Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Asri Teroka]

Ah yes this one rememers seeing something about stags.

[Asri Teroka]

Eh, good night or day to all.

[Black]

What was CSF's flavors just for funsies?

[Klick]

Klick can you summarise your PT a bit?

Doesn't have to be post by post, but the major points of discussion would be good

There was nothing at all of substance until ActionDan replaced in, except I made a comment that I sucked at using neighbourhoods when I didn't have any townreads within them
Then ActionDan came in and complained that the neighbourhood had no activity and got tumbleweed in response
Then a couple of days later Dan came in and complained that the game didn't feel like Mafia and people were just scumreading him and not engaging with him, and also complained that there was too much off topic stuff going on (on the night when we all spammed off topic stuff!)

Then Dan died and I started up conversation with Cakez because I had a townread on him
I told him I thought he was town and asked him to claim but he just kind of ignored my question
I said that I thought I might die N1
I claimed to him hoping it would encourage him to claim back. And then there are a few posts of me looking at reactions to 724 trying to decide if anyone's reaction to me suddenly claiming the neighbourhood showed TMI (I disliked Firebringer's reaction and thought redFF, Alisae, and petapan's reactions looked towny)
I shitposted about how technically my first-post callout of Firebringer/redFF/Lycanfire could have been 3 for 3
I posted my PoE at the time and told Cakez that I was concerned about the fact that I couldn't definitively clear Morning Tweet when I felt like I should be able to if Tweet were town
Cakez questioned why I thought I would be killed. He also encouraged my MT suspicion, saying I might be onto something with feeling like she should be town to me by now.
I then said I thought some of MT's posting irt her Lycan and Dan push looked town to me and my doubt was gone (it has since resurfaced as you can see in present day)
I posted a reads list and gave petapan a hesitant town lean for having reads I liked in 1070

Then D2 starts and about half a day in I more directly ask him to claim, while also expressing a townread on him
He responds with him commuter claim thing
He gives a townread on petapan saying peta!scum would have just gotten him eliminated D1

And Cakez got eliminated after that and I used the thread as a Notes PT last night

[Thestatusquo]

What was CSF's flavors just for funsies?

CSFs whole role PM has been flipped? This feels like busy work.

[Firebringer]

Cat Scratch flavor was Dirty Cat

[Black]

What was CSF's flavors just for funsies?

CSFs whole role PM has been flipped? This feels like busy work.

I guess I was more wondering what information you received, whether it's the full 1-2 sentence flavor or just a few words

[fireisredsir]

he probably received the whole role card!

[Firebringer]

he probably received the whole role card!

OP Flavor cop tbh

[Black]

Just a Mafia Rolecop huh. Yeah probably

[Black]

Now I feel like TSQ knows something we don't know <_<

[Klick]

Klick

Can you tell this one how you feel on Gimli and furtiveglance?

Furtive is hard hard town. The traitor theory was fun to think about but realistically furtive is doing everything I would expect town!furtive to do and nothing I would expect scum!furtive to do.

I think Gimli is one of the few slots left with scum potential. Do I think he's particularly likely scum? Not really. But I'm not shut off to the possibility like I am with most other players in this game.

Wondering your thoughts on if you think Gimli's role could possibly be a mafia role? I mean yeah of course it is possible but do you think it is likely?

I don't feel confident making an assessment on that considering the other wacky possibilities this game has already presented
I have it at 'possible' and that's as far as I'm willing to dive into that rabbit hole

[Firebringer]

reads right now-
Uber Town: Ari, Alisae
Strong Town: Black, Klick, MT
Weak Town: Shea, Furtive, CatScratch, Petapan
Null : Gimli, Asri, Cakez, fireisredsir

I am like not at scum on anyone shockingly.
I guess Gimli and Asri because of how they are about the wagon but not positive on just wrong town? Asri less certain as petapan pointed out the defense was shallow at best.

i guess ill update this:

Uber Confirmed Town: Ari, Alisae, Furtive, Petapan, Klick
Strong Almost Confirmed Town: Black, MT, Gimli
Weak Town: Redff, Asri
Nullish: Fireisredsir
Scum: Mistyx [don't expect me to ever explain it though alisae]

I still kind of feel Shea is town but maybe im stupid and just hedging here so i can tell everyone i can read Shea better than anyone. Though if he actually flips scum i can never use that argument in the future. Or at least not without being a dishonest actor. I am putting too much pressure on myself on reading shea right.

[redFF]

oh also i have another guilty - tsq visited csf

I am but a humble stag
I escort thee across the hollowlands

I'm a flavor cop. 4 shot. I did target CSF last night but i can confirm my first target n1.

Alright, I'm back, I targeted both alisae and CSF because they're in the middle of my read pool and strong players, not really much thought to it besides that.

the order of events here is
aristeia claims a guilty on TSQ
Alisae claims role+flavor out of basically nowhere (wanting to encourage the MC i guess)
TSQ claims flavor cop, but with alisae having already claimed their flavor there's no way for TSQ to confirm his role

[Klick]

Klick

Can you tell this one how you feel on Gimli and furtiveglance?

