Mini Theme 2290: Open ChatGPT - Game Over

[Menalque]

I'm happy to lock biancospino in as town for now. The difference from Micro 1068 is night and day

how are you getting a night and day difference? I think his posts look broadly similar

[Not_Mafia]

VC 1.03

Grandpa Mo (0)-

KittyTacky (1)-

Dei Ex Machina

Morning Tweet (0)-

Dei Ex Machina (0)-

Defective Agency (1)-

imaginality

Doctor Drew (1)-

narrow parking

narrow parking (0)-

Titus (0)-

Porkens (0)-

Menalque (0)-

imaginalty (3)-

Defective Agency, biancospino, Doctor Drew

Bloodb0t (2)-

Morning Tweet, Titus

biancospino (0)-

Not Voting (5)-

GrandpaMo, KittyTacky, Porkens, Menalque, Bloodb0t

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2023-02-27 02:00:00)

- Feb 27th 02:00 GMT

[Menalque]

VOTE: imaginality

[Dei Ex Machina]

I'm happy to lock biancospino in as town for now. The difference from Micro 1068 is night and day

how are you getting a night and day difference? I think his posts look broadly similar

Night and day might be a slight exaggeration, but I think the difference in tone is pretty clear. Similar to what furtive pointed out, I’m finding him a lot more natural and genuine this game.

- Nyx

[Menalque]

Could you please show me any three posts that bianco has made this game that you think would not fit with his tone in 1068?

[Porkens]

GrandpaMo hasn’t posted or been prodded.

KittyTacky has mostly been fluffpoasting.

Morning Tweet has been mostly game-relevant in discussions about chatgpt and expressed some reads, but the content feels a bit “puffed up”

More later.

[BloodB0t]

Could you please show me any three posts that bianco has made this game that you think would not fit with his tone in 1068?

Is it just me or does this question kinda seem unfair?

[Porkens]

I don’t see what is unfair about it. Nyx claimed the difference was

night and day

pretty clear. Therefore, it should be pretty easy to give examples, no?

[BloodB0t]

I dunno I thought it was like trying to prove the negative and opens things up to being nitpicky and unproductive.

[BloodB0t]

Like it just seems more likely to steer into a direction that benefits scum than town.

[BloodB0t]

What do you mean about "puffed up" wrt morning tweet?

[Porkens]

I’m not sure what you mean. Are you saying it’s unimportant, distracting, or off topic?

As for morning tweet, Kinda like the points are grains of sand but the posts are boulders? Much ado about nothing? Not irrelevant but not substantial?

[BloodB0t]

Yeah okay I get what you mean about MT, just making sure.

As for Menal's Q, I just feel like it comes more from an angle of "I'm ready as scum to nitpick whatever answer is given". Hard to articulate. I'm getting scummy vibes in general from him anyways so I guess I'm looking at the question from a position of suspicion and that's coloring it.

[BloodB0t]

VOTE: Menalque

[narrow parking]

-snip-

This contribution feels +scum.

-Mr. G

how so

[narrow parking]

Unless maybe you're referring to narrow calling Kitty scummy for it specifically, which I'm undecided on.

[biancospino]

Porkens' gimmick is mildly anti-town imo, particularly if they keep it up after earlygame. I think it's only slightly scummy at this point tho.

bianco is town imo, on vibes.

this is lazy hunting imo what makes it --EV town

This contribution feels +scum.

-Mr. G

I'd guess MT was on your "lazy hunting" comment. I read it differently, but just to clarify, was it supposed to be a question perhaps?

[Dei Ex Machina]

The game is pretty dead huh? Nice to have a game with slightly longer deadlines for once, but I think we need guard against getting too complacent.

My vote on the hydra was rvs in that I didn't have any reason to vote them based on play (it was page 1!) but motivated in that I dislike playing with hydras. I just find them hard to read (also because I generally don't know the meta of the players in them) plus some of them post too much.

So I figure seeing how they react to a wagon on them could help with reading them plus given the choice between catching a scum solo player and a scum hydra I'd rather the latter.

Never heard of Doctor Drew or the running joke.

I don't see posting chatGPT answers as copying Porkens' gimmick in this particular game (if Porkens does that in other games then it would be if someone does it there).

