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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:54 am

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the kyoko Lone theory is a strong one, I think.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:55 am

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I wanna flip dr drew anyway
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:14 am

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In post 999, Marashu wrote:
In post 997, Kokichi Oma wrote: Can someone explain how this conspirators works? Confused on that one. They don't know mafia and mafia knows them?
Conspirators is the name of the groupscum. Lone is a member of the groupscum but are not in the scum PT and do not know who their teammates are. The ones in the PT have a list of POSSIBLE teammates, but half the list will be people who are not on their team. For example, with these players:

A - Conspirator
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C- Lone Conspirator
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A and B would share a PT. C wins with A and B, but if both A and B are removed from the game, C loses. A and B receive a list, saying either C or D is their partner. They can choose to bring in anyone on the list. If they choose C, C is no longer a loner, and will not lose if A and B are removed from the game. However, if they choose to bring D in to the PT, that means there's a townie with full access to the scum PT. D is also informed that they are on the list, so D would know that it's possible to get recruited, and would know that it's a conspirator game. C and D also don't flip their alignments on death.
Thats way too confusing. But I get it now thanks
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:26 am

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In post 970, Marashu wrote: Did KT take that role as scum?
How would he know that he would be scum?
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:32 am

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Really that's a question to help hone thoughts.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:39 am

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Um, what? This... but... the Picks PM has alignment in it, so you know what alignment you are when you pick..? What?
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:03 am

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Oh I guess it does. It's been so long since I looked at it. I thought we picked blind but I guess not.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:47 am

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I think this makes is more likely that you do have the must pick miller role.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:18 am

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Votecount 2.0.2
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Doctor Drew (2) Enchant, Herta,
Aisa (2) Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu, Doctor Drew

Kokichi Oma (1) Gimli
Gimli (1) Kokichi Oma
Kyoko Kirigiri (1) KittyTacky
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu (1) Aisa


Not Voting (3) Not_Mafia, Kyoko Kirigiri, Marashu,

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Deadline (expired on 2023-02-12 22:03:22)

Note: This is where a note would be, if there was one.
Last edited by MegAzumarill on Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:20 am

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Gimli not voting for Drew gives me pause.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:24 am

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Marashu -- Town
Aisa -- Town lean
KittyTacky -- scum lean
Not_Mafia -- not_mafia
Gimli -- town lean
Kyoko Kirigiri -- taking at word not a threat, don't see why not
Kokichi Oma -- null
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu -- town lean
Enchant -- enchant
Doctor Drew -- scum lean

If Kyoko is a non-threat 3P then they're lone wolf? If so then other scum reads must be partnered. I need to think whether it makes sense that KT and Drew are partnered.

One player I'm absolutely not getting is Kokichi.
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:38 am

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In post 966, Marashu wrote:
In post 964, Gimli wrote:
In post 963, Marashu wrote: Or I'm blind (in my defense, it was hidden by spoiler tags).
ah, I see. so we're not necessarily playing against that groupscum.

you and enchant mentioned us knowing how many factions there are in the game. I'm not sure I read why or, if I did, I didn't understand.
TLDR is that in the setup post, mod says there's one true groupscum and one "Any" alignment (could be solo or another groupscum). So it's 2 non-town alignments in the game.
I was under the impression of possibly 4 total scum. so it could be as many as 6? with 3 in each?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:43 am

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In post 1008, MegAzumarill wrote:

Votecount 2.0.2
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Doctor Drew (3) Enchant, Herta, Kokichi Oma [E-3]

Aisa (2) Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu, Doctor Drew

Kokichi Oma (1) Gimli
Gimli (1) Kokichi Oma
Kyoko Kirigiri (1) KittyTacky
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu (1) Aisa


Not Voting (3) Not_Mafia, Kyoko Kirigiri, Marashu,

With 11 votes in play it takes 6 to eliminate.
Deadline (expired on 2023-02-12 22:03:22)

Note: This is where a note would be, if there was one.
I'm assuming this is an error or do I have a double vote today
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:44 am

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In post 1010, Herta wrote: One player I'm absolutely not getting is Kokichi.
Why is this? Let's talk then. Cause I have pause about your posts today.

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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:49 am

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In post 1012, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1008, MegAzumarill wrote:

Votecount 2.0.2
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Doctor Drew (3) Enchant, Herta, Kokichi Oma [E-3]

Aisa (2) Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu, Doctor Drew

Kokichi Oma (1) Gimli
Gimli (1) Kokichi Oma
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Not Voting (3) Not_Mafia, Kyoko Kirigiri, Marashu,

With 11 votes in play it takes 6 to eliminate.
Deadline (expired on 2023-02-12 22:03:22)

Note: This is where a note would be, if there was one.
I'm assuming this is an error or do I have a double vote today
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:54 am

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Aw, I wanted a double vote.

