In post 3846, Radical Rat wrote:
Okay Eira, I'll bite. But I won't vote for Elements today. I don't see a world in which Scum!Elements visits Scum!KJ. It would have to be some kind of weird augmentative role. Either a doctor, or something more exotic. It's hypothetically possible... but not very plausible.
I actually gave the answer to this question, directly or indirectly to you, on Day Two. You recall?
You recall what you said, at end Day One? When you voted neither Passenger nor Fenrir?
After Joker claimed.... what was it.... well to be informed, basically, calling you a traitor, and saying Fenrir was some super special role that HAD TO DIE (read: scum really, really feared Save The Dragons and really relished that mis-elim, which Gimli and I enabled)...
You said something......
I believe you called for a vigilante, our Captain as it turns out, to shoot Killing Joke.
I mean... with how reluctant Nancy is about actually flipping Elements... Kinda see my point here? With crew having such killing power?
Like, as i said to Nancy, I'm a loyal sailor. Nothing what I say is mechanically backed up. But sheesh... there's a point when something fits and this is it.
In post 3846, Radical Rat wrote:
Malakittens is present in both of our solves, and flipping her is likely to be very informative. Why will you not vote there while we figure out Elements when the PoE narrows?
No.
I've said I'll doom this crew before changing my vote.
That stands.
Even if I feel I'm right, that stands. Elements goes. Then we can discuss Killing Joke.
Enchant having died... well.... I never believed I'd say this...
But with Miller claim...
What you said about MalaKittens as, like, a traitor with killing power just slots well, in fact they might have made it difficult for scum?
Which explains maybe Elements' weird fake result on them, cos they weren't in a PT to conspire, so it was all guess work working around Gimli's claim, making Gimli trust Elements, creating more chaos and putting me, who never trusted Elements since..................................................
well.................................
since the very absolute start when they townlocked me in fact...................
So Gimli trusts elements, Eira suddenly hates Gimli and Killing Joke plays with that, while mala is 'cleared' and only you realize it's bullshit.................... with me gunning for gimli not mala cos enchant died........ when gimli already claimed, and it was all to clear Mala, while I thought it was to clear Gimli!
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sorry my mind wandered off
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No. I feel Mala will flip red, yes. But I know, I know, first off, that Elements flip will tell us exactly, exactly what they were doing at Killing Joke's.
Secondly, if I have to contend with both elements and nancy at the same time my sanity might just not last. Not being funny it's just sorta true.
Elements pretty much is so evasive and non-present that they never, ever draw sus.
Nancy just never won't give up. They're gonna stick with this, and that's one reason I really want this Elements flip: If they're not a roleblocker, they gotta be something?
And what they are, of course, makes Nancy very easy to sort even though I know they're scum: Easy to sort for the other crew.
Mala, in this solve, is the misguided traitor? Probably with no shot left, I mean, more than one shot is gonna be very scumsided?
So, Radical Rat, earlier I didn't want to change from Elements cos it was the only certainty I had.
Now I'm not gonna change off Elements cos it simply is the best vote and I'll have nothing less.
And I'm serious.
This isn't a good look, a decent thing from me, but I'm dead serious when I say I'm willing to walk the plank before changing my vote.
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Okay damn now I gotta sleep!
