Newbie 2111 - Know Your Skittles! (Game Over)

[Freedom]

VOTE: StD
It's the only wagon with two votes, hop on people

You mean the only one that is now at E-3?
On the other hand, I don't think that your move is inherently scummy.

[usesPython]

Could you provide examples of what you consider good scumhunting from StD and Elements when you get back?

I think I've clarified it well enough in my previous post but just in case.

From STD his progression in posts like 273, 275, 277, 314, 316, 333, 334, and 641

From Elements her progression in posts like 332, 427, 432, 438, 439, 458

Also while I'll definitely look into them more d2 for now UNVOTE: Black

[usesPython]

I'll need to redo 532 after 646 but for now I'm down to push Weuler with the expectation they'll flip scum or STD/Elements with the expectation that neither of them are that much likelier than average to flip scum but either of them flipping town generates a good amount of content for d2

VOTE: Weuler

[usesPython]

With d1 coming to a close and there being a 5/9 chance of there being either a Jailkeeper or Doctor in the game (Setups: A1, A2, B2, B3, C2) I might as well start speculating on the expected n1 nightkill.

The way I see it there's two different strategies scum can use for nightkills this game:

1. Kill all obvtown.
From what I can tell for most people here that list includes at least two of the following: Aureal, Black, usesPython. This would guarantee at least one obvtown in ELO and also risks the nightkill being stopped by a protective PR but means that scum would be able to blend in better in ELO and cause a miselim

2. Play for an Aureal/Black/Python/two scum ELO and attempt to sheep Black or Aureal to vote for me
This would require the two scum to be pushing each other without seeming scum vs scum. In that case it would create an argument for eliming me since a 2v3 is harder for town than a 1v2, while also letting them lean on my scummyness from d1. This would be pretty hard to pull off, realistically if this somehow happens the only scumteam I can see doing it at the moment is STD/Elements

If you are a protective PR here's my advice: Take a list of your obvtown and flip a coin/roll a 1d3 to pick who to be on any given night

[Elements]

Talking about night kills before they happen sets up unnecessary WIFOM

[Elements]

I don't want to lim Weuler today

[Elements]

I think everyone at some point has scumread Weuler and now it seems like a compromise wagon

[usesPython]

Talking about night kills before they happen sets up unnecessary WIFOM

Yeah but it also gives more information to any protective PR's, which given that this is a newbie game with multiple recent replacements that are still catching up might do more good than harm

[Elements]

It doesn't give PRs more info?
It gives them more WIFOM too

[usesPython]

It doesn't give PRs more info?
It gives them more WIFOM too

How so? If say Meg or Freedom (who are still catching up) is a protective PR then a quick rundown on likely nightkills leading to a failed nightkill is more valuable than any WIFOM generated from pointing out the obvious (though you do have a point that theory 2 generates unnecessary WIFOM).

[Elements]

They also don't know your alignment so you could be deliberately giving false information to lead them away from who you want to kill. You're also if town telling scum who you think any hypothetical protectives should target and therfore who they shouldn't kill

[Human]

This could also be an attempt to divert scum if there isn't a protective PR

[Human]

Anyway can't think of anyone other than weuler to vote so
VOTE: Weuler

[Elements]

^ exactly what I mean

[Elements]

Anyway can't think of anyone other than weuler to vote so
VOTE: Weuler

Why not StD or Freedom?

[Human]

StD doesn't seem scummy to me though freedom seems to be observing more than reading but I think you just scumread them because they scumread you

[usesPython]

Anyway can't think of anyone other than weuler to vote so
VOTE: Weuler

Why not StD or Freedom?

The consequences of 0 wagons. Anyways might as well play a bit crazy.

UNVOTE: Weuler
VOTE: StD

You have until 6 hours from the deadline to convince me you're town

[usesPython]

Also E-2

[Human]

Look there was a massive wagon earlier on weuler but it halted because we wanted time to talk now we have talked do we have any better reads now? I don't think so

[usesPython]

Look there was a massive wagon earlier on weuler but it halted because we wanted time to talk now we have talked do we have any better reads now? I don't think so

If today is a miselim, who do you think being miselimed would maximize the chances of town winning?

[Human]

Look there was a massive wagon earlier on weuler but it halted because we wanted time to talk now we have talked do we have any better reads now? I don't think so

If today is a miselim, who do you think being miselimed would maximize the chances of town winning?

I'm going to have to think and reread but StD is not our best bet

[Elements]

Why not, what's wrong with an StD lim?

[Human]

Other than you and this recent wagon there's been no other interaction if we wanted info we could just go for you

[Human]

Also Python Black and Elements have posted the most but Elements and python have had the most people interact with them until recently so by Python's logic logic they are actually one of the best elimination options

[usesPython]

Also Python Black and Elements have posted the most but Elements and python have had the most people interact with them until recently so by Python's logic logic they are actually one of the best elimination options

You might be surprised to hear this but I have no problems with getting miselimed as long as it increases my chances of winning the game. A miselim 100% confirms a person as town so me getting miselimed means everyone can trust with certainty that I believe in my reads