I think it's kind of bullshit that you're like "he's a journalist and he 'frames' things to his advantage" and then just link to posts and say I'm not sorting people. It feels very driven by assumptions that journalists are conniving and manipulate words or something, which is not what I'm doing at all in any of those posts. You say I'm being shallow and not trying to understand people...but literally the posts you quote are mostly me asking people to explain their thinking.In post 1220, Aristeia wrote: Baltar -
A lot of the issues I have with his play is that I don't think he's really interacting to sort people - it feels like he's just arguing with people to win arguments?
He's a journalist by trade so one of the things he does fairly well is to "frame" the issue in a way that's favorable to him for example:
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I don't really think these posts are helping him sort people - it's just like he decided he was the referee of the argument and ruled that he was being extremely reasonable and like how could anyone disagree with him?
A lot of the questions he's asked are kind of surface level and I don't see how they really help him understand more about a player's alignment or thought process, it feels like interacting to interact rather than genuine curiosity/sorting.
Lastly his treatment of Klick as his lord and savior feels really weird and ??? to me like I don't really understand his treatment of Klick as his top townread and the rock that he leans on at all because like
1) why is klick his top townread? These are the only posts I found in his iso that really talk about the Klick TR and the only content is "because he outted the PT first", which imo isn't even like a great reason but the thing I don't like is how he first promises a towncase to Furtive telling him to back off then when Furtive asks for that towncase, he just handwaves and repeats the PT outting reason again. It feels like making a promise to get someone to fuck off and not really keeping it because you never really had a towncase or compelling reasons outside of "becuase he outted the hood" in the first place.
709 - Me asking Peta if he thinks my confidence is more of a problem than my reasoning on asri, which actually led to me productively understanding Peta's issue was rooted more in the confidence side of things. Wrong of him, but not unreasonable entirely. Good for me to understand.
1089 - those are just shitty posts from Peta and I don't see how you can look at those and say I'm the one being unreasonable there.
1090 - asking follow up questions to Cakez to understand where he is coming from.
1113 - me literally trying to check my own biases here.
1156 - again, asking Gimli his thought process on why he thinks I'm scummy. How is this surface level or not trying to understand people's motivations?
This is kind of a garbage list that looks like you're trying to beef up a case that doesn't really hold together.
As far as making a klick towncase, I can still do that. The hood thing is definitely the strongest bit of it to me, and I don't really care if you think that's not good reasoning. It is good reasoning from a psychological point of view, and I stand by it. I also think Klick has been fairly transparent in their thinking all game, and I tend to town read that.
I just got lazy yesterday and played video games instead of actually making a case or doing about 10 other things I keep telling myself to do this game. I've mostly been playing this game so far from my phone, and I'm finding that less than helpful for making cases or more deep divey work because I can't seem to get small quote selection to work on mobile, which is annoying.
