HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[Radical Rat]

I will give you your space, but if you are Town, just. Consider it when you're in a better headspace, please.

[Radical Rat]

In the meantime, there's not much I can really say. All my cards are on the table.

I'll try to check back to answer questions, but in lieu of any groundbreaking developments, my vote will only be between Malakittens or Eiralox today. Preference on Malakittens because I think she's the most likely to wriggle out of it after I'm gone tomorrow.

[Killing Joke]

So where I’m at, if RR has the black spot, scum obviously knows it’s elo and occams razor says that probably makes the most sense as a potential frame. I think it’s extremely likely that scum wanted to make anyone disagreeing with RR look bad because if that’s not the case, then no clue what the scumteam would be smoking. Of course I also realize that’s wifom but if you think about it, it definitely looks to me like scum’s agenda was to paint the narrative as one where we should in all likelihood sheep RR, which makes me further convinced that RR’s solve is likely wrong.

I also find it extremely concerning that someone who has hardclaimed crew has the black spot because scum should logical be trying to bs tprs.

@RR, why do you think you over anyone in this playerlist was blackspotted? See if kills were actually not delayed than that would be extremely different but don’t you think it’s odd that if your solve is correct, it wouldn’t be Elements?

~H

[Eiralox]

I don't see my headspace changing. After Elements flips I'll be communicative and open, I'm not speculating beyond this flip because I've been so horrendously wrong on Gimli that I'm sticking with what I'm certain on.


So expect me to be exactly like this, or not present at all, for the rest of this game-day.

My vote speaks for itself.

[Flea The Magician]

I will hopefully be back later with thoughts, this headache is not moving. Was hoping id have some thinking power by now -.-

Quick thinking out loud.

Mala im not willing to touch, Elements i need to consider, KJ needs to pull themselves together if theyre town and not revert to D1. Bella and Eira still seem really off to me, Bella more than Eira but im considering if thats a play style clash as well at this point from both sides...

I have having to full reset reads in large YOLOs.
*places butt on the fence and grumbles*
Hopefully i can come back without a headache and make sense of what's going on.

[Eiralox]

Bellaphant, MalaKittens, Flea the Magician, do you/fae believe that Radical Rat, indeed, has the black spot?

This is the only question I feel I need to ask today.


Beyond that, nada.

[Flea The Magician]

Bellaphant, MalaKittens, Flea the Magician, do you/fae believe that Radical Rat, indeed, has the black spot?

This is the only question I feel I need to ask today.

Beyond that, nada.

Yes, theres been no counter claim. I wouldve expected a counterclaim given traitor speculation potentially makes them an easy yeet. Quite a bit of potential info here i will breakdown later.

[Eiralox]

So fae is not considering that scum have taken no action to auto-win this game-day? Thank fae for responding.

MalaKittens, Bellaphant, I'd love an answer as well!

[Radical Rat]

So where I’m at, if RR has the black spot, scum obviously knows it’s elo and occams razor says that probably makes the most sense as a potential frame. I think it’s extremely likely that scum wanted to make anyone disagreeing with RR look bad because if that’s not the case, then no clue what the scumteam would be smoking. Of course I also realize that’s wifom but if you think about it, it definitely looks to me like scum’s agenda was to paint the narrative as one where we should in all likelihood sheep RR, which makes me further convinced that RR’s solve is likely wrong.

I also find it extremely concerning that someone who has hardclaimed crew has the black spot because scum should logical be trying to bs tprs.

@RR, why do you think you over anyone in this playerlist was blackspotted? See if kills were actually not delayed than that would be extremely different but don’t you think it’s odd that if your solve is correct, it wouldn’t be Elements?

~H

I think it was because I'd be the hardest to mislim, or to try to WIFOM me out of my solve.

As long as the roleblocker survives, Town!Elements isn't a threat to scum (and even without the roleblock, I don't think there's anything else Elements could catch at this point). Enough people have expressed suspicion of Elements that she's definitely viable for a mislim.

