HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[Eiralox]

I'm so tired eira.

I know! You think I'm not? Really am.
Just vote Elements with me? Ease your strain?

I really think she is town now. I see your case, I made that exact same case as a possibility. she really isn't clear by any means. but it's banking on too many conditionals for it to work...

pedit: okay VOTE: bellaphant

c'mon Gimli.

After the Gamma hammer?

After Erynis, and Fenrir?

How is Elements part of this crew?

[Bellaphant]

Explain my play yesterday to me? Explain why noone else dies n1 if I'm lying about anything.

I spent all yesterday telling people not to clear me. Why wouldn't I be shouting all over that I'm...double soft innod, instead

[Elements]

UNVOTE:
I'm going to sleep

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Dan had the black spot because he was targeted by scum.

Not because you redirected. Could be that simple.

[Bellaphant]

I'dl love an answer though. I got wagoned early yesterday, it's just noise

Ok but....why do I put myself into the limelight at all? Why don't I shut up and let more town die?

[Gimli]

Explain my play yesterday to me?

Explain why noone else dies n1 if I'm lying about anything.

I spent all yesterday telling people not to clear me. Why wouldn't I be shouting all over that I'm...double soft innod, instead

titus got the spit on n1, I don't know what you're talking about

[Radical Rat]

AISA GIVE ME ANOTHER 200 POSTS

pedit: but if the roleblocker dies they are toasted? and bella is an eternal limpool killer, it's too strong someone is lying

RR since you're so good at mech, do you realise that someone has to be lying here? between bella and mala there's something stinky, I think it's bella.

I do think scum seems underpowered here.
I don't think Bella's lying though, and then Mala shot Enchant, so can't be her.

There are a couple of possibilities, but it's too great a leap to make without evidence...

I will say though, at this point, I don't think Goons exist.

[Eiralox]

Dan had the black spot because he was targeted by scum.

Not because you redirected. Could be that simple.

this was my thoughts, end D3. Gimli/Bella, I called.

But with enchant flip I'm really not seeing it.

But Bellaphant and Killing Joke aren't in my '100% town' pile so meh.

I'm still very much sold on ELements being the best vote here.

Bella RE: Erybis does seem good? i got weird vibes off them thought they and Erybis scum, but meh, Bella just feels wholesome whereas ElEmnts/Flea and to a lesser extent Gimli don't really seem to care bout crew or who scum is

[Eiralox]

*Erynis

[Gimli]

AISA GIVE ME ANOTHER 200 POSTS

pedit: but if the roleblocker dies they are toasted? and bella is an eternal limpool killer, it's too strong someone is lying

RR since you're so good at mech, do you realise that someone has to be lying here? between bella and mala there's something stinky, I think it's bella.

I do think scum seems underpowered here.
I don't think Bella's lying though, and then Mala shot Enchant, so can't be her.

There are a couple of possibilities, but it's too great a leap to make without evidence...

I will say though, at this point, I don't think Goons exist.

okay

either elly is lying or someone else is, because we can't make any scumteams if all the killing roles are true AND me/kj/flea are all vts. like there's not enough players left to make a scumteam.

[Bellaphant]

Explain my play yesterday to me?

Explain why noone else dies n1 if I'm lying about anything.

I spent all yesterday telling people not to clear me. Why wouldn't I be shouting all over that I'm...double soft innod, instead

titus got the spit on n1, I don't know what you're talking about

Fair, I hate numbers, I was imaging another kill again

Answer.... anything else though?

@eira, noones play this game has really made sense to me: I thought hpe was hard town Ans then it's last few posts really made me ?? Same with ad: I was so sure he'd told his scum buddies he'd got spotted.

But actually the minute he did claim I guess scum knew their kill went wonky anyway. So that's what I need to look at in the morning.

P-edit what do you think is more likely?

[Eiralox]

Bella, I'm very certain my solve is correct.

I think Elements is the best vote here.

All I really worry about now is what scum are informed about.

[Gimli]

oh actually

the way bella treated AD seemed uninformed. I... yeah.

UNVOTE:

my god this game is so hard baby jesus save me

[Radical Rat]

I mean, I don't think you're a VT for one.

But you're right actually, I didn't run the numbers before making that speculation.

[Bellaphant]

Uninformed feels like exactly the word for me rn

[Eiralox]

See, if crew has this killing power then it might make sense for there to be a traitor.... I'm not yet sure whether we are 6/3 or 5/4 today, that's pretty important to know here. Or, there's like two or one more scum PR's, and they were informed that there's not an investigative.

But.... Day 1 does make the possibility of a traitor very interesting to ponder on, ponder the orb and all shall be shown...

[Radical Rat]

Titus was an investigative, so that doesn't make sense

[Eiralox]

If scum were informed there's not an investigative... hmmm... Mala Day 1 claim... no. Don't see a miller work all that well if that's what scum are informed about. I'm still leaning to traitor, but can be something real imple like 'there's a vig' or whatever.

[Eiralox]

Titus was an investigative, so that doesn't make sense

alignment/pr non pr spesific. but yeah, not the best guess I'm admitting, see above

[Radical Rat]

They could have been informed about Bella? Not that it was her specifically, but "A role exists that may interfere with your kills" type deal?

[Eiralox]

yeah idk. time will tell and hopefully the crew prevails. have fun ya'll!

[Radical Rat]

...

This is definitely a bit tinfoily but...

What if Mala's the traitor?

Miller is a pretty solid claim for a traitor to make, and if she's a traitor who doesn't know the main scumteam, Enchant could have just been an accident.

It helps with the PR balance issue, and explains Elements' result... The informed bit could be the existence of a traitor... It all lines up.

Idk, someone tell me I'm crazy here

[Eiralox]

Nah. Elements is plain lying about their role.

As I told Gimli, Dan and Passenger died, so this game is pretty balanced why I see it: Town Killing can be very anti-town.

I'll be honest it's either you or Killing Joke, if there's one, and ugh I'm just not gonna talk beyond that.

Elements as the flip is prime, they are scum, end of story.

No way crew plays so cold, so uncaring, as they have.

[Gimli]

...

This is definitely a bit tinfoily but...

What if Mala's the traitor?

Miller is a pretty solid claim for a traitor to make, and if she's a traitor who doesn't know the main scumteam, Enchant could have just been an accident.

It helps with the PR balance issue, and explains Elements' result... The informed bit could be the existence of a traitor... It all lines up.

Idk, someone tell me I'm crazy here

makes perfect sense to me

[Eiralox]

But eh traitor claiming miller might make sense. No way enchant kill makes sense. I'm sure Mala would've been smart enough to know town! Enchant can be easily mis-ellimed.

So, frankly, not liking the theory. But whatever. At this point it's more a slog than a mystery for me to be honest. And I'm spending way too much time here after telling myself I wouldn't.