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[Shirou]

if Fire is town I'm starting to think there is no way they don't have a Ninja to counter the action tracking investigatives in fact

We would have one conf town + two alignment clearing investigatives + tons of action investigatives

I really believe on a Ninja if Fire is town.

[Firebringer]

Kowah/Gera/Herta/Penguin/Freedom

3 scum in there
i could throw a dart and have a 60% getting it right

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Gera

[Shirou]

I've a very very malicious plan for us to do if Fire is town and not nightkilled tonight.

It's such a good plan in my mind that I'm rather uninterested on killing Fire today even if I think he has pretty decent odds of being scum with recent developments on mech.

If Fire is town I think we may have this in the bag by this point, and it's funny because I don't think we would have played very well either way. If Fire is scum...well, there's a partner somewhere in the PoE so I want to hunt for it.

[PenguinPower]

You’re really hurting my penguinfeelings and I demand an apology in postgame.

[Shirou]

Gehehehehe

If Fire is town and scum doesn't nightkill him I'm giving scum a HEART ATTACK TOMORROW!!

[Shirou]

You're also gonna enjoy it if town Fire. We're making scum sweat buckets in that world.

[Shirou]

if Gera flips scum and we've space for 2 lims tomorrow *and* Fire is town

tomorrow is pure wifom gold...I'm daydreaming already of it

[PenguinPower]

creepy vibes ngl

[Firebringer]

there are strong reasons why i picked shirou as my check night 1.

[Kowahbunga]

Gamma = Announcing Lazy Hider
Brickwall = Loud Novice Follower
Gryff = VT
Klick = Loud Announcing JOAT (Motion-finder, Watcher-finder, Neapolitan, Tracker)

Shirou = VT
Andante = VT
PenguinPower = VT
Kowah = VT
redFF = VT

Firebringer = Loud Loyal Visitor
Geraintm = Announcing Compulsive Voyeur
Herta = Loud Roaming Motion Detector
Freedom = Announcing Roaming Watcher

I feel like a lot of these claimed roles are similar. Am I wrong?

[Kowahbunga]

Especially when you consider what Klick and Brick were capable of?

[Shirou]

Listen, I need to go back to thinking about the setup with the new information of a confirmable IC, and I've some heavy doubts about Fire being town now due to it, but I think unless Fire is mechanically confirmed scum, there's way too much to gain from his role to eliminate him today, and this is the reason:

Ok, so Fire visits someone, and only they supposedly know that if town right?

And with Geraintm killed we'll have a PoE of 4 players right?

This is an interesting plan in the scenario of town!Fire:

Fire

ramdomly

chooses someone inside [Penguim/Kowah/Herta/Freedom] tonight

(assuming we eliminate Geraintm)

Then...tomorrow, Fire picks an order of his own choosing of who should start "claiming". The claims are either "Fire visited me" or "Fire didn't visit me".

Penguim should

always

be the last one to claim though, I'm not budgeting on this I think Fire, if you're scum there's too much benefit to make town!Penguim claim first and I believe PP has decent odds of being just town like Andante.

[Firebringer]

im gonna visit Redff and see what he is up to tonight

[Shirou]

scum can't know who town!Fire picked if that's the scenario we're in.

They would need to guess, and it can reveal *more* than one scum, if for example one scum that was visited says they weren't, but their buddy says they were.

Fire shouldn't say ANYTHING about what is a lie or not until everyone has claimed "visited me" or "not visited me". He should only select the order they go about it while eating popcorn.

[Firebringer]

do failed actions show up as motion?

[Shirou]

do failed actions show up as motion?

I don't know but also:

We're leashing all of Herta/Freedom/Gera actions into someone that is confirmed or supposedly confirmed town

we aren't letting they use their PRs free when there's such good odds of scum being there

[Firebringer]

Freedom watches me
Herta motion detects me
I visit random person

if the ninja exists this doesn't prevent my death but would at least confirm that herta isn't a ninja

[Freedom]

do failed actions show up as motion?

It depends on the cause but if it's due to the Loyal part of your role, it would show up.

[Firebringer]

do failed actions show up as motion?

It depends on the cause but if it's due to the Loyal part of your role, it would show up.

ohhh then a motion detect on me does literally nothing

[Herta]

A Motion Detector is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Motion Detector should receive the same result if they see an action being performed by their target as they would if they see an action being performed on their target (and the same if they see both). If their target is Ascetic or targeted by a Rolestopper, they should receive a "No Result" pm, the same as if they'd been blocked themselves. A Motion Detector would not see a Ninja performing a kill.

[Herta]

I'm going to confirm with Mod.

[Freedom]

Freedom watches me
Herta motion detects me
I visit random person

if the ninja exists this doesn't prevent my death but would at least confirm that herta isn't a ninja

Sure.
I guess.

[Shirou]

Freedom watches me
Herta motion detects me
I visit random person

if the ninja exists this doesn't prevent my death but would at least confirm that herta isn't a ninja

sounds like a viable way to go about it but dunno if there's something else

doing the same thing to redFF may be overall safer.

[Firebringer]

why do it to Redff
if scum went for kill on him that gives me a free check on someone
If scum kill me while being watched we get way more info