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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:07 am

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In post 347, Aureal wrote: Does not follow. If you believe that it's possible for someone to simply look at the thread to see Elements pointing it out as a possible scumslip and just go "interesting, could be something to that" then comment briefly and go back to what they were doing without spending an excessive amount of time analyzing every possibility, you have to believe it possible for both of us. Since I know that to be the case for me, I can readily believe it could be the case for Weuler as well.
The read was done with an assumption that you and Weuler had spent time analyzing what the implications of a slip would be, the element of human fallibility I took into account was making a mistake in the logical reasoning of that analysis.

To make a metaphor, say you had two programmers tasked with solving the same problem or two drivers tasked with driving a specific long route while obeying all traffic laws. Allowing for human fallibility, you'd expect the two programmers to hand in programs with different bugs and the two drivers to have broken different laws in different places. It's because I thought that you and Weuler made the same mistake that I considered it to be significant in that read.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:10 am

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In post 305, Human wrote: Then maybe we should try to see what Wueler flips then?
In post 307, Black wrote: I'm down for this.
I really don't like these posts; as StD said, what's the rush? Even if you think Weuler has a 100% probability of being scum there's still plenty of time before the day ends to go look for the second scum and still plenty of posts to go through and ask questions about
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:11 am

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In my defense I just said I was down to flip Weuler. I didn't vote for him because I don't think we should end the Day yet
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:13 am

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Yeah sorry I'm rushing things
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:23 am

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Python, got any thoughts on StD?
I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:28 am

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In post 354, Elements wrote: Python, got any thoughts on StD?
Either of you play together recently? So far the only thing I've seen from him is a gut read on you
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:29 am

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Btw @Human, my name is neither Weular, nor Wueler :)
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:29 am

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Oh whoops my bad
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:38 am

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Python's iso is wild. Not necessarily in a scummy or towny way though, but it's probably something worth analysing.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:41 am

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In post 355, usesPython wrote:
In post 354, Elements wrote: Python, got any thoughts on StD?
Either of you play together recently? So far the only thing I've seen from him is a gut read on you
We have a recently completed large together but looking at that will have not bearing on this game
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:42 am

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In post 355, usesPython wrote:
In post 354, Elements wrote: Python, got any thoughts on StD?
Either of you play together recently? So far the only thing I've seen from him is a gut read on you
What do you think about that being the only thing he's done?
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:42 am

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In post 358, Weuler wrote: Python's iso is wild. Not necessarily in a scummy or towny way though, but it's probably something worth analysing.
So you're getting a null read on his iso but it's wild? Can you elaborate?
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:49 am

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In post 359, Elements wrote: We have a recently completed large together but looking at that will have not bearing on this game
Tsk tsk, forgetting about Micro 1067 already? Though you were already nightkilled by the time StD replaced into that one so fair enough
In post 360, Elements wrote: What do you think about that being the only thing he's done?
Don't like it but it's null for now, haven't had time to check his other games to see if he does that regularly though
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:22 am

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Sorry for my uhh basically V/LA.

I'll get to this shit soon, Sorry bout all that.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:45 pm

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VOTE: humanSequencer
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:03 pm

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In post 360, Elements wrote: What do you think about that being the only thing he's done?
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He's in four other games right now, I think him not posting that much here due to being overloaded is a much more compelling explanation than alternative explanations that would be AI
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:19 pm

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In post 365, usesPython wrote: Updated read:
He's in four other games right now, I think him not posting that much here due to being overloaded is a much more compelling explanation than alternative explanations that would be AI
Also as a preemptive reminder: discussion of ongoing games is not allowed and if you're not sure if something constitutes breaking this rule then PM a listmod
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:49 pm

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In post 365, usesPython wrote:
In post 360, Elements wrote: What do you think about that being the only thing he's done?
Updated read:
He's in four other games right now, I think him not posting that much here due to being overloaded is a much more compelling explanation than alternative explanations that would be AI
I think this counts as discussing ongoing games
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:49 pm

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But I'm not sure. Just be careful
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:01 pm

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In post 367, Black wrote: I think this counts as discussing ongoing games
I asked in advance before posting 365. I will not be elaborating on that read past that though
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:12 pm

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In post 369, usesPython wrote:
In post 367, Black wrote: I think this counts as discussing ongoing games
I asked in advance before posting 365. I will not be elaborating on that read past that though
Ah ok gotcha! My bad
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:19 pm

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In post 213, Aureal wrote: (the roles are probably listed by the mod in the PT even without sharing with each other, from what I can see of previous mafia PTs from newbie games)
In post 236, Aureal wrote:
In post 222, usesPython wrote: Is there a specific reason you double checked the format of a mafia PT from previous games? The exact mechanics of how mafia know their partner and roles don't seem to be that important given that the end result is the same and you don't strike me as the type of person to be this diligent about this type of stuff.
Because your comment made me curious as it hadn't even occurred to me that scum possibly wouldn't know their partner's role without sharing. Oddly, some of the non newbie threads did not give any info about roles at the start and they didn't share with each other either, though they could've gotten the info in their role PM. And it wouldn't have the same ramifications on the game as a newbie game with the set chart used here. (Ironically I did recently read an old game of mine where we apparently didn't bother to tell our teammates our cool roles, though we only got to talk at night in PMs back then)

And I totally am the kind of person who's diligent about this stuff. :igmeou:


Elements and Weuler, you two played with Aureal in Newbie 2108. Do you think this is a scumslip?
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:20 pm

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I actually think characterizing it as the only thing I've done is misrepping me. It's also a little disingenuous since I've only been playing like a day.

I tr human and sr weuler, arko, and you (elements) and have explained why for the sr
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:33 pm

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In post 372, Save The Dragons wrote: It's also a little disingenuous since I've only been playing like a day.
Which is why you're null in my read
In post 372, Save The Dragons wrote: I actually think characterizing it as the only thing I've done is misrepping me.
Good point, I forgot to mention you voting for yourself and making this read:
In post 269, Save The Dragons wrote: I think human is town

I like weuler and arko for scum at this point. Weuler made jokes all throught the first few pages of the newbie game that was brought up. It's weird theyre not funny here it was something I noticed

Arko just has that big scum energy

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In post 272, Save The Dragons wrote: I have seen/been scum before come into the thread a little bombastic and loud. His posts here seem kind of all over the place. It's not really a great tell but it has worked for me sometimes.
It's such a basic read though, made ~15 minutes after voting yourself (Which is when I'm presuming you came online and started reading) that there's nothing I can really say about it. Especially since after that read you spend most of the rest of your posts since then trying to get a read on Elements
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:37 pm

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In post 334, Save The Dragons wrote: Can you clarify why you think that and have decided to keep your vote on *checks notes* yourself?
Any chance I get an answer to this?

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