HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[Bellaphant]

...what, whos counter claiming me?

[Bellaphant]

Oh, eira ...softed bosun? And i'm.... copying?? Which would be great scum play because?

O.0

Why did you make that post, eira?

[Elements]

Bella's role and claim are the definition of convenient

How? Had she not said anything at all, what would have been different?

All I know is that if you vote me, we lose.
I think one of Eira/Bella is the roleblocker.
My reasons for Eira being RBer are because I was roleblocked last night and Eira wanted to stop me checking them against someone.
Bella being roleblocker is if Eira is vanilla them mechanically that's the only things that makes sense to me.
Being roleblocked last night was very detrimental to me.

[Bellaphant]

You still haven't explained why I claimed the way I did if I'm town, Elly. Or... anything. You won't engage with me Ans now I'm scum?

[Elements]

???

I'm obv town Elly. This is just confirming you are scum

I've been burnt before because of claims, and so have you, so forgive me for being paranoid

[Radical Rat]

Bella's claim was just a scum play
Doing things scum wouldn't do is what scum tries to do no?

Sure, but scum still have goals. The things they do have reasons. What was Bella's? She wasn't in any serious danger. She didn't significantly affect the course of the day. At best, she bought some towncred, but that's because everything surrounding the claim makes sense for Town to do.

If we start reading Townie things as scummy because scum wants to look Townie, then we open up a whole mess and solving becomes impossible. Sometimes Townie things ARE done by scum, but the difference is in motivation. And I can't find any scum motivation in Bella's actions.

[Eiralox]

Oh, eira ...softed bosun? And i'm.... copying?? Which would be great scum play because?

O.0

Why did you make that post, eira?

Elements saying you're not boatswain, basically. And because I don't know when to shut up, I guess. And cos I was suspicious of your claim for the reasons Elements stated, but...... as i said, trust you, therefore trust 'Boatswain' more than 'Ship's Commissioner' and 'Admiral'

Also because my brain works in patterns and cos I just............. no idea in fact. It was relevant? In my mind? Or I'm trying to be clever?

in fact, I do need to start working now.

peace ya'll!

[Elements]

You still haven't explained why I claimed the way I did if I'm town, Elly. Or... anything. You won't engage with me Ans now I'm scum?

Mechanically to me, you or Eira have to be roleblocker. So I will consider both scenarios

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Elements

[Elements]

Bella's claim was just a scum play
Doing things scum wouldn't do is what scum tries to do no?

Sure, but scum still have goals. The things they do have reasons. What was Bella's? She wasn't in any serious danger. She didn't significantly affect the course of the day. At best, she bought some towncred, but that's because everything surrounding the claim makes sense for Town to do.

If we start reading Townie things as scummy because scum wants to look Townie, then we open up a whole mess and solving becomes impossible. Sometimes Townie things ARE done by scum, but the difference is in motivation. And I can't find any scum motivation in Bella's actions.

You're right.
It makes more sense for Eira to be the roleblocker and that's why I was blocked last night.

[Bellaphant]

Ok, but I'm asking you something specific, that you dodged yesterday as well. Where's the town motivation for not working it through?

[Elements]

Eira, Flea, Mala

[Elements]

Ok, but I'm asking you something specific, that you dodged yesterday as well. Where's the town motivation for not working it through?

Where's the town motivation for anything Eira has done yesterday or today except the last few pages?

[Elements]

Just vote me Bella and lose the game

[Bellaphant]

???

I'm talking to you.

You are basically self voting with this approach, you realise?

[Elements]

Well what else am I supposed to do?
I've got until flea and mala come online

[Elements]

Ok, but I'm asking you something specific, that you dodged yesterday as well. Where's the town motivation for not working it through?

Idk, what your motivation was. I haven't read through it. I agree it's more towny than scum and you're probably town but I have mechanically two options so I'm considering both. There's a reason I'm voting Eira and not you

[Bellaphant]

Posit an actual solve? 'one of Bella/eira but I'm refusing to engage critically with belle for...eeasons' doesn't feel v town motivated

I mean you ask what are you meant to do and I'm suggesting.. reading it.

Eira/flea/mala is your solve?

[Elements]

Yes, that is my solve

[Bellaphant]

Eira, I didn't know boatswain (my role) was bosun til I looked it up a few days ago. I thought it was just a secy boat dude

[Bellaphant]

You're counterclaiming Bella? Now?

No, Eira is saying he had that claim lined up and softed it
Then passed it to Bella when she needed it

But a second ago it was me And eira?

[Bellaphant]

@rat, this doesn't make sense right?

[Elements]

You're counterclaiming Bella? Now?

No, Eira is saying he had that claim lined up and softed it
Then passed it to Bella when she needed it

But a second ago it was me And eira?

My brain jumps around and I was frustrated and people somehow townreading Eira

[Elements]

@rat, this doesn't make sense right?

Just cut to the chase and vote me bella

[Elements]

And when have my reads ever been consistent