Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Aristeia]

i dont think i am being misread by cakes

i think cakes scum decided it would be fun to shitpush me because he saw klick do it and it kind of worked.

[Firebringer]

I actually like ur scumread on me black.
I don't like ur scumread on Ari.

If you and furtive are scum, Ari is scum. In my eyes at least

You can take me at my word.
Ari is not on my scum team.

[Black]

But personally I think the likelihood of scum goes Furtive >>> Ari >>> Fire, so I would want to see Ari flip after furtive

[Firebringer]

I feel insulted Black doesn't consider me the biggest threat to this game if i was scum.
Just so hurt by Black.

[Aristeia]

id be pretty surprised if furtive was mafia.

[VP Baltar]

If this game turns out im defending scum Ari though.
I will never defend her again.

Fool you once...

[Aristeia]

If this game turns out im defending scum Ari though.
I will never defend her again.

it does feel nice to be defended <3

[Aristeia]

If this game turns out im defending scum Ari though.
I will never defend her again.

Fool you once...

do you have a read on me yet vpb

[Firebringer]

I can definitely see it being possible of furtive being mafia.
Esp since when has he ever just called me town and openly sheeps me. That is just weird behavior from him.

I am leaving him a lot of space this game for me to sort though that i don't plan to give a strong opinion until day 2 or 3

[redFF]

i think this is an interesting sequence from cakez early in the game

Yo there cannot be this many scum in this game

this implies cakez has a lot of scum reads early on

the color squad Red and Black are giving me some town pings off town lowkey mixing them up tho lol

here he calls me and black town before walking it back right after

the color squad Red and Black are giving me some town pings off town lowkey mixing them up tho lol

actually i take this back from a quick iso all the good posts were just Black
Red's iso is a nothingburger

where are Aristeia and Peta at
suspiciously absent from my reads so far

now he says he doesn't have reads on ari and peta

where are Aristeia and Peta at
suspiciously absent from my reads so far

i don't thread camp on a friday night

i mean even in game start i felt nothing from ur posts
we shall see if i get the feels soon

i feel like i have a good town pool and a good scum pool and like nothing in between this game

what are those supposed to be

Fire, Black, Taly, Alisae, CSF, furtive, Klick all feel decently town to me
Meanwhile not a fan of MT, Gimli, Red, Ari or honestly you rn

now here he lists 7 town reads, and 5 scum reads
but going back to the first post "there cannot be this many scum in the game", well, of his scum reads, myself, ari and peta were only developed later after that post
so when cakez said "there cannot be this many scum", the only people he could have scumread at that point are gimli and mt, as the others he listed were developed later.

so that first post declaring that there "cannot be this many scum in the game" seems kinda odd based on the reads he ended up giving

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Firebringer

Firebringer/redFF/Lycanfire
One more for the grand slam

This isn't towny. Do you think it is?

I townread Aristeia's meta commentary about Firebringer more than the vote itself

[VP Baltar]

If this game turns out im defending scum Ari though.
I will never defend her again.

Fool you once...

do you have a read on me yet vpb

I already said I find your play kinda scummy this game. I like the cakez push a little better because it feels like you're doing something at least now.

You seemed pretty coasty for awhile, which was similar to the dance game.

Why do you think you're self evidently town this game?

[furtiveglance]

You can call Fire's case on Klick weak, but I agreed. If someone is pushing my big scumread, I'll usually treat them as town

And your other points are complete garbage

I think this 'case' is motivated by self-defence which is noted.

[Black]

VOTE: Firebringer

Firebringer/redFF/Lycanfire
One more for the grand slam

This isn't towny. Do you think it is?

I don't find early game joke votes as alignment indicative

I townread Aristeia's meta commentary about Firebringer more than the vote itself

What commentary? You mean her saying "I think you're scum"? Because that was basically the extent of it if you check Ari's ISO

[Black]

I think this 'case' is motivated by self-defence which is noted.

I've never felt attacked by you. But noting it is definitely the right play here

[Black]

i think this is an interesting sequence from cakez early in the game

I can't get on board with this, but I like the effort in your post. Cakez is probably at the top of my townread list

[Black]

Sorry for ruining the game by ending it so early because my reads are that good

{Datisi}

{FireKinger, SirCakez, Taly, VP Baltar}

{Alisae, Aristeia, Gimli, Morning Tweet, Mistyx}

{Asri Teroka, Lycanfire, petapan}

{Black, CSF}

{Klick, redFF}

{My new avatar}

Could you elaborate on why Ari didn't make it into your top tier? What made her less town than the 4 above her? She shared your scumread of both Fire and Klick early on, and you just said yourself you tend to think people are really townie when they agree with your scumreads. You both mindmelded over Taly being town in #223 and #399. So what held you back from putting Ari in the top tier?

Speaking of #399. Why didn't you list Ari here as a townread? After all the above, you still didn't get a townread from her??? But we now know you did. Because you just recently admitted you did. So why exclude her from #399?