If I were scum, my pick probably would have been Bella, using the roleblocker to pierce through her redirect. There is a small lingering paranoia that the reason this didn't happen is because Bella's actually scum.... But I don't actually believe that to be the case. If that's how it turns out, Bella probably deserves a Scummy.

Another consideration is who was willing to vote for each person. Scum only need to convince one Townie to win here. I believe the only people scumreading me were Eiralox, and you (as a slot). Malakittens I'm sure could be convinced to given my push on her. If you're all the scumteam... Well, you won't be getting rid of me otherwise.

Everyone else had at least one person scumreading, or at least open to scumreading, them outside of that solve.

Flea had Bella and vice versa, plus I had displayed wavering on my Flea read. Elements had me, and I hadn't yet expressed that I wanted Elements to be the last scum eliminated if they were scum. Eiralox and Malakittens had Elements and me. And you had... I think everyone at varying points throughout the day.

That said, you could very well be right that I'm wrong and was targeted to bait me into pursuing an incorrect solve. It is for that reason that I'm trying to take things slower and engage with everyone again before making a final decision. But when my two strongest scumreads are just... Outright refusing that. I don't really know what else to do

[Radical Rat]

So fae is not considering that scum have taken no action to auto-win this game-day? Thank fae for responding.

MalaKittens, Bellaphant, I'd love an answer as well!

It's not really auto-win if it only protects one of them though.

[Eiralox]

Bellaphant, MalaKittens, Flea the Magician, do you/fae believe that Radical Rat, indeed, has the black spot?

This is the only question I feel I need to ask today.

MalaKittens, Bellaphant, I'd love an answer as well!

[Radical Rat]

Yes, I know you won't answer me. Still feel the need to point out misinformation though

[Eiralox]

Radical Rat, I'll say this single thing:

If you are crew, and that means you do have the black spot, Elements guarantees to be a mutineer flip.

If you are crew, you can respond to this in any way you wish, choose to believe or disbelieve what I say, judge me by any criterion you so see fit to choose, but know one thing:

I guarantee it. Whatever you choose to do from here on out, if ye be crew, if ye be loyal, remember that one thing.

[Radical Rat]

I don't suppose you could say one more single thing, being an explanation of why that's such a guarantee?

I understand that Elements can be scum here. I do not understand the certainty you have.

[Eiralox]

There is nothing more I have to add to what I have said.

[Eiralox]

In fact

[Eiralox]

Ill claim this post

[Elements]

Bella, how can you think Eira isn't scum?

[Bellaphant]

I just don't see why scum eira would be doing this? I don't know, I know I can be pocketed by them, it happened in our last game.

RR has been my strongest tr all game.

[Elements]

I just don't see why scum eira would be doing this? I don't know, I know I can be pocketed by them, it happened in our last game.

Do you not think town after having multiple of their reads be proven wrong at least consider an alternative. Eira is just doubling down and repeating yesterday. I'm seeing it as scum who have backed themselves into a corner and have to keep pushing the same narrative or will be exposed by any insubstantial attempt to be town.

[Malakittens]

IDK

usually scum in melo try to keep options open

so i think double down might be in a favor point favor for eira

[Malakittens]

So right now I'm at the following:

town - KJ, RR(mainly due to the blackspot) no one else has claimed it.
Leaning more town?? - Eira & Fae
my scum pool: Bella, Elements

idk if I like this

i feel like one of maybe eira/fae is moved
i been reading bella as town majority of the game with a few times of dislike, but the claim ugh
i can see scum having a direector

[Malakittens]

I can deffo see rr having the black spot

scum wouldn't kill me b/c a lot of people expressed limming me because of doubts aka elements/rr
scum won't kill elements prob similar reasons for me doubts: eira/kj/fae/me
" ... " bella due to doubts of me/ele
"...." Fae due to doubts of kj/bella/rr/eira

I feel like scum would be willing to kill in KJ / RR over majority of us who are left b/c of having majority of towncred

i feel like if ele does flip RB'r i can see KJ being killed next bc of titus it basically makes them conf town imo

[Elements]

usually scum in melo try to keep options open

so i think double down might be in a favor point favor for eira

First scum game I played I won in final three because of this exact reasoning

[Malakittens]

for which