Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Alisae]

you're telling me that you want to keep redFF alive over MISTY? CSF would also be fine but HUH???
You even say the player has a pulse.
What's going on?

[Alisae]

actually i hope red is a wolf and he gets wagoned and killed and i get praised for being good at mafia but then i get to complain less in postgame so im not sure thats really as fun of an option

This is not a wolf

[Alisae]

I don't care about page count.
Want Fireisred's worldview
want Dan's worldview
want more from cakez

im here ish

ari
peta
furtive

firebringer
MT
black

redFF
gimli
baltar

klick
CSF
asri
alisae
cakez

misty
actiondan



a lot of the middle is vague and vibey i don't really feel good about anyone above the top 3

i don't really feel that confident about the people at the bottom either

the klick and csf placement might be outdated i dunno, they were kinda in a "not town yet but leave alone for now" place

I think instead of jumping to conclusions I should probably try to digest what this is.
I'm really having a hard time doing that

[Firebringer]

alisae, can you do me a favor
when u start jumping and making big proclamations in the game.
I want you to write out the process involved in doing so.

Because u tend to do this massive shifts and mass confidence statements and i never believe ur that confident and if u are, the way ur reads will just shift makes me go "well i can believe this was indeed a legit shift but im like how did it begin/end and where r u going"

like u come across way to conf for a person i would deem as should not be confident of anything given how u have interacted and played this game.

Not saying u suck, but like.
It seems like ur hip firing reads and u should not be as confident as u pretend to be.

[Alisae]

Come on, you have to let me say at least some things just because I know they'll annoy you.

Why did you start doing the strike out thing?

Seems like a lot more thread controlly than I've seen you be as town recently

I kind of got this vibe from fire too. I got the feeling for a minute that I felt like I was playing with Raybells.

[Firebringer]

I felt like I was playing with Raybells.

u honor me with this undeserved compliment.

[Alisae]

I think the only reason why I'm not buying into that is because I don't have flips to really tell me otherwise. If he's a wolf, who are his teammates in his towncore? It's controlly ya but I fail to see the bigger picture here.

[ActionDan]

I thought you liked twitter posting Fire.

I'm working from home today and I've only read this page but Alisae's posts align entirely with my thoughts (see 1988)

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: redFF

[Firebringer]

I thought you liked twitter posting Fire.

i do but if alisae is going to jump every 20 pages to a new thing. I want to see how the cheese is being made in the background.

[ActionDan]

I think the only reason why I'm not buying into that is because I don't have flips to really tell me otherwise. If he's a wolf, who are his teammates in his towncore? It's controlly ya but I fail to see the bigger picture here.

The result will always boil down to my elim. It always felt designed that way and its clear he wants me dead. This was always just a convenient way of getting there

pedit:

You see the cheese. Its in the posts! Alisae quotes a post then comments. It's just not done in a wall post all at once.

[Firebringer]

You see the cheese. Its in the posts! Alisae quotes a post then comments. It's just not done in a wall post all at once.

okay maybe i will make myself clearer.
Even with Alisae commentary on posts.
I don't see the strong connection to alisae reads and the positions taken. I don't see the transitions, i see a massive disconnect to what is quoted/commented to the projection of strong positions on people/posts.

Maybe you get it. I don't. If you are going to pretend ur the alisae whisperer. Maybe help a buddy out.

Do i need to do a diagram with webs to understand my good pal Ali?

[petapan]

you're telling me that you want to keep redFF alive over MISTY? CSF would also be fine but HUH???
You even say the player has a pulse.
What's going on?

i mean do what you want boss i don't care about this day phase anymore

[ActionDan]

But actually what have Alisae's jumps been? Cakez to me is something more than one person is guilty of. And Alisae's vote on me was not because they thought I was strongly scum afaik. Why isn't this reevaluation that's going on in real time just not normal?

pedit: Well I "get it" in so much as the opinions on this page is concerned that Alisae has expressed, I happen to like them. Is there a specific one you don't get? or is it all of them so far? (I mean one concerns you so I'll chalk that up to self-interest)

[Alisae]

I'm done

[Black]

Where I come from this wasn't even a thing it was all wallposting.

