Newbie 2111 - Know Your Skittles! (Game Over)

[T-Bone]

Skittles Fact: Xofelf thinks the greatest video game of all time is E.T. for the Atari 2600.

Vote Count

Weuler - 1

(usesPython)

e-4

Aureal - 1

(Human Sequencer)

e-4

Elements - 1

(Save The Dragons)

e-4

Human Sequencer - 2

(Elements, Black)

e-3

usesPython - 1

(Aureal)

e-4

Not Voting - 3

(Arko, Human, Weuler)

With 9 Alive, It Takes 5 to Eliminate

Activity Check: Seeking Replacement for Human Sequencer

Deadline: (expired on 2023-02-16 10:00:00)

[T-Bone]

Freedom replaces Human Sequencer, effective immediately.

[Elements]

Freedom! Come liberate your slot from being scum with StD

[Black]

Elements can you elaborate on your StD read?

[Black]

Also the VC is off but whatever

[Freedom]

Freedom! Come liberate your slot from being scum with StD

Based off my skim-through, STD seems pretty jovial.
That should usually be a towntell for him.

[Freedom]

Also, customary unvote.
UNVOTE: Aureal

[Elements]

what about StD seems jovial to you? I'm not seeing it

[Black]

@Elements

Elements can you elaborate on your StD read?

[Freedom]

what about StD seems jovial to you? I'm not seeing it

He seems pretty light-hearted.

[Freedom]

For example, these posts.

Skittles Fact: Cephrir once drove 15 hours straight to see the giant ball of twine in Nebraska.

If he did that I'm gonna have to have a talk with him about how he spends his time lol

skittles fact: i'm married to one

[Save The Dragons]

The feeling is mutual, but I don't think I'm tunneling

i find it weird you think you're not tunnelling despite your apparent inability to explain your read on me even though now multiple people are asking you to do so

[Black]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elements

Now that HS has been replaced I'm moving my vote back

[Elements]

The feeling is mutual, but I don't think I'm tunneling

i find it weird you think you're not tunnelling despite your apparent inability to explain your read on me even though now multiple people are asking you to do so

it's a vibe read *shrug*

[Elements]

For example, these posts.

Skittles Fact: Cephrir once drove 15 hours straight to see the giant ball of twine in Nebraska.

If he did that I'm gonna have to have a talk with him about how he spends his time lol

skittles fact: i'm married to one

anything other than the 3 "I'm here" posts?

[Human]

No, he just replaced in why do you even have a read on guy who just entered the game

[Elements]

No, he just replaced in why do you even have a read on guy who just entered the game

StD didn't just replace in

[usesPython]

No, he just replaced in why do you even have a read on guy who just entered the game

StD didn't just replace in

He's referring to Freedom

[Elements]

But who was Human addressing?

[usesPython]

But who was Human addressing?

Asking why you expect Freedom to have anything more than the most surface level reads 10 minutes after replacing in I'm guessing

[Elements]

No, he just replaced in why do you even have a read on guy who just entered the game

Clearly asking about a read *on* Freedom

[usesPython]

No, he just replaced in why do you even have a read on guy who just entered the game

Clearly asking about a read *on* Freedom

Good point actually, Human why do you consider

anything other than the 3 "I'm here" posts?

to be a read on freedom?

[Human]

Inherently no, the way he said it kind of

[Freedom]

For example, these posts.

Skittles Fact: Cephrir once drove 15 hours straight to see the giant ball of twine in Nebraska.

If he did that I'm gonna have to have a talk with him about how he spends his time lol

skittles fact: i'm married to one

anything other than the 3 "I'm here" posts?

Not really, but then "I'm here" posts aren't exactly weird coming from STD.

[Aureal]

While this would normally then imply

2. ... Aureal [is] competent enough at analysis that mistakes can be taken to likely indicate alignment

it's completely contradicted by 376. This seems like an actual attempt at factual analysis, but falls apart the second you actually look into it.

You really like feeling smarter than other people, don't you?

The read was done with an assumption that you and Weuler had spent time analyzing what the implications of a slip would be,

Well, there's your problem.

You thought that solve post was fluff originally. Now you think it's the product of a thorough analysis of every possible scenario? C'mon.

Is factually incorrect and can be verified by looking at post numbers (explained in 378)

There is nothing incorrect here. You explained it yourself in the post you cite here. First, I posted my solve. Second, you said that I was only posting fluff (thus including my solve post). Third, I elaborated with some reasons to support my solve. It is exactly as I remember it. This post is calling you out for not having any middle ground between fluff and thorough analysis of every possible scenario, which is pretty clearly where the solve belongs. That's why I asked you how you feel about that area earlier today.

Now you're just really grasping for anything. It's like you

want

me to have not specified that I had looked at previous game PTs because that would be easier to pass off as sus, so you're just acting like it's what I said anyway.

Is implicitly incorrect because if I wanted it to look like Aureal didn't specify she looked at previous games PTs then why would I directly quote her saying it when I asked Weuler and Elements for their input.

This is absolutely incredible. "I didn't make a mistake, YOU made a mistake!" Why do you think my reaction to your post is so incredulous? You quoted the exact reasons why it isn't a slip in your post then acted like they weren't there. If you'd left out the exact quotes so that it wasn't perfectly clear that you were barking up the wrong tree, I might have just quoted them back at you with emphasis on the relevant info and told you to read more carefully, but they were right there for you.

If you're scum about to wallpost a long analysis defending yourself and post a read, wouldn't you post in the PT to get a second set of eyes on this first? And then wouldn't that scum team double check those statements to be factual so as to not look scummy and instead opt for an alternative explanation that's consistent with the posts so far?

Wow, this is even more of a stretch than my figuring that first-time newbies might not immediately realize that mafia know a good bit more about the setup than town. (Which, btw, was my suggesting a POSSIBILITY, which you have been turning into a firm stance that anything else is impossible.) FROM WHAT I'VE READ OF OPENED MAFIA PTS (*cough* ) I haven't seen mafia doing much post drafting there. And if you think that mafia should be doing that, what do you think I should have done as mafia if my partner was low activity or inactive, as some of our players have been?

And of course, you have pointed out no statements that are not factual.

These read like legitimate mistakes that I don't see why scum!Aureal and her hypothetical scum partner would make but can be very easily explained by town!Aureal not being experienced in rigorous analysis and being confident in her memories to not double check the entire thread before posting

My memory is just fine, and you

definitely

really like feeling smarter than other people (in a bad way), so I'm not sure I'm going to bother with any more of this. Everyone else has probably already tuned it out.