Furtive is hard hard town. The traitor theory was fun to think about but realistically furtive is doing everything I would expect town!furtive to do and nothing I would expect scum!furtive to do.

I think Gimli is one of the few slots left with scum potential. Do I think he's particularly likely scum? Not really. But I'm not shut off to the possibility like I am with most other players in this game.

Thank you so much!

Thus one got lost on furtive real bad just now but isn't trusting Gimli anymore, mostly cos of associatives with Alisae... pretty flimsy at this point but this one notes what they note *shrug*

For what it's worth, I do also have Alisae as really hard town. I find myself thinking very similarly to e in a lot of ways at the moment. If you value my thoughts here then that's one I'd very much appreciate you taking into consideration.

[Firebringer]

i would kind of like Ari to tracker fireR for me.
She should probably announce who she is tracking i think

[Black]

I still kind of feel Shea is town but maybe im stupid and just hedging here so i can tell everyone i can read Shea better than anyone. Though if he actually flips scum i can never use that argument in the future. Or at least not without being a dishonest actor. I am putting too much pressure on myself on reading shea right.

No pressure bud. We should just trust Ari and then deal with the consequences after. If you suck at reading Shea then at least he's dead scum right?

[fireisredsir]

oh also i have another guilty - tsq visited csf

I am but a humble stag
I escort thee across the hollowlands

I'm a flavor cop. 4 shot. I did target CSF last night but i can confirm my first target n1.

Alright, I'm back, I targeted both alisae and CSF because they're in the middle of my read pool and strong players, not really much thought to it besides that.

the order of events here is
aristeia claims a guilty on TSQ
Alisae claims role+flavor out of basically nowhere (wanting to encourage the MC i guess)
TSQ claims flavor cop, but with alisae having already claimed their flavor there's no way for TSQ to confirm his role

is your argument that they're scum together? why would alisae not just tell shea the flavor in the pt and then he is able to confirm his role?

[Black]

i would kind of like Ari to tracker fireR for me.
She should probably announce who she is tracking i think

What is the purpose of leading the tracker exactly?

[Firebringer]

I still kind of feel Shea is town but maybe im stupid and just hedging here so i can tell everyone i can read Shea better than anyone. Though if he actually flips scum i can never use that argument in the future. Or at least not without being a dishonest actor. I am putting too much pressure on myself on reading shea right.

No pressure bud. We should just trust Ari and then deal with the consequences after. If you suck at reading Shea then at least he's dead scum right?

I HAVE YET TO READ HIM WRONG BEFORE THIS THOUGH

[Firebringer]

i would kind of like Ari to tracker fireR for me.
She should probably announce who she is tracking i think

What is the purpose of leading the tracker exactly?

so if she dies we know who her last target was?
Also to ensure her actions doesn't fuck up any other investigative like mine.

[Black]

I still kind of feel Shea is town but maybe im stupid and just hedging here so i can tell everyone i can read Shea better than anyone. Though if he actually flips scum i can never use that argument in the future. Or at least not without being a dishonest actor. I am putting too much pressure on myself on reading shea right.

No pressure bud. We should just trust Ari and then deal with the consequences after. If you suck at reading Shea then at least he's dead scum right?

I HAVE YET TO READ HIM WRONG BEFORE THIS THOUGH

First time for everything bud

[redFF]

oh also i have another guilty - tsq visited csf

I am but a humble stag
I escort thee across the hollowlands

I'm a flavor cop. 4 shot. I did target CSF last night but i can confirm my first target n1.

Alright, I'm back, I targeted both alisae and CSF because they're in the middle of my read pool and strong players, not really much thought to it besides that.

the order of events here is
aristeia claims a guilty on TSQ
Alisae claims role+flavor out of basically nowhere (wanting to encourage the MC i guess)
TSQ claims flavor cop, but with alisae having already claimed their flavor there's no way for TSQ to confirm his role

is your argument that they're scum together? why would alisae not just tell shea the flavor in the pt and then he is able to confirm his role?

i just summarized the order of events here. shea gets limmed regardless here so that wouldn't be a wise strategy for them if they were both scum.

[Thestatusquo]

I still kind of feel Shea is town but maybe im stupid and just hedging here so i can tell everyone i can read Shea better than anyone. Though if he actually flips scum i can never use that argument in the future. Or at least not without being a dishonest actor. I am putting too much pressure on myself on reading shea right.

No pressure bud. We should just trust Ari and then deal with the consequences after. If you suck at reading Shea then at least he's dead scum right?

I HAVE YET TO READ HIM WRONG BEFORE THIS THOUGH

That's just objectively false.

[Klick]

Peta conftown
Ari conftown
Furtive conftown
Firebringer essentially conftown due to claiming a role that never ever endgames

Both Ari and Firebringer are essentially cops
The game is all but over