what do you mean?In post 948, Morning Tweet wrote:
I think the way Cakez responded to Ari's reaction to cakesz vote (873 and on) was believable. As in, cakez seems towny. But I dont think he's right
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Black is also I don't know but not for a lack of content, or even a lack of noticing, its just that their posts were just on the heavier side for me Lol. I didn't even realize i forgot
I may as well
Oh my fucking god I remember
Mild case my ass
This seems genuine from Black though. I like furtive still, but just a lean-
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In post 941, Black wrote:
Could you elaborate on why Ari didn't make it into your top tier? What made her less town than the 4 above her? She shared your scumread of both Fire and Klick early on, and you just said yourself you tend to think people are really townie when they agree with your scumreads. You both mindmelded over Taly being town in #223 and #399. So what held you back from putting Ari in the top tier?In post 497, furtiveglance wrote:
Speaking of #399. Why didn't you list Ari here as a townread? After all the above, you still didn't get a townread from her??? But we now know you did. Because you just recently admitted you did. So why exclude her from #399?Spoiler: response-
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I gave up on responding to that after a while lol but it feels to me like Black is confirm biasing themself, it seems towny
CertainlyIn post 950, Aristeia wrote:
what do you mean?In post 948, Morning Tweet wrote:
I think the way Cakez responded to Ari's reaction to cakesz vote (873 and on) was believable. As in, cakez seems towny. But I dont think he's right
In post 611, SirCakez wrote: VOTE: aristeia this is the wagon we should be doing she literally has made 0 town posts in her entire ISOIn post 874, SirCakez wrote:
wow this is certainly a reasonable and townie way to reactIn post 619, Aristeia wrote: your comments are not even remotely accurate and i realize ive been too lax recently in terms of being overly nice to people who push me for completely nonsensical reasons unrooted in reality.
Like, this is a terrible read from Cakez IMO but he's so sure of it it comes across like he believes itIn post 887, SirCakez wrote: ok yeah done reading and the scummiest person in the game is still clearly Aristeia. that was one of the worst reactions to a vote i've ever seen.
And then the double-down to your fairly mundane reaction somehow confirming you as scum in Cakez eyes. It's like Cakez is seeing something that isn't there. Which is why I believe that he does see something, he had some kind of interpretation, it seemed genuine
It also seems ridiculously towny because I think Cakez would have gathered that people are townreading Ari and probably would have looked into your posts further before going all in like he did. This is a great way to get attyention and gain nothing. At least how I'm reading it.
Like, the only two game-related posts from Ari are these?
Like what???? What happened to the whole section with fire and me?? That felt, at least somewhat noticable. Or the klick wagon.In post 614, SirCakez wrote:In post 223, Aristeia wrote: Taly feels really town
the entirety of Ari's scumhunting everyoneIn post 400, Aristeia wrote: i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly
i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.
id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.
IDK it feels like Cakez is targetting you because of a reason that makes sense to him and him only. That's my reasoning. I could also just not understand what he finds scummy about you lol-
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what's up with the change in your csf read?In post 942, Klick wrote: TOWN
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why do you think my read on ari is probably bad?In post 948, Morning Tweet wrote: bad read of me and probably on ari-
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Can you tell me why you feel this way? Were you sussing either of them before the hood came out?In post 913, redFF wrote: i think one of cakez/lycan being scum is a decent shoutYOUR AD HERE
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i feel like im playing a different game than everyone else again
ig i just haven't gotten into it
kinda wanted to gut call that red post that vp just quoted bad but not really feeling it other than "i think those two slots are where scum are pushing rn" which i dont really have much to back up-
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why can't he just be scum who is making up a read and pushing me to try to get townread via refuge in audacity?In post 953, Morning Tweet wrote:
IDK it feels like Cakez is targetting you because of a reason that makes sense to him and him only. That's my reasoning. I could also just not understand what he finds scummy about you lol
for context, the last game I played as town also had sircakes in it- he replaced out fairly early so I'm not sure if he read the entire thing but during d1, I was tunneled by two slots; Klick who was scum and Aubrey who was town and I more or less thought they were town for "believing" that I was scum by virtue of their persistence and devotion to their reads which were utterly nonsensical and not really based in what was going on in the thread.
I don't see why he wouldn't think it would be a good idea to try the same kind of play hoping that I am similarly passive.
When I push back on him and ask him to explain his read - he doesn't really respond.
I don't really think his exaggerated belief in his scumread is townie - if anything it feels performative to me - like he is trying to overplay his confidence in it in order to be townread.-
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In post 611, SirCakez wrote: VOTE: aristeia this is the wagon we should be doing she literally has made 0 town posts in her entire ISO
like this is just disgusting and I would be beyond disappointed if he actually wrote this garbage as town.In post 614, SirCakez wrote:In post 223, Aristeia wrote: Taly feels really town
the entirety of Ari's scumhunting everyoneIn post 400, Aristeia wrote: i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly
i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.
id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.