I am also staggered Defective Agency thought I was being serious with that chatGPT post or in general (until now). I have a hard time believing they genuinely believed that. My vote stays.

How is pressuring Defective Agency going for you? Do you still want your vote there?

My point is it was a bit of a leap on your part to assume biancospino was trying to make you look like you were trying to 'discredit' Nyx given your back and forth with Nyx was about colour choices rather than anything substantive. And that if you really believed biancospino was trying to do that you would be focused on biancospino's scumminess rather than on how they're making you look. Whereas you just said it but didn't follow up further on it.

As I was typing up my response it popped into my head about them discrediting me, I do kinda realize that it was probably more them poking and prodding since it all came to be from me misreading Nyxs post. I got a bit angry about it initially, but let it go when I thought about it since I didn't think it was coming from a scum mindset.

But, one thing I don't understand is why just as you get heat on yourself you are trying to deflect and just trying to find someone to take the heat off of you.

I hardly think a couple of people questioning why I voted a hydra on page 1 is 'heat'. Also, for you to frame it as 'deflection' and imply it's scummy presupposes I'm scum. For me as town, it's just me trying to scumhunt and pointing out something I found suspect. I bet if I had instead just focused on the hydra stuff you'd've said I'm being defensive instead of scumhunting enough lol.

Does this exchange inform your read on Doctor Drew at all?

VOTE: Imaginality
I'm moving this as voting KT isn't really doing anything in the immediate, I assume KT will play whenever they'll play and maybe then there'll be a bit more to discuss. Mind you, Janus said they thought Imaginality didn't look too different from the previous game they were in, where they were Town, so I may have to change this again in <24 hours, but hopefully it'll do for now!

-Morta

[Dei Ex Machina]

Porkens' gimmick is mildly anti-town imo, particularly if they keep it up after earlygame. I think it's only slightly scummy at this point tho.

bianco is town imo, on vibes.

When you can, tell me a bit more about what pinged you town from bianco initially?

Could you please show me any three posts that bianco has made this game that you think would not fit with his tone in 1068?

Is it just me or does this question kinda seem unfair?

I don’t see what is unfair about it. Nyx claimed the difference was

night and day

pretty clear. Therefore, it should be pretty easy to give examples, no?

I dunno I thought it was like trying to prove the negative and opens things up to being nitpicky and unproductive.

Like it just seems more likely to steer into a direction that benefits scum than town.

@BloodB0t, what do you propose would have been a fair question or reaction from Menalque?

-Morta

[KittyTacky]

Porkens is basically RPing only more extremely bc he’s not thinking about the game he’s just parroting what the bot says to him

I'm not sure that it's true, it's quite plausible that he's trying to get the bot to say what he means it to by manipulating the prompt. In which case the bot would say things in line with Porkens' opinions.

Of course that's why I want Porkens to also post the prompts he's using, instead of just the bot's response

imo if he was doing this in good faith he's have included the prompts in the first place.

[KittyTacky]

Also sorry was busy and my friend had a medical emergency.

[Dei Ex Machina]

(Menalque, I'm sure Nyx will address your point when she's online!)

BloodB0t or Porkens, can you quote an MT post for me and explain why it looks puffed up and what's scummy about it in your own words?

I like the three headed hydra for town unless someone tells me that Alianna is a very good scumplayer who I’m underestimating, I’m reading the hydra more off her than the others

I also find this pretty intriguing, what came across as towny in Nyx/Alianna's posting?

-Morta

[KittyTacky]

Porkens response to accusations is scummy but I'm not gonna rehash what Titus said.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Porkens

[Dei Ex Machina]

Speak of the devil ( )

Porkens is basically RPing only more extremely bc he’s not thinking about the game he’s just parroting what the bot says to him

I'm not sure that it's true, it's quite plausible that he's trying to get the bot to say what he means it to by manipulating the prompt. In which case the bot would say things in line with Porkens' opinions.

Of course that's why I want Porkens to also post the prompts he's using, instead of just the bot's response

imo if he was doing this in good faith he's have included the prompts in the first place.

The choice to include / not include the prompts seems pretty arbitrary? What makes you think so?
-Morta