Election! | GAME OVER

[furtiveglance]

pagetop

[furtiveglance]

I have zero reads. Shall I try to get one now, in real time?

Can we show through experimentation that good mafia play is possible?

[meowth]

we are all waiting with bated breath

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i townread meowth because the avatar is too cute to be scum

[meowth]

it hasn't been confirmed that's not how shea picked roles

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my one weakness is cute animal avatars

[furtiveglance]

DECLARE:VANILLA TOWN

Slightly weird because we're called 'town' not 'vanilla town' in this...maybe this is dumb though

anyway enchant is probably scum this game

you said same thing in house of dragons when it was discussed if i should get cop

VOTE: Datisi

Never unvoting.

This is the basis for my strongest read so far, Enchant town

I was thinking TvT, maaaybe SvS but not TvS.

Really strange thought to have, definitely not how I usually think

Pooky's 6 player PR prevote felt quite towny to me.

ATM Datsai is winning my sherif vote by default.

GL any particular reason you decided to campaign against/with pooky instead of meowth?

I need to look at how the mechanics of this game works but I don't usually townread a mech strat

[furtiveglance]

we are all waiting with bated breath

why don't you do a read

[Bingle]

DECLARE:VANILLA TOWN

Town?

DECLARE: SHERIFF

owo whats this

No.

I pledge to run a clean campaign to become the mayor of this town.

I am asking for your votes in order to improve the beautiful splendor of our neighborhood.

Mafia will be ruthlessly hunted down.

I have a keen sense of SMELL.

Hm. I have a read on you, is it accurate?

Declare Treasurer

Yes.

am i misunderstanding or is board of elections just kind of useless

It is not useless, but it is low enough use that it is probably a trap.

i promise to townread everyone who votes for me for at least 36 business hours

That's like a year for you isn't it

Pocketed.

@Enchat I said "relatively" more useless

as we just saw in HoD scum sheriff was not a huge problem and was ultimately figured out when they were forced into giving questionable results and eliminated for information.

I don't think a cop shot is that valuable, I think securing a town treasurer and probably mayor/council member is more important than town sheriff. Datisi I'm also curious to hear why that was your choice especially given HoD

What?

i mean scum sheriff might also be able to like mess with future results somehow

i don't think we have any information on what scum powers would be

Hm.

i mean scum sheriff might also be able to like mess with future results somehow

i don't think we have any information on what scum powers would be

Aren't they listed?

Probably not scum theater. If one of these flips scum the other is probably town.

I don't think a cop shot is that valuable, I think securing a town treasurer and probably mayor/council member is more important than town sheriff. Datisi I'm also curious to hear why that was your choice especially given HoD

i feel like your perception of that game is coloured based on the fact you ultimately ended up winning, and you don't notice just how much damage a scum cop did to that game. robbed you out of 2 results (which are essentially 2 straight flips) (or was it 3? i don't remember), blocked you from yeeting scum, almost won the game alone if dannflor hadn't lurked out.

even if such mechanics aren't in play here, a cop in town hands is essentially an extra free flip every cycle (unless they get killed ig). i was honest at the start of HoD when i said that i think it's a massive loss for town if the cop falls into scum hands.

I think it's a matter of perspective, cause my point is that you did all that damage and yet town still was able to bloc together and win, it wasn't enough to carry your team. Presumably any of these roles in scum hands is going to be some degree of bad, but I think it's easier to contain the "bad" with a scum sheriff over the other roles I named. Especially since we have new elections the next day.

Like what's the best case for a town sheriff, a guilty that we trust and flip, right? Otherwise even a clear isn't going to be strictly confirmed info until the sheriff's alignment is resolved. It just doesn't strike me as my number one priority. Don't you think your team in HoD would have done better if you were King and not Cop?

VOTE: GL

I don't understand the predecessor language wrt mayor and council member.

I think it means D2 mayor won't be able to see what ability D1 mayor used nor will they be able to use it?

There are two valid ways to parse it: Either

A) Mayor has a certain number of abilities that can each be used once per game and will be removed from the Role PM after usage.
B) Mayor has a certain number of abilities, any one of which can be used each night. The new mayor will not receive any results or knowledge based on previous nights.

i thought it was public but nothing in the rules says its public however there is a section that says the elected players get a PT so if one of them is mafia then i guess everyone will get to know

Yeah, we can functionally assume scum will know who has what role even outside of that (and the fact that presumably some scum will campaign for roles) because keeping track of who is campaigning for what and how they're viewed is kind of the way scum decide nightkills normally. Our PRs are functionally public information even if they don't get published, which means trying to hide them is just going to make reading the thread more difficult. As such, checking people's vote record is a pretty shit use of our budget.

As an extension of this, we should be giving roles like Sheriff to people who themselves are scummy, because that way scum can't shoot an incredibly towny cop prospect and proverbially kill two witches with one Kansas farmhouse. Ideally, the Sheriff will be the 5th scummiest person in the thread.

[BloodB0t]

Slightly weird because we're called 'town' not 'vanilla town' in this...maybe this is dumb though

It is dumb.

But my plan was not to declare any real role at all, until I had the chance to declare Board of Election for pagetop right after someone called it useless.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will sheep whatever bingle says is the mechanically optimal way to play this setup

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hm. I have a read on you, is it accurate?

only if its town

[Bingle]

OH SNAP BINGLE WHATS UP I HAVENT SEEN YOU IN FOREVER

I offered to proofread a math textbook for someone and am currently being embarrassed by how little I remember about solving differential equations by hand. Also, I'm down to play in that game you invited me to, can I borrow your time machine?

[meowth]

we are all waiting with bated breath

why don't you do a read

i have a couple but don't see the point in sharing in this phase

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i still have nightmares about differential equations

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh snap meowth is town thank god cuz i wasnt going to have to heart to yeet that kitty cat

[furtiveglance]

we are all waiting with bated breath

why don't you do a read

i have a couple but don't see the point in sharing in this phase

oh snap meowth is town thank god cuz i wasnt going to have to heart to yeet that kitty cat

I don't townread meowth's reluctance to share reads now. I think it's a Lamist thought rather than a town one.

Pooky, is this the reason for your townread on meowth? Explain?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i still have nightmares about differential equations

diff eq is fun!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also i'm feeling a little under the weather

[Bingle]

I'm going to not campaign for any power roles.
I'd like the towniest of {LLD/Pooks/GL} to be Treasurer.
We should use the sheriff assignation as a pseudovig. I will almost certainly be voting Enchant for Sheriff.
I strongly lean towards no elimination D1 because the level of swing in the setup from the smalltown nature means there likely no extra killing roles and D1 is the best day to skip a lim.
It is possible that role information will change with day phases, so a disagreement between what the roles say isn't necessarily a 1v1.
We likely have enough funding to fully fund ~2 roles or reasonably fund ~3 roles. Those roles should be selected from JOAT/JOAT/COP/TRACKER.

Cakez is vaguely scummy, GL is very scummy, AD is probably town, Pooky still needs to commit to whether or not I'm traditionally able to read Bear, Bloodbot is towny.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bruh its been so long that i dont even remember if you know how to read me accurately

[Bingle]

shit. Well, pooky can be town for now.

[UNOwen]

Cakez is vaguely scummy, GL is very scummy, AD is probably town, Pooky still needs to commit to whether or not I'm traditionally able to read Bear, Bloodbot is towny.

Why is ActionDan prob town?

[furtiveglance]

Someone respond to my most recent posts other than Bloodbot agreeing they're dumb

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also i'm feeling a little under the weather

hope you feel better soon :3