[Klick]

TOWN
Morning Tweet
Black
Asri Teroka
Alisae
Firebringer

LEANING TOWN
furtiveglance
SirCakez
redFF
VP Baltar
Cat Scratch Fever

NULL
Gimli
Mistyx
Aristeia
Taly

LEANING SCUM
petapan
Lycanfire

SCUM

[Klick]

I think people asked me things but I'm feeling passive atm

[Aristeia]

explain the cakes read

[petapan]

only have time to check my mentions right now back later

Ari's posts have gotten better but I'm still not sure about her. Day 1, first game on the site will probably be the time I'm least confident in my scumreads. I will improve. The fact that no one else seems too concerned with Ari being a wolf makes me less confident in my read

i think most people here are familiar with ari's playstye so that's probably why. don't have too strong a read on her myself, slight townlean off a few things she's said

ok how would you characterize Ari then

she's playing like ari i think to that point she had a few stances she made clear even if it wasn't super fleshed out, like i don't really want to do a point by point on this

[petapan]

okay ya i don't think my read really changes.

I can't identify Peta's agenda if he's a wolf so I'm happy to call it town for now. Still something that's being played out in the moment though. His VP push doesn't seem like a push that comes from a wolf so far?

I was mainly asking because you mentioned you said he was easy to read.

What do you think of 710? I thought this was pretty townie, but I was going off of tone. I'm not XxTonereader420xX so my opinion probably means shit.

why is tht post towny

[Alisae]

Hi I’m waking up, I remember someone saying that my interactions with Lycan felt fake and I agree, I don’t really know why Lycan is asking me about Peta I feel like there are other interesting topics available and the avi thing COULD be some attempt to pocket me

[Morning Tweet]

i like red, fire, ari........................

....

...

I don't really suspect Klick that much

UNVOTE:

VP seems ever so slightly on the edge of town, hesistant to really do that though, hes good

Yeah, I feel like redFF is a shit wagon because they lack any sense of regard for the playerlist. I can count 8 instances where they are actively pissing someone off.

I'm happy to change course on this because I don't love it, but Taly has been vote parking all day after inserting themselves into Firebringer/MT. I'd say there were three instances where we broke out of RVS, and Taly was at the tail end of it and has stayed there. VOTE: Taly

I've been mulling over the couple of pages where Ali and Lycanfire talk and do the thing. It goes on for a really longh time. Someone said they found it suspicious ... it struck me as kind of weird how many posts it goes on for but I mean I know ALi hyperposts

@Lycanfire

., what were the instances where we broke out of RVS that you noticed? I'm actually incredibly curious to hear about this.

I think the way Cakez responded to Ari's reaction to cakesz vote (873 and on) was believable. As in, cakez seems towny. But I dont think he's right

I love the red post analyzing Cakez. Reds posts scream town to me

Spoiler: Ali and Fire posts

im starting ot think ali is scum

I would think I was a wolf too tbh

r u trying to jokingly play it off?
i am kind of serious here but i haven't yet put the words to make a case im gut scumreading u right now

no if I'm a wolf I'm playing badly right now. I literally think I make these exact movements if I am a wolf except maybe I aim to keep red in the elimination pool. Only difference between what is happening and what I would do as a wolf.
I'm not a wolf.

this feels made up like whered does keeping red in hte elimination pool even come from how do you know you'd be playing the same as scum why are u thinking so m,uch abt this

Spoiler: Lycanfire posts

Yeah, I feel like redFF is a shit wagon because they lack any sense of regard for the playerlist. I can count 8 instances where they are actively pissing someone off.

I'm happy to change course on this because I don't love it, but Taly has been vote parking all day after inserting themselves into Firebringer/MT. I'd say there were three instances where we broke out of RVS, and Taly was at the tail end of it and has stayed there. VOTE: Taly

Taly said he was blocking the site until Monday. does that change your read?

No it doesn't change my read. The only thing that would have me revise it is more content or having someone read them better.

I agree withr the redFF comment but like, how can you consider Taly in RVS? I took this comment as face value at first becaus i only remember the Fire/Taly/MT stuff but ISOing Taly and looking at their 4th to last post reveals:

Spoiler: taly quote

{taly}

{fire/cakez/ali/black}

{csf/red/peta}

{gimli/furtive/ari}

{klick/vp/mist}

{asri/lycan/mt}

{fucking datisi}

probably 1, (hopefully fucking not 2), wolves in top 3 categories

17p has 4, maybe even 5 mafia right?

Tally had seemingly formed amn opinion on pretty much every player

The vote parking comment is fair until you consider that (me i think) is being voted by taly and im at the bottom of their reads even in the last of his 50ish posts.

And the V/LA since whenever thing.

I'm confused what you're suspecting Taly for *exactly* or expecting your vote on Taly to *do*.

Spoiler: reads

town

red
Fire

heavy town

Taly - reminded me of other games, lines up with how i expect taly to play so far
Ari
SirCakez

lean town

Klick
VP Baltar
furtiveglance (i skimmed and I dont have anything like the opinion I expressed before (which was mostly a response to Gimli IIRC). He comes across towny, probably very. I don't have reasoning though


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Dont know

petapan/Gimli/Asri (I haven't gotten around to reading enough of any of you 3's posts)
Cat Scratch (i think they might be onto something with Lycanfire)

Sort of suspect

Mistyx (bad read of me and probably on ari, ISO is sparse, nothing i townread, But could be just a slow start. I almost didn't bother reading the game when i saw how many pages there were to read)

Suspect

Ali
Lycanfire

VOTE: Lycanfire

[Alisae]

I’m going to super lurk out now baibai