Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Aristeia]

i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly

i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.

id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.

[Alisae]

Furtive can u try to explain to me ur reads and why u have those reads?
Like all in 1 big post and make it ez for me to engage with

I don't think I have that many reads, and they're not really so strong that I can explain them at length

Taly is town, we can all agree
Asri prob town
Black prob town

Klick is sus

Those are my stronger ones

need your thought processes behind how u reached these conclusions. It’d be helpful if you could paint the picture so it’s super clear for me

[furtiveglance]

Taly obvious villager if you ask for explanation you are outted wolf
Asri toneread, wholesome posting gives me villager vibes
Black seems considered and open which feels like a villager

Klick dissonance between Taly scumread (which is bad) and rando Lycan vote, + wooden tone and lack of reads = wolf

I used the words villager and wolf which you like

[Alisae]

If Taly is obv it should be ez to explain.
Im not doing this to try to help inform a read the the other players I’m just trying to understand you. If U think it’s obv I wanna know why u think it’s obv.

Pointing out that I like villager and wolf made me chuckle.

[Alisae]

Man fuck me it’s light out and I need to be up in 5 hours gnight

[Gimli]

gnight

[furtiveglance]

Taly more like Town-ly

Clearly thinking
Open
Natural

Idk what else to say

[Gimli]

what do you think of redFF, fruit vengeance?

[furtiveglance]

If you call me that I'll call you Gimbo Baggins

Yeah a bit sus I guess, your post on him was slightly convincing

[Gimli]

please call me gimbo

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: asri

I slept on this and I feel like asri not being able to give actual reasons to why they hard town read someone doesn't make a lot of sense coming from town. I mean, sure, gut townread someone early game for vibes or whatever, but a hard town read? Nah.

[furtiveglance]

Who didn't they answer about^?

[Klick]

I think VP Baltar is town

[VP Baltar]

i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly

i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.

id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.

This also feels incredibly lazy to me

[VP Baltar]

Who didn't they answer about^?

Just a min, I'll grab quotes

[Black]

not rly people rly need to do more things and it’s pretty early. Even if I did have wolfreads right now I pretty much take them with a grain of salt? Pretty easy to get overconfident about something and be wrong at this stage of the game.

I vibe with this explanation. This is pretty much exactly how I feel at the moment

Tbh most of this playerlist is unfamiliar to me, there are just a few individuals like fire Taly Cakez Klick Peta MT and Misty that all come to mind that I’m familiar with and tbh I think the players I think are easiest to read in that pool are Misty and Peta?

My mistake then. I probably shouldn't have assumed everyone here knows everyone else.

Black I’m interested in these minor wolf reads u have

Nothing too substantial. I was sus of MT when she flipped to the Klick wagon over the smallest hunch (basically, "Klick understands my personality and read my actions right, so maybe he has insider information that I'm town"). I wasn't a big fan of that.

I'm also getting weird vibes from Ari. Her votes and claims have come with little analysis (see 186 and 223), though she just posted a bit ago elaborating on her reads. I liked that post. Someone mentioned the last time she was scum she had a similar playstyle of shitposting, but I don't know how much weight that carries.

Gimli seemed pretty confident that furtive was playing different than his normal playstyle early. Then he just kind of...drops it? I questioned Gimli on why he singled out furtive when others were playing the same way early, and his response was basically "trust me bro" (178). Gimli then jumps on the mobile VPB wagon and his reasoning for voting VPB was the exact reason he voted for furtive (playing different than normal). Taly questioned him about his furtive stance and he deflects back to VPB, only to ultimately unvote VPB and vote red for being "detached". Not sure if this is a scum read on Gimli or a townie that is all over the place. I'm still figuring this one out.

That's pretty what I have at the moment.

[VP Baltar]

This one trusts both our sire the majestic and radiant Herald of Flame, as well as He Who is Furtive

They can do no wrong in this one's eyes and this shall remain unchanged!

The one who Klicks and Red feel wholesome as well.

Why do you townread them?

This one feels our King and the Glancer are loyal, and still does!
Klick and Red do seem good for now?


This one has also taken a great liking to Sir of the Cakez, but is greatly unsure about voting on the Morn Tweeter.

This sums it up.

Townreads both Firebringer and furtive to the point of saying "they can do no wrong". So I'm like "hmm, that seems strong for pretty early."

I ask why, and Asri just says they don't have a reason.

It feels like if those two are town, it's a very safe position for scum to take, especially with fireb

[Black]

VOTE: asri

I slept on this and I feel like asri not being able to give actual reasons to why they hard town read someone doesn't make a lot of sense coming from town. I mean, sure, gut townread someone early game for vibes or whatever, but a hard town read? Nah.

I want to echo that I also get weird vibes from Asri and I forgot to include it in my last post. He has townread multiple people now with no explanations, and when pushed to elaborate, he refuses.

VOTE: Asri

I want to put pressure on Asri to contribute actual game-advancing content. Who are your townreads and why? Any scum reads so far, and why?

[Gimli]

@black as the game progresses, my reads go to different places. do you want me to still talk about furtive's early play?

[Klick]

Asri has already been pretty clear that they don't want to elaborate further; I don't think further pressure to make that happen is very productive

I think they should have some time to do their thing

[Black]

@black as the game progresses, my reads go to different places. do you want me to still talk about furtive's early play?

No, I think you have said enough there. Could you maybe provide some insight on why you think red is a better vote than furtive or VPB?

[Black]

Asri has already been pretty clear that they don't want to elaborate further; I don't think further pressure to make that happen is very productive

I think they should have some time to do their thing

I think it would be productive to know

why

Asri doesn't want to elaborate further, right? If the early game townreads were just flavor and jokes then it would benefit us to know that.

[redFF]

ali/ari/black/fire is my early towncore, I may or may not expand on why I'm reading all these people as towny in a bit

I think furtive has been alright but not enough for me to townread him... yet, I expect that to change one way or another in the following days

I'm not sure if I understood taly's point of view with regards to me moving to baltar when I was seemingly scumreading furtive 'confidently', I don't know if that works as a dissonance or how that read formed, but she's also been the one asking me about other players and helping me move my content from that point to other game advancing points so, I liked that. I also feel they've been firey in general and interacting a lot with the thread in a way I perceive as towny just trying to work the game out. so maybe taly should be in the towncore as well but, let the potato rest on this read for a couple of hours.

I like what CSF posted so far in terms of agreeing with their stances, but they're not hard things to point out as a wolf so they're still kind of a null read.

the rest is null-ish, except that I don't like baltar's lack of involvement and I don't like redFF, I think his content is a dumpster fire so far and he is orbiting around scumreading me for my furtive stances, seems like an easy thing to do just coasting on the sidelines and fixating on an apparently logical scumread while being completely detached from the game otherwise

VOTE: redFF

Huh?

[Gimli]

@black as the game progresses, my reads go to different places. do you want me to still talk about furtive's early play?

No, I think you have said enough there. Could you maybe provide some insight on why you think red is a better vote than furtive or VPB?

I just said why, I think redFF is scummy. my reads on these other players are related to thread activity and, in furtive's case can be explained by mood. my read on FF is that the way he is engaging with the thread is scummy because he hasn't done anything and what he did was a bad read that was repeated by half the game.

[VP Baltar]

Asri has already been pretty clear that they don't want to elaborate further; I don't think further pressure to make that happen is very productive

I think they should have some time to do their thing

I mean, it's not a pressure vote. I think it's pretty scummy, trying to fit in behavior. There is no curiosity or sense of trying to figure the game out here. Just absolute certainty in reads.