Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[furtiveglance]

why is it very town

Because if the biggest wagon is pushing scum!me, I'm gonna yeet them off the face of the earth, not credit their good points

[Firebringer]

I don't see how scum don't make those points about the post about Cakez. And actually i would argue the quoted posts of cakez. None are indicative of town Cakez. They are literally like "town entitlement" what even is that? Cakez doesnt want a wagon on him. Duh. He wouldn't want one and he would be upset regardless of alignment here for having a wagon on him.

and he can be genuinely upset and be scum.
Its just throwing an easy read out there with some "analysis"

If this is your very town post by Mistyx, I ask for the next.

[furtiveglance]

Its just throwing an easy read out there with some "analysis"

Yeah this is pro-town behaviour that I give townpoints for

What do you see as towny, answering everything with emojis?

[Firebringer]

why is it very town

Because if the biggest wagon is pushing scum!me, I'm gonna yeet them off the face of the earth, not credit their good points

Scum defend mislim bait all the time? Are you saying for some reason scum!mistyx is more likely to push town!cakez over the edge on a wagon instead of just hard defend? What is this based of from? Like how you would be?

[Aristeia]

1039 feels like town entitlement, 1078 is a good response imo, like 1121 too bc the frustration feels kinda genuine esp w/ the earlier concerns about backpedaling

and i think he way he pivoted into voting onto me felt like it was a genuine scumread that he wanted to pursue

1039 can very easily be "why the fuck is this happening to me again" because he got yeeted as scum d1 in the last large theme we played together.

1078 is not a good response - instead of trying to differentiate between the sheepers and figure out which of them could be scum he's just like "fuck it not interested" which makes no sense from a town perspective if you're being pushed to hard and the votes are flying at you quickly.

instead of having a mindset of "hey i'm being run up, let's try to figure out who is the scum in the people running me up for an easy mislim" he's saying man i need to figure out how to address their legitimate concerns with my play and see if i can get them to not vote me. then he says oh look none of them are asking me for anything so i guess i cant get them to stop voting me, which is p wild.

Lastly I'm not sure how you got he's genuinely scumreading you and he wants to pursue you, he just threw out three names, gimli, misty, asri, voted gimli at 1121 and switched his vote to you five minutes later after Firebringer told him he'd be down for a mistyX wagon. That's like basically any port in a storm - if anything he doesn't even care to differentiate between the strength of the "scumreads" which he doesn't bother to flesh out he's just going with whatever somebody told him to do in the moment.

[Firebringer]

What do you see as towny, answering everything with emojis?

What?

I think i have multitude of things I look for.
I go first on trying to understand a player.
What is X mindset, what makes sense for X t odo here as one alignment versus other, etc.

r u just reaction defending and accusing me of low level analysis or what.
If u think any read of mine is undeveloped and bad tell me what they are.

[furtiveglance]

why is it very town

Because if the biggest wagon is pushing scum!me, I'm gonna yeet them off the face of the earth, not credit their good points

Scum defend mislim bait all the time? Are you saying for some reason scum!mistyx is more likely to push town!cakez over the edge on a wagon instead of just hard defend? What is this based of from? Like how you would be?

It's based on what's more intuitive

[petapan]

why is it very town

Because if the biggest wagon is pushing scum!me, I'm gonna yeet them off the face of the earth, not credit their good points

that's not good reasoning at all, cakez had plenty of momentum already, i think scum pushing him there could easily choose to stay away from it

i don't think it's a particularly scummy post but townreading her for that reason is pretty facile

[furtiveglance]

What do you see as towny, answering everything with emojis?

What?

I think i have multitude of things I look for.
I go first on trying to understand a player.
What is X mindset, what makes sense for X t odo here as one alignment versus other, etc.

r u just reaction defending and accusing me of low level analysis or what.
If u think any read of mine is undeveloped and bad tell me what they are.

I'm surprised and slightly bemused that you see actually pro-town things as just 'easy busy work' or whatever, and your townread on Alisae for instance is based on e being rude to you via emojis and something called 'grandson'

[furtiveglance]

why is it very town

Because if the biggest wagon is pushing scum!me, I'm gonna yeet them off the face of the earth, not credit their good points

that's not good reasoning at all, cakez had plenty of momentum already, i think scum pushing him there could easily choose to stay away from it

i don't think it's a particularly scummy post but townreading her for that reason is pretty facile

ok
I'm facile
bet I'm right

[Firebringer]

I'm surprised and slightly bemused that you see actually pro-town things as just 'easy busy work' or whatever, and your townread on Alisae for instance is based on e being rude to you via emojis and something called 'grandson'

I don't think u understand my reads now.

[Asri Teroka]

This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.

This one feels only Black feels better, and then only very slightly! Not that much in truth. Perhaps the Furtive One might feel better than Black? Or might not.

[Firebringer]

I am actually null on Alisae right now.

[furtiveglance]

I am actually null on Alisae right now.

Yeah I didn't know that

[furtiveglance]

This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.

This one feels only Black feels better, and then only very slightly! Not that much in truth. Perhaps the Furtive One might feel better than Black? Or might not.

Is the Cakez read based on meta? gamestate? General scumtells in their posting?

Just pick A, B, C, or D)N/A

[Firebringer]

i mean the last time i mentioned alisae i said e was popping on my radar as scummy. So i don't know why you thought my last read of alisae was town. I don't think i have stated alisae town once in this game? But maybe i did when i was joking around with e.

[furtiveglance]

well I missed that then

[Black]

why is it very town

Because if the biggest wagon is pushing scum!me, I'm gonna yeet them off the face of the earth, not credit their good points

Except Misty never had the biggest wagon on her. So how does this explanation even correlate?

It feels like you're throwing out definitive town reads with little backing to buddy up to people

[petapan]

ok
I'm facile
bet I'm right

betting you're right on a player being town doesn't mean shit dude, mathematically you're more likely to be right than not - her being town make your logic good you just used bad process and got lucky

like how people think they're good at finding townreads but they're not, they're just succeeding at something they were mathematically favored to win

[furtiveglance]

why is it very town

Because if the biggest wagon is pushing scum!me, I'm gonna yeet them off the face of the earth, not credit their good points

Except Misty never had the biggest wagon on her. So how does this explanation even correlate?

It feels like you're throwing out definitive town reads with little backing to buddy up to people

Cakez is the biggest wagon, and pushing Mistyxx

[Firebringer]

ok
I'm facile
bet I'm right

betting you're right on a player being town doesn't mean shit dude, mathematically you're more likely to be right than not - her being town make your logic good you just used bad process and got lucky

like how people think they're good at finding townreads but they're not, they're just succeeding at something they were mathematically favored to win

if you bet on me being scum your always right though.

[Black]

This one feels only Black feels better, and then only very slightly! Not that much in truth. Perhaps the Furtive One might feel better than Black? Or might not.

I think you were right the first time. furtive is scum

[Black]

Cakez is the biggest wagon, and pushing Mistyxx

I'm sorry, I misunderstood

[furtiveglance]

ok
I'm facile
bet I'm right

betting you're right on a player being town doesn't mean shit dude, mathematically you're more likely to be right than not - her being town make your logic good you just used bad process and got lucky

like how people think they're good at finding townreads but they're not, they're just succeeding at something they were mathematically favored to win

Does anyone else get salty scum vibes from this (and peta's whole ISO)? He was NOT like this in Newbie 2101

[furtiveglance]

This one feels only Black feels better, and then only very slightly! Not that much in truth. Perhaps the Furtive One might feel better than Black? Or might not.

I think you were right the first time. furtive is scum

You really did misunderstand then