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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:56 am

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In post 1009, Herta wrote: Gimli not voting for Drew gives me pause.
I certainly will
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:20 am

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In post 1011, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 966, Marashu wrote:
In post 964, Gimli wrote:
In post 963, Marashu wrote: Or I'm blind (in my defense, it was hidden by spoiler tags).
ah, I see. so we're not necessarily playing against that groupscum.

you and enchant mentioned us knowing how many factions there are in the game. I'm not sure I read why or, if I did, I didn't understand.
TLDR is that in the setup post, mod says there's one true groupscum and one "Any" alignment (could be solo or another groupscum). So it's 2 non-town alignments in the game.
I was under the impression of possibly 4 total scum. so it could be as many as 6? with 3 in each?
Maybe? The setup doesn't go into exact number, just that the mod should balance alignments. The example provided has 9:3:1. I don't know if that would become 9:2:2 or 8:3:2 or 7:3:3, but if it's 7:3:3 this is going to be a very difficult game.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:00 am

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Yikes. 10 people with 6 scum is scary. I just need to find 4 people I townread completely
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:07 pm

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In post 936, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 839, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: UNVOTE: kyoko kirigiri
I don’t want to let her go that easily but I also need to think over her reaction test. Would like if she addressed my question I posed to her in Day 1.

Be back later.
what was the question? Im sorry no time for iso till later just skimming and comment on some stuff on phone
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:09 pm

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In post 581, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 161, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 160, Gimli wrote:
In post 158, KittyTacky wrote: It's the awkward period when RVS is over but there are still no leads. That's why is dead. Also I don't think there's much else to talk about, the list is pretty big as far as content goes so far.
yeah I agree the lich lead rist trademark has been the thing that's happening in the game. that and the miller claim, which are the two things kyoko doesn't want/likes to talk about. I think it's a little odd, seems like picking on the things that are moving the game forward in any direction.

I think trying a reads list this early is towny, shows eagerness to solve and whatnot. and as I said I like my position in it. normally I get strong townread by the scum cause I'm all looney in the thread and I think pocketing me isn't a very hard thing to do, but this game I wasn't being townread by anyone yet so it seems like an organic approach to my slot. I'm also feeling uneasy by kokichi but I'll try to re-read parts of the game and see if I can write some words about it. I thought it was peculiar that kokichi decided to position in my favour when herta scumread me for asking about the setup, but he didn't push herta for it or anything, so it seemed like just posturing which may or may not be uncharacteristic for kokichi.
I don't think teasing for giving a read list while you're waiting for nothing, when also the read list is mainly consistent of nothing cause there are nothing much to make a list from is towny.

"I will wait till last guy posts then will share you my read list about everyone when almost everyone is null"

that's not towny IMO.

and what about kokichi is making you uneasy?
Why do you care what Gimli thinks of Kokichi?
Here’s the question
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:15 pm

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In post 941, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 862, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 790, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 759, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 757, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 755, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 711, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: any ways eno ugh soft clai ming

I can full claim end of day. Thin king ab out it
Hang the fuck on
Why are you acting like this? I wouldn’t have been able to target you, and you wouldn’t even know if I had!
Did I miss something where Kyo is blaming you for this, I assume, post restriction?
I don’t believe it’s a post restriction, I think she’s trying to play around a presumed action that I did not take.
And why does that make you think I'm scum? elaborate
Because it felt like you were shading me. By trying to make it look like I took an action I couldn’t have, you implicated I had some workaround for Marashu’s role. But since I legitimately submitted no action, and you wouldn’t have been informed if I had, there was no tangible reason for you to believe I had targeted you.
Exactly, everyone knows you couldn't have targeted me with that. So how could that be a shading attempt?
As I said, you may have been aiming to suggest I had a way to bypass hail
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:16 pm

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In post 943, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 878, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 838, Kokichi Oma wrote: Drew seems to be the best argument for vote so far. No one else really gave a scumread though. So by default you win for now, Mara!

VOTE: Drew
What about Gimli’s case against Kyoko?
He just called me 3p cause I used the word friend in my soft. how is that a case?
:/
I mostly asked for academic reasons
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:18 pm

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In post 960, Not_Mafia wrote: My role is equivalent to a gunsmith, in that it detects a certain trait that is scum 95%, but is not a gunsmith itself, I will not be full claiming
For an ice type you’re claiming some spicy shit.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:22 pm

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In post 991, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 971, Marashu wrote:
In post 969, Gimli wrote:
In post 429, Marashu wrote: Snow would be useful in the case of someone saying "I'm going to target x tonight." If x was not targeted and y dies when nobody claimed they would target y, barring shenanigans we'd have a good place to start looking for scum.
let's bring this to the table today?
Not against it. I'd want to make sure we're coordinated if we do it though.
I think Hail is just better overall better. Gives us a head start before scum starts killing (assuming kitty is town). But, I'm not against snow
Kitty is essentially leashed
Also, maraschino has 1 more use of weather total, is that the correct interpretation?
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