think scum would just play along with my scum claiming gimmick and call me town while i was doing it.

Ari - i liked how she emphasized my phrase about the extra fluff i put in about what i was doing in scum PT. I purposefully added extra in to sell my scumminess and she zoning in on that made me think she is town for it.

Black - Good head on shoulders smart player. I think each post has made come with analysis, I guess Black could be scum here but i think all the thoughts are at least showing insight into how thinking of game that black will eventually trip up if continues like this. I mean could be scum doubt it.

Gimli - i think he wrong on furtive push and overeager. I think he pushing to solve the game and get us going. Could it be pretending to be tryhard town or lamist? I guess? Not feeling it. Feels overeager townie.

havent looked at

asri

yet

i like

ari

but i cant argue against the alternative perspective to their posts yet... i always am townread in some, or even mass volume, in about every game i play. its easy for an informed perspective to say that i am town as a mechanism to pocket or see the game through my lens with little resistance. i did like the "(my posts) can't all be bangers" comment, you pushed back at

ari

and they didn't flinch.

i get nothing tonally from

black

at the moment, so ill actually have to

sort

them

gimli

can go either way too, im leaning town, simply because the fatigue in people attaching their entire POV on a game centering on one, early read is something i can buy. i pressured them some and it didnt feel defensive. its a weak read, like every one of my reads right now, but it is something.

[Firebringer]

Ohh I forgot that petapan goes into the towncore and highest of town.
I forgot him cause he hasn't done anything for a minute.

He is the most towniest of them all.
And I am not just saying that because im a petapan fanboy

[Taly]

i cant remember if ive seen

peta

as both alignments but they seem indistinguishable from previous vibes ive gotten from them as town

icky meta, i know

i actually townlean them because i mindmelded with their question to

gimli

[Taly]

oh my god im not supposed to be postihnwGEARGWFD i got shit to do

[Alisae]

Do you have wolf reads then? How would not having wolf reads at this point be odd?

Just a couple, albeit very minor wolf reads. Nothing that has made me confidently go "this person is a wolf." I feel lost this game but I'm trying to piece things together. I guess what seems odd to me is that you've been playing here with a lot of these people for a long time, and nothing so far has seemed the slightest bit off to you? I believe you when you say you don't have wolf reads. I'm just a little surprised.

not rly people rly need to do more things and it’s pretty early. Even if I did have wolfreads right now I pretty much take them with a grain of salt? Pretty easy to get overconfident about something and be wrong at this stage of the game. I feel like wolves have not made any proactive moves or if they have, I’m not seeing it right now.

Tbh most of this playerlist is unfamiliar to me, there are just a few individuals like fire Taly Cakez Klick Peta MT and Misty that all come to mind that I’m familiar with and tbh I think the players I think are easiest to read in that pool are Misty and Peta?

[Taly]

Who's the hardest to read in that pool?

[Alisae]

You Cakez fire

[Alisae]

Black I’m interested in these minor wolf reads u have

[Aristeia]

Something I would like Ari to elaborate on when she gets the chance is why she feels the way she feels about Peta.

While looking back on my notes it kind of just dawned on me the best way to REALLY elaborate what I see with peta. I don't wolf!Peta engages with the thread the way he has so far. Maybe it's crazy of me to get this impression from his first 2 rvs votes as well as 151, but I feel like isolations 5-9 have only helped reinforce this vibe I am getting.

the way i read peta is to look for things he does as town exclusively.

i dont really expect him to be readable this early in the game and i have a lot of respect for him as a player.

ig my follow-up question would be do you really think he hasn't done anything he wouldn't be able to do exclusively as villager?

He hasn't done anything he can't do as mafia, also i don't really think he's had the oppurtunity either.

your read is based on your mental model of how scum!peta would interact with the thread and i find expectations of behavior to not be the best for making accurate reads.

[Alisae]

Furtive can u try to explain to me ur reads and why u have those reads?
Like all in 1 big post and make it ez for me to engage with

[Gimli]

ali/ari/black/fire is my early towncore, I may or may not expand on why I'm reading all these people as towny in a bit

I think furtive has been alright but not enough for me to townread him... yet, I expect that to change one way or another in the following days

I'm not sure if I understood taly's point of view with regards to me moving to baltar when I was seemingly scumreading furtive 'confidently', I don't know if that works as a dissonance or how that read formed, but she's also been the one asking me about other players and helping me move my content from that point to other game advancing points so, I liked that. I also feel they've been firey in general and interacting a lot with the thread in a way I perceive as towny just trying to work the game out. so maybe taly should be in the towncore as well but, let the potato rest on this read for a couple of hours.

I like what CSF posted so far in terms of agreeing with their stances, but they're not hard things to point out as a wolf so they're still kind of a null read.

the rest is null-ish, except that I don't like baltar's lack of involvement and I don't like redFF, I think his content is a dumpster fire so far and he is orbiting around scumreading me for my furtive stances, seems like an easy thing to do just coasting on the sidelines and fixating on an apparently logical scumread while being completely detached from the game otherwise

VOTE: redFF

[Alisae]

Ali my townreads are always golden.
How dare u question any of them.

U really don't want out of the scum box do u!

[furtiveglance]

Furtive can u try to explain to me ur reads and why u have those reads?
Like all in 1 big post and make it ez for me to engage with

I don't think I have that many reads, and they're not really so strong that I can explain them at length

Taly is town, we can all agree
Asri prob town
Black prob town

Klick is sus

Those are my stronger ones