I don't think he's town at all. I think he's scum who decided to cough up some word vomit and can't back up any of his thoughts.-
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I think he decided to make up a scumread and just do over the top language to "sound more convincing"
I think he did it because he saw it work on me in a previous game and he thought it would be "fun" for him to do it to me this game.
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klick looks town and there's probably a mafia in the neighborhoodIn post 957, VP Baltar wrote:
Can you tell me why you feel this way? Were you sussing either of them before the hood came out?In post 913, redFF wrote: i think one of cakez/lycan being scum is a decent shout-
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i feel like there's a nonzero chance asri and baltar are scum togetherfree crypto-
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Ari fwiw I want to tr you but I can't find any good reason to and I also can't really find any good reason to wolfread you either so maybe that's just my incompetence. I also don't really know what you're capable of.
I do think that Cakez is literally wrong. A most notable instance of what appeared to be hunting would from your fire vote in RVS. It's not like impossible for that to be faked but that's at least 1 instance of something that has looked like hunting.
If he's a wolf I genuinely have no idea what the guy is doing? Honestly to me it looks like someone who is struggling :/
Based off of what?In post 962, redFF wrote: there's probably a mafia in the neighborhood-
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I think SirCakes is so far in his scum meta that he should be a slam dunk lim candidate today. I recognize I can be somewhat biased in this regard so I would appreciate if someone can reality check me and take a look at some of the meta-checks I've been reviewing to see if I'm simply confbiased on his slot.
These are the six games I skimmed - some of them I am already familiar with but I opened them up again to refresh my memory about what his scum game looks like:
Town Games:
Open 870
Open 866
Micro 1062
Mini 2260
Mafia Games:
Dance Party
Eurybia’s Curse
If you open up these isos, I suggest you have town on one side and mafia on the other side so you can see there are some marked differences between how he plays as town and how he plays as mafia.
When he is mafia he tends to use declarative statements far more and paint in broad sweeps - the reads come much faster because he's just making shit up. When he's town he goes read by read and you can actually see how he develops them one at a time from moments in time. Also excessive confidence is something that is present in his scum games but not in his town games - his town thought process involves nuance and he's not nearly as certain of things that he is saying.-
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i know ari is making a big deal about cakez but i can see cakez having a bad dumb read he refuses to let go of as town and i'm not sure he approaches scum with the mentality of hardtunneling a player for fun
this vote is actually scummy thoughIn post 888, Mistyx wrote:hi im playing pokemon but i caught up
VOTE: Ari
wanna go here rn i think decent odds this is scum struggling to make serious contentfree crypto-
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What about the interactions w/ fire is that something he has faked before i don't mind his recent interactions with fire-
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In post 965, Alisae wrote:
If he's a wolf I genuinely have no idea what the guy is doing? Honestly to me it looks like someone who is struggling :/
I suggest you read the games I linked.
I don't expect a player that is "struggling" in d1 of a large to project that much confidence into the thread.
I would be fine with his play if he was simply taking it slow and getting his bearings but the exaggerated confidence has all the hallmarks of his scum game where he tries to pretend he's 50 feet tall.-
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i swear i posted that without reading that last firebringer post, i'm not trying to pocket himIn post 892, Firebringer wrote:
What about Mistyx.In post 890, Aristeia wrote: cakes is mafia or a moron
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just makes sense to have 1 mafia in a 3 person neighborhood from a setup perspective, am i wrong in thinking this?In post 965, Alisae wrote: 2 Things
Ari fwiw I want to tr you but I can't find any good reason to and I also can't really find any good reason to wolfread you either so maybe that's just my incompetence. I also don't really know what you're capable of.
I do think that Cakez is literally wrong. A most notable instance of what appeared to be hunting would from your fire vote in RVS. It's not like impossible for that to be faked but that's at least 1 instance of something that has looked like hunting.
If he's a wolf I genuinely have no idea what the guy is doing? Honestly to me it looks like someone who is struggling :/
Based off of what?In post 962, redFF wrote: there's probably a mafia in the neighborhood-
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i thought cakez was visibly riding the struggle bus in holiday dance party in a way that hasn't shown up in this game but i'll review i guessfree crypto-
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Datisi is a mod who likes to subvert expectations.In post 971, redFF wrote:
just makes sense to have 1 mafia in a 3 person neighborhood from a setup perspective, am i wrong in thinking this?In post 965, Alisae wrote: 2 Things
Ari fwiw I want to tr you but I can't find any good reason to and I also can't really find any good reason to wolfread you either so maybe that's just my incompetence. I also don't really know what you're capable of.
I do think that Cakez is literally wrong. A most notable instance of what appeared to be hunting would from your fire vote in RVS. It's not like impossible for that to be faked but that's at least 1 instance of something that has looked like hunting.
If he's a wolf I genuinely have no idea what the guy is doing? Honestly to me it looks like someone who is struggling :/
Based off of what?In post 962, redFF wrote: there's probably a mafia in the neighborhood-
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can you fill us in here? lycan had made 4 posts when you said thisIn post 634, Mistyx wrote: saving my place at top of page 24
think lycan is town for reasons I’ll think are bad if i explain
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