I feel so sorry for you

It's actually nice to not have to wallpost all the time. Feels liberating idk

when i said im sorry for u i meant that a wallpost meta is terrible.
I would hate that.

a wallpost here and there is fine but like....if everyone just walls i would be tearing my hair out of my head

I'm so good at misunderstanding people. If we were playing a game based on that I would have won already

[Firebringer]

I'm done

????/

[ActionDan]

I can whisper that one too.

I have to actually work as well.

[Black]

actually i hope red is a wolf and he gets wagoned and killed and i get praised for being good at mafia but then i get to complain less in postgame so im not sure thats really as fun of an option

This is not a wolf

I kinda agree with this read

I'm WFH too and I have a light workload today so I'm going to try to do a little re-read. Maybe look at some isos if I can shake this lazy feeling

[Alisae]

Klick has been fine all game.
Ari is like fine.
Misty screams villager to me.
Fire see this page. Just feels villager.
Peta still feels like a villager and even the response to me seems villagery here.
Cakez seemed less agenda on catch up. Voting Gimli does what exactly if he is a wolf, don't see it.
Gimli's response to Cakez wagon was good.
Didn't read any furtive posts, can't really keep up with the tempo but it feels villagery.

I want to say CSF is a villager in this game but I don't really have a good reason to say why.
Shea's catch-up so far is fine.
I'm going to give people benefit of the doubt on Black for now, I think I also saw things I liked from him. Kinda feels like he's just playing his own game.
MT going to take people's word for so far just seems villagery.

I genuinely think Dan should flip wolf? I feel like given from what I read so far it seems like it's mostly villagers that aren't buying the cakez stuff. If this was town I would probably be ???? as to what is happening in this game. I feel like this slot just has this aroma around it that screams it has to be wolf so if it flips villager that would be very interesting.
Conversely I also think RedFF should also just flip wolf. Almost 70 pages have passed and guy has just not done much of anything in this game. I also think RedFF has presented a slight bias towards Cakez > Dan/Lycan slot. If RedFF is a villager, I want to see his play suddenly evolve like a pokemon.
If Dan flips wolf I expect Asri to flip wolf with Dan. TBH I have no reason to TR this slot anymore, I think there are just so many more players that are significantly more townie than Asri. I also think their actions could come from a wolf in this game. I feel like I cannot say they're at all townier than any of the players I want to village read.
And then there's just 1 fireisredsir in there. Honestly I don't know what it is but I felt like it was pretty easy to just skim past their posts. I think Asri, Dan, and RedFF have a significantly higher chance of flipping wolf than fireisredsir. I'm not sure Taly's play makes sense given if Asri, Dan, and RedFF are all wolves. Maybe if it was just RedFF that would make sense.

[Alisae]

Jesus that was like almost 70 pages and it's almost light out.

[Black]

move me up that might help^

Idk man. Who are your biggest scumreads? Peta and red? If I'm understanding correctly (which I admit I haven't done a lot this game) your biggest scumread on peta is that he thinks Baltar/Shea is scum, and your biggest scumread on red is that his list sucks. I kinda get the peta thing but my issue is that I feel like red has put more effort into his list than you've put in yours. Red at least gave some insight on why he feels the way he feels about the players he's sorting. Your two lists this game came with no explanations. I guess I just find it weird that you think redFF is scummy for something you're more guilty of than he is

[furtiveglance]

move me up that might help^

Idk man. Who are your biggest scumreads? Peta and red? If I'm understanding correctly (which I admit I haven't done a lot this game) your biggest scumread on peta is that he thinks Baltar/Shea is scum, and your biggest scumread on red is that his list sucks. I kinda get the peta thing but my issue is that I feel like red has put more effort into his list than you've put in yours. Red at least gave some insight on why he feels the way he feels about the players he's sorting. Your two lists this game came with no explanations. I guess I just find it weird that you think redFF is scummy for something you're more guilty of than he is

You think it was a good list?

[Alisae]

Would not be at all surprised if {Asri, Dan, RedFF} was just 3 wolf eliminations.

[Black]

@Klick, Dan, Shea -

What's been going on in the PT?